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<blockquote data-quote="sergster1" data-source="post: 4888092" data-attributes="member: 200228"><p>I think I speak for everyone when I say we're getting really tired of you constant bullshit. For the past few days you've listened to everything but reason and constantly defend Gateway to death. This whole debacle is Gateways fault. You know why? They willingly put code in their firmware that they knew would cause someone's console to be bricked. Thats fucking horrible.</p><p> </p><p>You know what else? You keep on saying that "R4i should have tested their software". Heres the thing. Notice how everyone's consoles started to get bricked all around the same time? Do you not THINK that gateway (seeing as they're ballsy enough to do this) would have had coded the brick to begin happening after a certain datetime requirement was met? (which was around tuesday based on when reports started coming in). Also it was nearly impossible for the clone manufacturers and even Normatt to see every piece of the code that would cause bricking. This is because from the last update they included a CPU emulator in the LOADER.dat that obfuscated their code when it ran (if you dont know what it means look it up). Meaning that even if they did see some of the code that could cause bricking there might have been other bits of code that could cause the brick regardless.</p><p> </p><p>Then you say that if you use official gateway cards that you have "ZERO Chance of bricking" which was proven false today by users like Apolloooo and people from other forums. Gateways code is NOT failsafe and shouldn't have been put in the first place. There are other alternatives to combating dare I say Piracy of Pirate carts. Look at what nintendo does for example in their anti-piracy. They make the game unstable, no load, and corrupt saves. Have they ever bricked a console over a single pirated game which is in their right to do so as its stated in their TOS of which YOU agreed to whenever you update your console and when you bought your console in the first place. No they haven't. But you know what? I bet that you would be the first ones complaining "BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW Nintendo bricked my console give me a new one!!!!!!!" but aren't then using the same tactics that Gateway is? Hell doesn't Nintendo have the RIGHT and also the RESPONSIBILITY to prevent people like you from pirating their games?</p><p> </p><p>I'm not saying what the clone manufacturers did was right and I even agree that Normatt is also somewhat at fault for releasing his region free patch knowing that Gateway had some sort of kill code even if he thought he patched it out but you CANNOT completely absolve Gateway from fault.</p><p> </p><p>TL;DR: Get your head out of your ass. Nobody here is saying that what the R4i team did was right but Gateway isnt right aswell for what they did.</p><p> </p><p>EDIT: Also you're better off buying a new 3DS than sending your 3DS to gateway. You're literally giving them your 3DS as hostage if you do as nothing can force them to send you your 3DS back for free if they deem that you used a clone cart even if you didnt. Also I'd be wary of trusting the Gateway team considering a few hours ago they referred to you as "cheap Chinese laborers hired by clone manufacturers to tarnish the oh so sacred Gateway name"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sergster1, post: 4888092, member: 200228"] I think I speak for everyone when I say we're getting really tired of you constant bullshit. For the past few days you've listened to everything but reason and constantly defend Gateway to death. This whole debacle is Gateways fault. You know why? They willingly put code in their firmware that they knew would cause someone's console to be bricked. Thats fucking horrible. You know what else? You keep on saying that "R4i should have tested their software". Heres the thing. Notice how everyone's consoles started to get bricked all around the same time? Do you not THINK that gateway (seeing as they're ballsy enough to do this) would have had coded the brick to begin happening after a certain datetime requirement was met? (which was around tuesday based on when reports started coming in). Also it was nearly impossible for the clone manufacturers and even Normatt to see every piece of the code that would cause bricking. This is because from the last update they included a CPU emulator in the LOADER.dat that obfuscated their code when it ran (if you dont know what it means look it up). Meaning that even if they did see some of the code that could cause bricking there might have been other bits of code that could cause the brick regardless. Then you say that if you use official gateway cards that you have "ZERO Chance of bricking" which was proven false today by users like Apolloooo and people from other forums. Gateways code is NOT failsafe and shouldn't have been put in the first place. There are other alternatives to combating dare I say Piracy of Pirate carts. Look at what nintendo does for example in their anti-piracy. They make the game unstable, no load, and corrupt saves. Have they ever bricked a console over a single pirated game which is in their right to do so as its stated in their TOS of which YOU agreed to whenever you update your console and when you bought your console in the first place. No they haven't. But you know what? I bet that you would be the first ones complaining "BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW Nintendo bricked my console give me a new one!!!!!!!" but aren't then using the same tactics that Gateway is? Hell doesn't Nintendo have the RIGHT and also the RESPONSIBILITY to prevent people like you from pirating their games? I'm not saying what the clone manufacturers did was right and I even agree that Normatt is also somewhat at fault for releasing his region free patch knowing that Gateway had some sort of kill code even if he thought he patched it out but you CANNOT completely absolve Gateway from fault. TL;DR: Get your head out of your ass. Nobody here is saying that what the R4i team did was right but Gateway isnt right aswell for what they did. EDIT: Also you're better off buying a new 3DS than sending your 3DS to gateway. You're literally giving them your 3DS as hostage if you do as nothing can force them to send you your 3DS back for free if they deem that you used a clone cart even if you didnt. Also I'd be wary of trusting the Gateway team considering a few hours ago they referred to you as "cheap Chinese laborers hired by clone manufacturers to tarnish the oh so sacred Gateway name" [/QUOTE]
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