Hacking give a rest guys

[OmegaVesko]

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But shovelware has been around as long as gaming itself has....look back at the NES era...

It wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. The reason Nintendo consoles have been getting shovelware is because the Nintendo Seal of Quality has lost its meaning. Remember the NES days: It was literally illegal to produce carts that weren't quality approved by Nintendo/shovelware.

 

[FAST6191]

Nothing really to say on the rest of the topic at this point other than not all systems are the same and attempting to infer things looking at others is not all that useful. Indeed looking at the history for any device is probably not that useful* other than if you actually want to learn about the techniques and methods ultimately used to do it (something that hopefully will make you a better hacker). On the matter of the PS3 if pressed I would answer "the emperor has no clothes".

*students of history and those attempting to draw correlations with sales of various forms you are noted.

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But shovelware has been around as long as gaming itself has....look back at the NES era...

It wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. The reason Nintendo consoles have been getting shovelware is because the Nintendo Seal of Quality has lost its meaning. Remember the NES days: It was literally illegal to produce carts that weren't quality approved by Nintendo/shovelware.

Maybe but this resulted in several fundamental court cases establishing law in the area- http://digital-law-online.info/cases/24PQ2D1015.htm (granted it is usually Sega vs Accolade that is called upon in such cases but this is an equally important case).
Equally you know what else is effectively full of shovelware- the music CD and DVD industry. I mean how much of their output (percentage wise) is offensive to my senses/sensibilities.

 

[Nollog]

The NES had 10 times more titles than the wii+ps3+360 have together.
You folk either weren't there, or are remembering only the good games you played.
It was a festival of crap.

 

[machomuu]

But shovelware has been around as long as gaming itself has....look back at the NES era...

True, but can you say it was as rampant and demanded as it was now, or were they trying to be truly innovative across an almost infinite-possibility plain? Something modern shovelware lacks IMO...

No. No. NO! I would even go on a limb and say shovelware was more plentiful and worse back then. You ever heard of The Angry Video Game Nerd? Google him. Watch a few videos. Even as a retro gamer I can say that those games are somehow worse.