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I can ignore social features, also if porting is like photocopying then three times is when the nice/amusing deformities start setting in but before it all turns into a garbled mess.
 

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To be fair though, Vita ports aren't 14-year-old games that only stood the test of time because they're stiff with rigor mortis at this point. :tpi:

unlike with the $ony Vista, at least it took 14 year old to get rigor mortis. not 3 years old.

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Hello boys and girls, time for yet another Truth Bomb delivered straight to your door by none other than your favourite host - me. If I am not your favourite host, you need to re-evaluate your priorities in life. Moving on!

Truth Bomb #3: All your consoles are just cheap substitutes of a gaming PC. You might not like it, but it's true. If your console does something you find amazing, if there's a feature that gives you a boner of steel, PC did it first and chances are that it did that thing ten times better.

Argue as much as you'd like, the truth of the matter is that consoles entered the market for one reason and one reason only - to become a cheaper and simpler alternative to expensive full-scale computers - this was true in the 70'ies and it remains true today. Sure, the line between PC's and consoles is getting thinner and fainter with each new generation, but that's completely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

Consoles lure you into a false conviction that your gaming experience is unique and superior to anything found elsewhere - wrong. It's not "different", it's just streamlined in one way or another. There's differences between consoles, sure, but the one fact that remains unshaken is that a good PC does everything all your consoles do and more. A PC will do anything you equip it to do, a console is restricted to its function set with little to no possibilities of expansion and most certainly no possibility of going the extra mile beyond what the designers wished for the system to do (without the use of homebrew, which is frowned upon by the designers to begin with, so I don't treat it as an argument here).

There's also the problem of console-exclusive titles. Ah, yes - what better way to convince players that your video game system is better than another one than by releasing a game that's only available on yours? Except it isn't good at all. Here I often use the toilet roll analogy - if you take an ordinary roll of toilet paper and write a poem on it, does the quality of the paper increase in any way? Does it turn into a roll of high-quality parchment? Will it at least wipe your behind any better than before? No. No, it will not. It's the same piece of bog roll you had before, the paper itself hasn't changed at all. It might be a great poem - the greatest poem ever written, but it doesn't make the paper any better. Said fantastic poem could've been written on any other piece of paper sizable enough to contain it and it would not degrade in quality at all. Your piece of bog roll doesn't make the poem good, the poem is good by its own merits. By extension, the good poem doesn't make the toilet paper any better or worse - the paper is either good at its job (wiping your ass) or it isn't. In the case of the latter, all you end up with is a sore asshole and crap smeared over your hand. Console exclusivity is a tricky way of attaching completely artificial value to a system when in fact the system should stand on its own two feet just fine.

To summarize, a video game console is a cheap substitute of a PC for the technologically-impaired - that's it, that's all they have ever been. Cry all you want - deep down you know this to be true. They have their charm, they have their quirks, they have their fancy names we can attach sentimental value to, but at the end of the day, they're just pieces of plastic electronics that are supposed to perform their duties and frankly, a PC performs all those tasks admirably to say the least and can be fitted to do whatever you want it to do without any artificial boundries whatsoever. Check mate, console peasants.

;O;
unlike with the $ony Vista, at least its 14 year old to get rigor mortis. not 3 years old.

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Love me some smell of delusion in the morning. To think that old N64 titles were holding up for some inexplicable amount of time - oh, the hilarity! ;O;
 

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Hello boys and girls, time for yet another Truth Bomb delivered straight to your door by none other than your favourite host - me. If I am not your favourite host, you need to re-evaluate your priorities in life. Moving on!

Truth Bomb #3: All your consoles are just cheap substitutes of a gaming PC. You might not like it, but it's true. If your console does something you find amazing, if there's a feature that gives you a boner of steel, PC did it first and chances are that it did that thing ten times better.

Argue as much as you'd like, the truth of the matter is that consoles entered the market for one reason and one reason only - to become a cheaper and simpler alternative to expensive full-scale computers - this was true in the 70'ies and it remains true today. Sure, the line between PC's and consoles is getting thinner and fainter with each new generation, but that's completely inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

Consoles lure you into a false conviction that your gaming experience is unique and superior to anything found elsewhere - wrong. It's not "different", it's just streamlined. There's differences between consoles, sure, but the one fact that remains unshaken is that a good PC does everything all your consoles do and more. A PC will do anything you equip it to do, a console is restricted to its function set with little to no possibilities of expansion and most certainly no possibility of going the extra mile beyond what the designers wished for the system to do (without the use of homebrew, which is frowned upon by the designers to begin with, so I don't treat it as an argument here).

There's also the problem of console-exclusive titles. Ah, yes - what better way to convince players that your video game system is better than another one than by releasing a game that's only available on yours? Except it isn't good at all. Here I often use the toilet roll analogy - if you take an ordinary roll of toilet paper and write a poem on it, does the quality of the paper increase in any way? Does it turn into a roll of high-quality parchment? Will it at least wipe your behind any better than before? No. No, it will not. It's the same piece of bog roll you had before, the paper itself hasn't changed at all. It might be a great poem - the greatest poem ever written, but it doesn't make the paper any better. Said fantastic poem could've been written on any other piece of paper sizable enough to contain it and it would not degrade in quality at all. Your piece of bog roll doesn't make the poem good, the poem is good by its own merits. By extension, the good poem doesn't make the toilet paper any better or worse - the paper is either good at its job (wiping your ass) or it isn't. In the case of the latter, all you end up with is a sore asshole and crap smeared over your hand. Console exclusivity is a tricky way of attaching completely artificial value to a system when in fact the system should stand on its own two feet just fine.

To summarize, a video game console is a cheap substitute of a PC - that's it, that's all it has ever been. Cry all you want - deep down you know this to be true. They have their charm, they have their quirks, they have their fancy names we can attach sentimental value to, but at the end of the day, they're just pieces of plastic electronics that are supposed to perform their duties and frankly, a PC performs all those tasks admirably to say the least and can be fitted to do whatever you want it to do without any artificial boundries whatsoever. Check mate, console peasants.

;O;
Love me some smell of delusion in the morning. To think that old N64 titles were holding up for some inexplicable amount of time - oh, the hilarity! ;O;



Has science gone to far?


is this post real or fake.
 

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On writing on bogroll, I do suggest people use faster drying ink.... fortunately I was already planning to leave that location when I discovered why that is a good idea.

Anyway these days in home consoles then sure, I have not found a DS sized PC that is a tetris machine though. Also granted it is not like I tetris anywhere other than my PC chair, my bed (which is near my PC chair), the sofa (which does not have my PC nearby so I tend not to sit on it anyway) or when waiting for something to install. Might have to install a dedicated tetris screen on my PC.
 

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PC Master Race, reporting for duty.
 

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On writing on bogroll, I do suggest people use faster drying ink.... fortunately I was already planning to leave that location when I discovered why that is a good idea.

Anyway these days in home consoles then sure, I have not found a DS sized PC that is a tetris machine though. Also granted it is not like I tetris anywhere other than my PC chair, my bed (which is near my PC chair), the sofa (which does not have my PC nearby so I tend not to sit on it anyway) or when waiting for something to install. Might have to install a dedicated tetris screen on my PC.


DS sized Personal Computer... may i point you here http://gbatemp.net/forums/mobile-phones-and-media-players.194/
 

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Now that the PC master race is filled with fucking noobs who think to be funny, I'm back to defend consoles again.

PS4 has a cool shape.
Xbox One is from Microsoft
Wii U shell is shiny

Vita has a latin name
3DS is portable
 

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It isn't if you're poortendo. Peasants gonna peasant. ;O;

:unsure: I don't get it?

Also, you're one to talk! You're a fan of Mac's AFAIR, the most overpriced PC's on the market. :rofl2:

Compared to what? Custom-Built PCs? Most OEM hardware costs more than your typical build.

But that's besides the point, the SGI IRIS/Indigo/Octane mashup in that GIF isn't a PC, It's a UNIX Workstation.
 

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:unsure: I don't get it?
Slight at the price complaint.
Not sure what you're getting at, Macs are are generally priced around the same range as similarly equipped machines from other OEMs.
No, they're really not.
But that's besides the point, the SGI IRIS/Indigo/Octane mashup in that GIF isn't a PC, It's a UNIX Workstation.
Which is a PC. It's a computer, it's small (in perspective. It's definitely not a mainframe computer), it requires one operator, it computes.
 

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No, they're really not.
I'm guessing you've done your research, I've done mine, and that's the conclusion I've come to.

Which is a PC. It's a computer, it's small (in perspective. It's definitely not a mainframe computer), it requires one operator, it computes.

PC stands for "personal computer", not "small computer"... You're thinking of "microcomputer".

SGI machines were not personal, they were intended for use in rendering/modeling/timesharing/graphics/mathematics/server/etc environments, not for "personal" use.
Even the "Personal IRIS" was out of the reach of your typical buyer.
And "UNIX Workstations" were/are typically +$10,000, not really personal.

Sure, many people own "personal" SGI machines these days, but they've purchased them on the used market.
 

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I'm guessing you've done your research, I've done mine, and that's the conclusion I've come to.

PC stands for "personal computer", not "small computer"... You're thinking of "microcomputer".

SGI machines were not personal, they were intended for use in rendering/modeling/timesharing/graphics/mathematics/server/etc environments, not for "personal" use.
Even the "Personal IRIS" was out of the reach of your typical buyer.
And "UNIX Workstations" were/are typically +$10,000, not really personal.

Sure, many people own "personal" SGI machines these days, but they've purchased them on the used market.
Even a calculator can be considered a microcomputer, so that definition can go pretty far. If the price tag is your only argument then I have to inform you that there's people who are perfectly fine with spending a filthy amount of money on computers. Don't get me wrong, I see your point, but all I'm seeing is a standard desktop computer that just happens to be beefy. Also, EoF. ;)
 

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Is it really so hard to believe that EA has put out some great games, some of which are the biggest in history, that Nintendo has been in a copy-pasta rut since N64, and that consoles ARE just budget computers with a niche purpose? Even if you're a fan or a hipster atleast some of you should able to be objective enough to see the the truth in the truth bombs. Whats been said is blasphemy sure, but they're not wrong.

Tell us how much recycling is lie.
 
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