Bad morning post

[AncientBoi]

I'm having a Bad Morning ! I'm out of

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Worse ! The stores aren't open yet ! ​

 

[Cranesbill]

See my earlier point about good and bad being inherently subjective

That's moralities tho, we need that objective standard

 

[Cranesbill]

I'm having a Bad Morning ! I'm out of

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THIS, is an example of a bad morning happening by force of nature

 

[x65943]

That's moralities tho, we need that objective standard

Okay sir please tell me how to objectively tell if something is good or bad

You can't

Why?

Because every judgement or valuation is inherently relative - NOT just morals

 

[Cranesbill]

Okay sir please tell me how to objectively tell if something is good or bad

You can't

Why?

Because every judgement or valuation is inherently relative - NOT just morals

Truth is that debating moral issues is a commitment to civility

We need something other than personal feelings to guide our understanding of how we should react or decide on our mornings or marlities, otherwise we'll end up with violence as soon as our emotions tell us to

 

[AncientBoi]

Truth is that debating moral issues is a commitment to civility

We need something other than personal feelings to guide our understanding of how we should react or decide on our mornings or marlities, otherwise we'll end up with violence as soon as our emotions tell us to

Duuuuude, Calm down,

 

[Cranesbill]

Duuuuude, Calm down,

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But Annnccccciiiiiieeennnttttt

If just saying morality is subjective, it won't reduce the number of disagreements we have with others, it'll just remove the barriers we have for when those disagreements do happen

Why should we lose the ability to call things out as unquestionably morally wrong?

 

[AncientBoi]

But Annnccccciiiiiieeennnttttt

If just saying morality is subjective, it won't reduce the number of disagreements we have with others, it'll just remove the barriers we have for when those disagreements do happen

Why should we lose the ability to call things out as unquestionably morally wrong?

Just stop dude.

 

[Cranesbill]

View attachment 526311View attachment 526312 Just stop dude.

SO I AM RIGHT

 

[CoolMe]

Duuuuude, Calm down,

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i'd chuck everything cranes says in the fuckit bucket but hey that's just me

 

[Cranesbill]

i'd chuck everything cranes says in the fuckit bucket but hey that's just me

Yeah and you're like the last person in this world anyone wants to fuck with, but hey that's just subjective

 

[x65943]

Truth is that debating moral issues is a commitment to civility

We need something other than personal feelings to guide our understanding of how we should react or decide on our mornings or marlities, otherwise we'll end up with violence as soon as our emotions tell us to

I'm not just talking about morals

I'm talking about something as simple as good and bad being subjective

and you have proven my point, you cannot prove otherwise

good and bad are ALWAYS subjective no matter what

 

[Cranesbill]

I'm not just talking about morals

I'm talking about something as simple as good and bad being subjective

and you have proven my point, you cannot prove otherwise

good and bad are ALWAYS subjective no matter what

Good and bad are part of morals, but THERE'S STILL A BASELINE

 

[x65943]

Good and bad are part of morals, but THERE'S STILL A BASELINE

rather than stating things please explain them

because we can both state things - but in order to have other people believe you - you'll have to back up your claims

so please explain

1. how good and bad are part of morals (do you mean always?? So good ice cream is a moral statement?)

2. the baseline you are talking about, and please I will need objective data if you're claiming it's an objective baseline. If you think it's a subjective baseline, then we already agree

 

[Cranesbill]

rather than stating things please explain them

because we can both state things - but in order to have other people believe you - you'll have to back up your claims

so please explain

1. how good and bad are part of morals (do you mean always?? So good ice cream is a moral statement?)

2. the baseline you are talking about, and please I will need objective data if you're claiming it's an objective baseline. If you think it's a subjective baseline, then we already agree

No the only tools you idiots have to convince one another about your worldview are insults or manipulation

Are you actually pissed? Because this just a Morning Post

 

[x65943]

No the only tools you idiots have to convince one another about your worldview are insults or manipulation

Are you actually pissed? Because this just a Morning Post

you are deflecting

which is fine, there is no reasonable response possible if you are arguing good/bad are not subjective

 

[Cranesbill]

you are deflecting

which is fine, there is no reasonable response possible if you are arguing good/bad are not subjective

You think I wanna risk our friendship? You'll become like Hippy one day

 

[x65943]

You think I wanna risk our friendship? You'll become like Hippy one day

cranesbill

1. you're still deflecting

2. I as a general rule do not blame anyone for anything - as I don't believe in free will

As such, I think you're just you, and I don't blame you for being you. And if you don't physically or materially hurt me, I'll never ignore you or be mad at you

I'm a very simple guy

 

[Cranesbill]

cranesbill

1. you're still deflecting

2. I as a general rule do not blame anyone for anything - as I don't believe in free will

As such, I think you're just you, and I don't blame you for being you. And if you don't physically or materially hurt me, I'll never ignore you or be mad at you

I'm a very simple guy

"don't believe in free will"


this son of a bitch . . . .

 

[x65943]

"don't believe in free will"


this son of a bitch . . . .

consider this

the mind is a machine

machines follow rules

you don't expect your computer to make a free decision, do you?

your computer decides what it will do based on an algorithm and the data

in a computer, if all variables are the same, the algorithm should always spit out the same result, right?

The human mind, as a complex organic computer, is the same way

as such you do not actually have the capability of making any decisions - everything is in a sense, determined by the circumstance, initial variables, the algorithm etc