Nintendo selling cut content from Fantasy Life as DLC

[KingVamp]

So, this Dlc was Dlc in the first place? Other than that, this game has everything from Japan version and this may not even be Nintendo decision?

 

[GameWinner]

So, this Dlc was Dlc in the first place? Other than that, this game has everything from Japan version and this may not even be Nintendo decision?

The content was included with Fantasy Life Link, the title the western version is based off of. Nintendo decided to remove that content that was already in the original Japanese version, Origin Island, and release it as DLC.

 

[KingVamp]

We get everything from Fantasy Life which was a full game and online. They left off Origin Island which was extra to begin with and kept it as dlc.

The problem I'm having is, that they are making it seem like we aren't getting a full game when all they are doing is keeping dlc as dlc.

Seems like a exaggeration. Neogaf has a better title.

 

[GameWinner]

Online content and Origin Island were added in the Link expansion version. We, in the west, are getting everything included in the Link version minus Origin Island, content Nintendo is cutting.
When Nintendo published Bravely Default in the west they included everything from the For The Sequel expansion but for some reason they are cutting content to sell as DLC in this game.

 

[Gahars]

We get everything from Fantasy Life which was a full game and online.

That'd be great if they were porting over Fantasy Life. They're not, they're porting over Fantasy Life Link, removing content and charging customers for it. That's bad.

Guys, you can like Nintendo without thanking them for fucking you over. It's okay, really, you're not going to hurt their feelings. They're a big company, they can take the criticism.

 

[Taleweaver]

I'm mostly sad by the low quality of the news source. Not only do we have people debating who is responsible for the situation, but going by machomuu's post, it's not even really cutting something out either. If the original game and link were different, getting the original and a part of link (basically everything but that island) shouldn't be a bad deal. Instead, however, with the wording of the source, it suggests that the West gets screwed in favor of Japan.

...and I don't know why I'm posting this. I normally can't be bothered in the slightest on these sorts of games. I don't want to miss out on some nice, juicy scandal...but can't really say if that is what is going on here.

 

[CompassNorth]

SCUMTENDO 2 DAYS IN A ROW.

 

[BrightNeko]

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/29/fantasy-life-expansion-pack-content-confirmed-west/
Origin island is DLC, it was DLC for the original game. Just because the version we are getting is based on link does not mean we are getting all of link's features. That is why nintendo and level 5 both have been saying "based". This is not a case of removal this is probably a case of a game of this size being in translation well before its +DLC edition was ever put out.

That said is this OK? It really seems more like a gray thing to me than an out right "Oh they didn't give us they special thing!" doesn't help we don't know which party decided the move. An this game is kind of a risk for nintendo in the first place.

 

[machomuu]

That'd be great if they were porting over Fantasy Life. They're not, they're porting over Fantasy Life Link, removing content and charging customers for it. That's bad.

Guys, you can like Nintendo without thanking them for fucking you over. It's okay, really, you're not going to hurt their feelings. They're a big company, they can take the criticism.

Though the more I look up of this, the more I find that this really wouldn't have been trouble at all had they just announced that we were getting Fantasy Life with online instead of Fantasy Life Link.

Sure, it'd still be pretty scummy, but I doubt people would be as pissed if they knew that they were getting the original version with online than if they were getting a game with content intentionally cut out. Especially considering that this makes it difficult to tell whether the other Link additions are included in the game or with Origin Island.

 

[Hells Malice]

It's kinda funny how long it takes Nintendo to figure out things that have been around in the industry for years, and then openly with absolutely no discretion, exploit that thing.

Inb4 $30/mo Nintendo Gold online subscription required for online play

 

[GamerzHell9137]

Well its not their first time to do this.

*cough*Mario Gold 3DS*cough* ;O;

 

[DiscostewSM]

Well its not their first time to do this.

*cough*Mario Gold 3DS*cough* ;O;

For NA at least, the cost of the base game was $10 less.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

For NA at least, the cost of the base game was $10 less.

Atm the game costs 28 pounds on Amazon and the season pack costs 11 pounds which is 39 pounds in the end and that's 65 $
Most of the times 3DS games cost 30 pounds and the less popular are 25ish.

Don't like the " cut the content before release and set as DLC " thing.

 

[Steena]

For NA at least, the cost of the base game was $10 less.

$10 less for the base game, $15 of DLC, some of which was ready on day-one. All the DLC plan was entirely laid out months before release in details, which makes you think some of that too, if not all, was already done. After all, it's just fucking maps for a golf game, no way those would need months of development, it was just finished content, given delayed/episodic release.

It's a good move, isn't it? Make people believe your game is cheaper, take out the content, add competitive "DLC" pricing ("50% of the content for just $15??? you'd be STUPID not go get it!!!") to make the overall package more costy.

At the end of the day: mario golf comes attached with an additional $5 tax on it compared to the other 3DS titles. While people hail nintendo for making the game cheaper.

 

[DiscostewSM]

$10 less for the base game, $15 of DLC, some of which was ready on day-one. All the DLC plan was entirely laid out months before release in details, which makes you think some of that too, if not all, was already done. After all, it's just fucking maps for a golf game, no way those would need months of development, it was just finished content, given delayed/episodic release.

It's a good move, isn't it? Make people believe your game is cheaper, take out the content, add competitive "DLC" pricing ("50% of the content for just $15??? you'd be STUPID not go get it!!!") to make the overall package more costy.

At the end of the day: mario golf comes attached with an additional $5 tax on it compared to the other 3DS titles. While people hail nintendo for making the game cheaper.

*pic*

But it's something you're not forced to get. Did everyone who bought it for $30 have to get all the DLC? By getting enough packs to make the total cost $40, how does it pan out in content vs other games that come out at $40 with no DLC purchases?

 

[Steena]

But it's something you're not forced to get. Did everyone who bought it for $30 have to get all the DLC? By getting enough packs to make the total cost $40, how does it pan out in content vs other games that come out at $40 with no DLC purchases?

Pretty badly, as every mario golf. You can't really compare Mario Golf with, say, Pokemon, in terms of what was developed. Even if you consider the entire DLC to make the game cost $45, it's hard to think how could the development for Mario Golf 3DS (with DLC) would be comparable to Pokemon gen 6, where gamefreak had to model 7xx something 3d models from scratch, and make 4 animation sets for each of them (idle, physical move, special move, damage taken, possibly there some other unique animations here and there, too). Come up with extensive dialogue, balance progression throughout (breeding, all those fucking items, rebalance the whole singleplayer to fetus mode, down from easy mode), netcode, multiplayer rebalance (of course the pokemon quest is a joke in itself, but I'm saying that it's still something more compared to mario golf, and it still required people working behind it, spellcheck more stuff, make sure there is a continuity, etc)

But this is really another issue of its own. Games for the same system all have a similar price range, but they clearly have HUGE different effort put on them. This is very unfair for certain types of games. I never agreed with that.

As for the "you're not FORCED to get it" argument, let's not go there, these are videogames, you don't have to play any game to survive. Does that mean all games are equally shit and we call it a day? Of course content for a luxury commodity will get judged in terms of its worth in a spoiled first-world scenario, be it optional or not. In terms of the DLC pricing, yes, you kind of have to get it if you got the base game. It's immensely cost/effective. The issue is, some if not all of that DLC was already made. And this is exactly why the pricing was cost/effective. Because they could afford to make less profit on cut content, as any profit you make that way is extra profit.

Are there really people who enjoy MG who would get the new game but not the DLC? It may possibly be the best priced "DLC" I've ever seen.

 

[Snailface]

The content was included with Fantasy Life Link, the title the western version is based off of. Nintendo decided to remove that content that was already in the original Japanese version, Origin Island, and release it as DLC.

Please show me a NA or European Nintendo press release that reveals the western Fantasy Life is "Based on Fantasy Life Link". It's not true -- its a complete fabrication by the shitty blog that reported it. Western gamers are getting the same deal as the Japanese for Fantasy Life.

 

[GameWinner]

Please show me a NA or European Nintendo press release that reveals the western Fantasy Life is "Based on Fantasy Life Link". It's not true -- its a complete fabrication by the shitty blog that reported it. Western gamers are getting the same deal as the Japanese for Fantasy Life.

http://www.siliconera.com/all/2014-08-29-fantasy-life-expansion-pack-content-confirmed-west#1

Sure.

 

[MegaAce™]

http://www.siliconera.com/all/2014-08-29-fantasy-life-expansion-pack-content-confirmed-west#1

Sure.

The link's dead somehow.

 

[machomuu]

The link's dead somehow.

Got it:

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/29/fantasy-life-expansion-pack-content-confirmed-west/

The link's actually already been posted two other times on this page.