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<blockquote data-quote="Tatsuna" data-source="post: 9410682" data-attributes="member: 523087"><p>First of all, I'd like to clarify that I wouldn't have played the game in any case since it is really not my cup of tea. That being said, I hope I have dissipated the overly mature and teenager-ish incel joke that every childish person has up their sleeve (most of all because I wouldn't want to embarrass myself with my fiancée and our 7+ years-long relationship).</p><p></p><p>Now, let's primally debunk the most stated lie: "Valve is a private company, they decide their own rules and what's sold on their stores". Very well. First of all, I noticed that this is the same boring and dumb double standard of the Internet: would any of you who celebrate the removal of this game let it pass if a LGBTQ+ game wouldn't be released because of "potential controversy" and "Valve does what it wants with their stores"? No, you probably would be bitch and moaning on Twitter, searching for the IDs of the review staff of Steam, blasting their profile pages and demanding accountability, freedom for artists, "rights". The difference here is that it's something that you don't like it, that you wouldn't play – excatly like me, with the important dissimilarity that I would not stop something I don't appreciate from being released.</p><p>Second argument: no, Steam is not entirely free to remove contents they don't like. When the West decided to embrace neo-liberalism in the 90s, we also decided that privates have a social function to provide services for all people in the free market, with the countries to exercise control on it and punish privates if they limit people because of their gender, sex, ethnicity, race, preferences. That's the reason why in several countries courts have determined that social networks like Facebook and Twitter CANNOT ban fascists pages or profiles, because they are still free to express their ideas and since the political discourse is heavily influenced by social medias, it would be hindered if socials were to start a purge, hence courts ruled against this policy of them. No matter what their TOS are. Otherwise, let's nationalize privates and let the States handle everything, but at that point it'd be communism and we know how it ends. There's no authority on Earth who should be free to decide what can be done in a fictional work or not, because otherwise what's the point of having a democratic system and treaties on human rights? </p><p></p><p>Last but not least. You. You, who celebrates on the removal of this game. You are the reason gaming is in its current state right now. You are not different than my church-devoted uncle in the 90s who swore to my face to "take Pokémon down" because it relates to Satanism. You are the reason gaming has become what promised to destroy: bigotry, censorship, fear of artists to express themselves because of consequences, status quo. You are happy now, because what's removed is something you don't like. But we all know how this goes, don't we? We are supposed to all be gamers, not Class A or class B of renounceable games. When your games will be removed too, what will you do? You gave privates the power to do so. How will you fight? With a trial? Where are you going to take the money to do so? Let's think about everybody's rights, people. Today it's theirs we accept to limit, at what point will we accept to limit ours?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tatsuna, post: 9410682, member: 523087"] First of all, I'd like to clarify that I wouldn't have played the game in any case since it is really not my cup of tea. That being said, I hope I have dissipated the overly mature and teenager-ish incel joke that every childish person has up their sleeve (most of all because I wouldn't want to embarrass myself with my fiancée and our 7+ years-long relationship). Now, let's primally debunk the most stated lie: "Valve is a private company, they decide their own rules and what's sold on their stores". Very well. First of all, I noticed that this is the same boring and dumb double standard of the Internet: would any of you who celebrate the removal of this game let it pass if a LGBTQ+ game wouldn't be released because of "potential controversy" and "Valve does what it wants with their stores"? No, you probably would be bitch and moaning on Twitter, searching for the IDs of the review staff of Steam, blasting their profile pages and demanding accountability, freedom for artists, "rights". The difference here is that it's something that you don't like it, that you wouldn't play – excatly like me, with the important dissimilarity that I would not stop something I don't appreciate from being released. Second argument: no, Steam is not entirely free to remove contents they don't like. When the West decided to embrace neo-liberalism in the 90s, we also decided that privates have a social function to provide services for all people in the free market, with the countries to exercise control on it and punish privates if they limit people because of their gender, sex, ethnicity, race, preferences. That's the reason why in several countries courts have determined that social networks like Facebook and Twitter CANNOT ban fascists pages or profiles, because they are still free to express their ideas and since the political discourse is heavily influenced by social medias, it would be hindered if socials were to start a purge, hence courts ruled against this policy of them. No matter what their TOS are. Otherwise, let's nationalize privates and let the States handle everything, but at that point it'd be communism and we know how it ends. There's no authority on Earth who should be free to decide what can be done in a fictional work or not, because otherwise what's the point of having a democratic system and treaties on human rights? Last but not least. You. You, who celebrates on the removal of this game. You are the reason gaming is in its current state right now. You are not different than my church-devoted uncle in the 90s who swore to my face to "take Pokémon down" because it relates to Satanism. You are the reason gaming has become what promised to destroy: bigotry, censorship, fear of artists to express themselves because of consequences, status quo. You are happy now, because what's removed is something you don't like. But we all know how this goes, don't we? We are supposed to all be gamers, not Class A or class B of renounceable games. When your games will be removed too, what will you do? You gave privates the power to do so. How will you fight? With a trial? Where are you going to take the money to do so? Let's think about everybody's rights, people. Today it's theirs we accept to limit, at what point will we accept to limit ours? [/QUOTE]
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