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<blockquote data-quote="Prophet" data-source="post: 4614271" data-attributes="member: 3089"><p>No I don't mean to say the two are equal, only to point out that an act of theft may occur without costing the victim anything or incurring any tangible loss. Which simply underlines the error of the definition you linked: "Piracy is not theft because it does not cause any direct damage or loss to the other party." But as you just agreed, in the case of the bread swap (where there was no direct damage or loss), an act of theft has still occurred; as you stated, one has "still stole."</p><p></p><p> </p><p>That’s absurd. If the owner of the magic oven doesn't have a legal claim to the product of <em>his</em> oven<em>; </em>then whomever owns a factory, wouldn't have a legal claim to the products produced by said factory. Why would anyone own a factory under such conditions?</p><p> </p><p>Of course factories are often contracted to produce goods for other companies. Nonetheless, under simple circumstances, in the absence of any such arrangements; whomsoever owns the means of production, owns the product produced. Simple facet of property ownership. How else would dog breeders have the right to sell the offspring of their dogs?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I refuse to reiterate what is meant by grave need -- my first post clearly describes the circumstances in which I am proposing piracy would be permissible and in turn outlines the conditions necessary for a “need” to pass this permissibility test.</p><p> </p><p>Definitions are tricky in general. After all who should get to decide the limits and precise meaning of any term? So to avoid the quagmire of “meaning,” let’s just focus on a specific example. Crysis 2 was heavily pirated and makes for a good example of what I have in mind as “video games” designed specifically for “enjoyment/entertainment.” Would you like to provide a practical example in which one <em>needs</em> to pirate Crysis 2? If you can, congratulations, you will have successfully addressed an insignificant aside I made in saying, “I can't imagine any practical case in which it would be.”</p><p> </p><p>I know the majority of us are pirates, myself included. But in order to ease our consciences we shouldn't embrace the sophistry commonly found in “pro-pirate” arguments. Better to be admittedly amoral on a petty scale than to delude oneself with shoddy logic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prophet, post: 4614271, member: 3089"] No I don't mean to say the two are equal, only to point out that an act of theft may occur without costing the victim anything or incurring any tangible loss. Which simply underlines the error of the definition you linked: "Piracy is not theft because it does not cause any direct damage or loss to the other party." But as you just agreed, in the case of the bread swap (where there was no direct damage or loss), an act of theft has still occurred; as you stated, one has "still stole." That’s absurd. If the owner of the magic oven doesn't have a legal claim to the product of [I]his[/I] oven[I]; [/I]then whomever owns a factory, wouldn't have a legal claim to the products produced by said factory. Why would anyone own a factory under such conditions? Of course factories are often contracted to produce goods for other companies. Nonetheless, under simple circumstances, in the absence of any such arrangements; whomsoever owns the means of production, owns the product produced. Simple facet of property ownership. How else would dog breeders have the right to sell the offspring of their dogs? I refuse to reiterate what is meant by grave need -- my first post clearly describes the circumstances in which I am proposing piracy would be permissible and in turn outlines the conditions necessary for a “need” to pass this permissibility test. Definitions are tricky in general. After all who should get to decide the limits and precise meaning of any term? So to avoid the quagmire of “meaning,” let’s just focus on a specific example. Crysis 2 was heavily pirated and makes for a good example of what I have in mind as “video games” designed specifically for “enjoyment/entertainment.” Would you like to provide a practical example in which one [I]needs[/I] to pirate Crysis 2? If you can, congratulations, you will have successfully addressed an insignificant aside I made in saying, “I can't imagine any practical case in which it would be.” I know the majority of us are pirates, myself included. But in order to ease our consciences we shouldn't embrace the sophistry commonly found in “pro-pirate” arguments. Better to be admittedly amoral on a petty scale than to delude oneself with shoddy logic. [/QUOTE]
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