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<blockquote data-quote="Armadillo" data-source="post: 7479484" data-attributes="member: 15993"><p>What servers we talking about here? Most stuff is player hosted p2p, the few games that do have dedicated servers aren't provided by Sony, but by the pub of the game. Rocket league = Psyonix, Battlefield = EA, Battlefront= EA, I think COD might have some now, Activision picking up the tab. Can't think of any games where Sony are hosting the servers. Even big Sony published titles like Uncharted are still using the same shit tier p2p they always have.</p><p></p><p>In case of cross platform games, it's the same servers. Rocket league, I can literally sit in the same psyonix hosted server as a playstation player. Yet they have to pay for privilege.</p><p></p><p>Servers for psn itself, of course have a cost, but Sony get a cut of every single game sold for the console, valve manage to run a similar service and only get a cut from stuff bought directly from steam (valve get nothing from keys bought elsewhere) and on top of that, actually provide dedicated servers for their games. Sony can't even be bothered for games they publish.</p><p></p><p>It's been years since psn went paid and you still can't even change your name.</p><p></p><p>"Free" games, well the pricing model speaks for itself really. If the "free" games were as amazing as people make out, they could stand on their own, just as they did with ps+ on the ps3.</p><p></p><p>It's a farce. The baseline for paid online play, should be dedicated servers made available by the service provider (in this case, Sony) to every dev that wants them, free of charge. You're paying Sony for online play, they should at least make sure dedicated servers are on the table for any devs that want them and remove the cost barrier to the devs.</p><p></p><p>MS are no better in this regard, Azure still costs devs to use, but at least MS generally uses it for their 1st party titles.</p><p></p><p>It's unbelievable that people will pay for the privilege of p2p hosting, but not only that, rush in to defend it and complain people are "entitled" because they don't think the service is worth the asking price.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Armadillo, post: 7479484, member: 15993"] What servers we talking about here? Most stuff is player hosted p2p, the few games that do have dedicated servers aren't provided by Sony, but by the pub of the game. Rocket league = Psyonix, Battlefield = EA, Battlefront= EA, I think COD might have some now, Activision picking up the tab. Can't think of any games where Sony are hosting the servers. Even big Sony published titles like Uncharted are still using the same shit tier p2p they always have. In case of cross platform games, it's the same servers. Rocket league, I can literally sit in the same psyonix hosted server as a playstation player. Yet they have to pay for privilege. Servers for psn itself, of course have a cost, but Sony get a cut of every single game sold for the console, valve manage to run a similar service and only get a cut from stuff bought directly from steam (valve get nothing from keys bought elsewhere) and on top of that, actually provide dedicated servers for their games. Sony can't even be bothered for games they publish. It's been years since psn went paid and you still can't even change your name. "Free" games, well the pricing model speaks for itself really. If the "free" games were as amazing as people make out, they could stand on their own, just as they did with ps+ on the ps3. It's a farce. The baseline for paid online play, should be dedicated servers made available by the service provider (in this case, Sony) to every dev that wants them, free of charge. You're paying Sony for online play, they should at least make sure dedicated servers are on the table for any devs that want them and remove the cost barrier to the devs. MS are no better in this regard, Azure still costs devs to use, but at least MS generally uses it for their 1st party titles. It's unbelievable that people will pay for the privilege of p2p hosting, but not only that, rush in to defend it and complain people are "entitled" because they don't think the service is worth the asking price. [/QUOTE]
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