When Reggie, the president of Nintendo of America, was asked yesterday about how he felt the NX stacks up against the new Xbox and Playstation consoles, he responded in an expected (but still disappointing) way.

"You know for us, it’s not about specs, it’s not about teraflops, it’s not about the horsepower of a particular system. For us it’s about content. Nintendo is a content focused company. We create entertainment that makes people smile so for us, we’re focused on bringing our best entertainment to the Wii U as well as the NX in the future.

For us whatever Microsoft and Sony are doing in terms of talking about new systems, that’s for them to fight out in that red ocean. For us, we want to make sure we're bringing our best content forward and right now the reaction to Zelda has been more than we could have ever imagined."

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Source: Bloomberg.com

 

[Xzi]

Xbox One S just officially made the Shield TV irrelevant

Lol no, not unless it costs $150. From the pictures it still appears at least twice as large, too.

 

[codezer0]

Lol no, not unless it costs $150. From the pictures it still appears at least twice as large, too.

500GB shield TV is $299, same as the Xbox One. And the One S can do 4K video and Plex, and current triple-A games, while the most recent stuff that the Shield has access to are Android games (pay-to-win scum) and past-gen ports - good ports, true, but still last-gen stuff.

 

[GBAFail]

Lol no, not unless it costs $150. From the pictures it still appears at least twice as large, too.

People like consoles because they have a unified online system that works in all games, you can get all the games from one online store, you can go to Walmart/Target/GameStop and they'll likely have the game you're looking for, disc games won't have online only DRM (unless it's an mmo or something), and you don't have to worry about drivers or anything like that. Unless these problems are fixed, you won't be able to convert most console players to PC.

 

[Xzi]

People like consoles because they have a unified online system that works in all games, you can get all the games from one online store, you can go to Walmart/Target/GameStop and they'll likely have the game you're looking for, disc games won't have online only DRM (unless it's an mmo or something), and you don't have to worry about drivers or anything like that. Unless these problems are fixed, you won't be able to convert most console players to PC.

Lol it's an online system split into three artificially, it's not unified. You can get all your games from one online store on PC too and backwards compatibility all the way from the beginning of gaming. Sure you can go get gouged for a physical disc but even console players buy primarily online now.

Consoles are just as esoteric as PCs these days. You install apps to them, browse the web with them, play music and stream video. The gap between the two platforms is incredibly narrow. I don't care about converting anyone TBH, if they want to pay more fees and higher game costs for a graphically inferior experience, that's their prerogative. The point I've been trying to make from the beginning is that specs don't matter in console land because even "high-end" consoles don't kick out half the performance of a decent gaming PC, so there's no point in clawing at each other's throats for a distant second place.

 

[Viri93]

It doesn't matter that you only care about the content if third party developers will abandon ship before the initial cerimony.

 

[Foxi4]

PC enthusiasts have been prophesizing that it's "time to switch" for as long as I can remember and it still hasn't happened. If anything, with HDMI, HTPC's, wireless keyboards, mice and controllers around, the previous console gen was the biggest and longest yet. People don't want to switch from their standardized, optimized systems in favour of PC's they've cobbled together, even if they're better. Steam Machines removed the building step out of the equation and they're still not switching, despite having pre-builds around. At this point, I think it's safe to say that consoles are here to stay. Nobody cares that your HTPC outperforms a PS4, just like nobody cares that your modified Honda Civic goes faster than a stock BMW, because when you can afford being in the BMW crowd, Steam Sales or performance are not going to tide you over. Consoles are hardware designed for one purpose only and people are happy with that - they want the sit-down-and-play experience and consoles give them just that. It doesn't even matter if they're 4K or not, they just have to be adequate and that's enough.

 

[MrJason005]

At this point, I think it's safe to say that consoles are here to stay.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

PC enthusiasts have been prophesizing that it's "time to switch" for as long as I can remember and it still hasn't happened. If anything, with HDMI, HTPC's, wireless keyboards, mice and controllers around, the previous console gen was the biggest and longest yet. People don't want to switch from their standardized, optimized systems in favour of PC's they've cobbled together, even if they're better. Steam Machines removed the building step out of the equation and they're still not switching, despite having pre-builds around. At this point, I think it's safe to say that consoles are here to stay. Nobody cares that your HTPC outperforms a PS4, just like nobody cares that your modified Honda Civic goes faster than a stock BMW, because when you can afford being in the BMW crowd, Steam Sales or performance are not going to tide you over. Consoles are hardware designed for one purpose only and people are happy with that - they want the sit-down-and-play experience and consoles give them just that. It doesn't even matter if they're 4K or not, they just have to be adequate and that's enough.

Companies are starting to treat consoles more like PCs even though there's clearly a limitation and so to go over that restriction, they just release a newer version of it which is precisely Xbox One Slim / Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Neo. It also won't be long before games become a service in itself just how Netflix handles it and sure, there'll be people who'll complain but most of them have access to the internet and then suck it up to it so that they can continue playing.

The current console generation is by far the worst for me. PS4 has a bit too much of god damn last-gen remasters, Xbox One didn't live up to the success of the 360 and the Wii U was supposed to be aimed at hardcore gamers + with great third party support but Nintendo failed hard.

 

[MrJason005]

Companies are starting to treat consoles more like PCs even though there's clearly a limitation and so to go over that restriction, they just release a newer version of it which is precisely Xbox One Slim / Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Neo. It also won't be long before games become a service in itself just how Netflix handles it and sure, there'll be people who'll complain but most of them have access to the internet and then suck it up to it so that they can continue playing.

The current console generation is by far the worst for me. PS4 has a bit too much of god damn last-gen remasters, Xbox One didn't live up to the success of the 360 and the Wii U was supposed to be aimed at hardcore gamers + with great third party support but Nintendo failed hard.

Then I believe you'll be all over this video (and its pessimistic/cynical creator):

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Then I believe you'll be all over this video (and its pessimistic/cynical creator):

That guy made a lot of great points. Nowadays I just use the Wii U as a Mario Kart 8 box because there's nothing else I'm interested playing as I'm done with the rest.. just great.

 

[Foxi4]

Companies are starting to treat consoles more like PCs even though there's clearly a limitation and so to go over that restriction, they just release a newer version of it which is precisely Xbox One Slim / Xbox Scorpio and PS4 Neo. It also won't be long before games become a service in itself just how Netflix handles it and sure, there'll be people who'll complain but most of them have access to the internet and then suck it up to it so that they can continue playing.

The current console generation is by far the worst for me. PS4 has a bit too much of god damn last-gen remasters, Xbox One didn't live up to the success of the 360 and the Wii U was supposed to be aimed at hardcore gamers + with great third party support but Nintendo failed hard.

Too many PS4 remasters? Excluding multiplatform ones, I can name four off the top of my head - The Last of Us, Ratchet & Clank Collection, God of War Collection and Uncharted Collection. As for upgrades mid-gen, people have been buying upgrades quite happily throughout last gen just for larger HDD's - remember that PS3's initially came with 60GB for the top range models, 360'ies were the same, the cheapest systems had 20GB or no HDD at all. At least this time around you might get better performance at the same time, but you're right, it does blur the lines between "revision" and "successor". Time frame-wise it checks out fine though - the PS4 and the XBO were out for three years, we're now hearing rumours of successors, mostly confirmed at this point. Next year we'll probably see the systems showcased and 2 years from now they'll be out. Add a 2 year adaptation period for people to switch and it comes to about 7 years of service - that's fine.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Too many PS4 remasters? Excluding multiplatform ones, I can name four off the top of my head - The Last of Us, Ratchet & Clank Collection, God of War Collection and Uncharted Collection.

1. God of War III: Remastered
2. The Last of Us: Remastered
3. Valkyria Chronicles: Remastered - Europa Edition
4. Gravity Rush: Remastered
5. Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
6. Kingdom Hearts: HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue
7. Grim Fandango: Remastered
8. Tearway Unfolded

Also on other platforms:

1. Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, XO)
2. Saints Row IV: Re-Elected (PS4, XO)
3. Metro Redux (PS4, XO)
4. Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin (PS4, XO)
5. Borderlands: The Handsome Collection (PS4, XO)
6. Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition (PS4, XO)
7. Batman: Return to Arkham (PS4, XO)
8. Resident Evil: Origins Collection (PS4, PC, XO)
9. Final Fantasy X/X-2: Remastered (PS3, PS4, PSV)
10. Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition (PS4, PC, XO)
11. Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition (PS4, XO)
12. Legend of Kay: Anniversary Edition (PS4, PC, Wii U)

There's obviously more remastered games which I'm leaving out 'cause this is more than enough for the point I'm trying to make which is, these games were already in HD before (except for Legend of Kay that no one cares about) so re-remastering them HD just goes to show how lazy companies and devs have gotten. Why develop new games? The sheep will buy the same old games remastered games anyway!

Yes, I scratched out that Ratchet & Clank game because it's not a remaster, it's an actual new game based on the old R&C gameplay while the story's from the 2016 disastrous R&C film.

Add a 2 year adaptation period for people to switch and it comes to about 7 years of service - that's fine.

And that's a problem. When you're making better versions available, i.e., something more than just a bigger HDD then it'll make the customerbase unbalanced 'cause Tommy has a gen1 model, Timmy has a gen2 model and Tammy has a gen3 model. All of which could be considered superior and inferior in their own ways.

Just screw it. This is becoming PCs which the consumers can't swap around its hardware (except for the HDD) so they're always forced to buy the newer version if they want a better edition and they just can't swap it even though they paid $400-500 for it at launch.

 

[Foxi4]

You're thinking of Ratchet & Clank, I'm talking about the HD Collection - two different products. Anywho, Sony has no influence on third-parties releasing remastered games, so blaming them for Grim Fandango HD or Valkyria Chronicles Remastered is a bit of a stretch - they are only responsible for their own re-releases.

 

[tony_2018]

First party content can only carry you so far, as the Wii U proved. All Nintendo has to do is to make a console on par with the current competitors, so that third party companies can release games across the big 3 platforms easily. From there on out, Nintendo just has to focus on fixing it's online functions/friend system/etc and they would be golden. Ridiculous.

I agree with this, it doesn't have to outperform Sony or MS, just be around there range. But I can see where this will lead to, "why spend this much for a Nin when I can pay a little more for *insert next gaming machine*, since the games I want to play are cross-platformed". Everyone nowadays would want the best bang for their buck and it will be even harder for Nin to justify why they should get there systems.

Shit Nin could be losing out to the portable gaming consoles because smartphones are capable of play games now and are starting to come out with some pretty good specs.

 

[WooHyun]

DON'T THEY KNOW THAT 3RD PARTIES WILL RELEASE CONTENT IF SPEC IS GOOD ENOUGH? Don't they know they always lacked content since Wii because of that 'specs'? Awesome. So now I have to buy 2 consoles to play Super Mario and Kingdom Hearts.

 

[GBAFail]

Lol it's an online system split into three artificially, it's not unified. You can get all your games from one online store on PC too and backwards compatibility all the way from the beginning of gaming. Sure you can go get gouged for a physical disc but even console players buy primarily online now.

Consoles are just as esoteric as PCs these days. You install apps to them, browse the web with them, play music and stream video. The gap between the two platforms is incredibly narrow. I don't care about converting anyone TBH, if they want to pay more fees and higher game costs for a graphically inferior experience, that's their prerogative. The point I've been trying to make from the beginning is that specs don't matter in console land because even "high-end" consoles don't kick out half the performance of a decent gaming PC, so there's no point in clawing at each other's throats for a distant second place.

I meant every game on each system uses the same online system (XBL/PSN/NN). Not shit like gfwl/steam/origin and the games that say fuck it and use their own.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

I meant every game on each system uses the same online system (XBL/PSN/NN). Not shit like gfwl/steam/origin and the games that say fuck it and use their own.

The problem isn't with Steam but Origins, Uplay, Windows Store and the rest who try to compete with them and in doing so they divide the customers into using their own services. Thank god Microsoft's going to start selling Xbox games on Steam because the Windows Store is just a total chaotic mess.

 

[GBAFail]

The problem isn't with Steam but Origins, Uplay, Windows Store and the rest who try to compete with them and in doing so they divide the customers into using their own services. Thank god Microsoft's going to start selling Xbox games on Steam because the Windows Store is just a total chaotic mess.

They'll probably still use XBL even if they release it on steam.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

They'll probably still use XBL even if they release it on steam.

That makes sense because the rest use Xbox LIVE too.

 

[Bladexdsl]

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