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Nintendo Switch 2: The Current State of Physical Releases

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@VmprHntrD im mostly not a fan cause the game data i paid for should be on the fucking cart so i dont have to spend insane amounts on express-storage when thats not my responsibility but theirs.
But we all know what nintendo is like.
Cheap and greedy and petty and pathetic.
Which is why hacking Nintendo-systems is always morally justified and at least i can sell my fake cartridges whenever the first hack comes out and then i wont have to deal with them ever again.
 
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Nakamichi said:
@VmprHntrD im mostly not a fan cause the game data i paid for should be on the fucking cart so i dont have to spend insane amounts on express-storage when thats not my responsibility but theirs.
But we all know what nintendo is like.
Cheap and greedy and petty and pathetic.
Which is why hacking Nintendo-systems ia always morally justified and at least i can sell my fake cartridges whenever the first hack comes out and then i wont have to deal with them ever again.
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They're all sadly ditching physical media. Pokopia should've been a real physical copy, yet it wasn't.

GTA VI... https://www.ign.com/articles/grand-...t-include-a-disc-will-just-be-a-code-in-a-box
 
Marc_LFD said:
They're all sadly ditching physical media. Pokopia should've been a real physical copy, yet it wasn't.

GTA VI... https://www.ign.com/articles/grand-...t-include-a-disc-will-just-be-a-code-in-a-box
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When its free i honestly dont mind. Thats what i get for not paying, but when someone actually asks me to give them my money they should provide somewhat better service than piracy. If what they offer is so piss-poor and pathetic can you really blame people for ditching that entire system the first moment theres an alternative?

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Nakamichi said:
@VmprHntrD im mostly not a fan cause the game data i paid for should be on the fucking cart so i dont have to spend insane amounts on express-storage when thats not my responsibility but theirs.
But we all know what nintendo is like.
Cheap and greedy and petty and pathetic.
Which is why hacking Nintendo-systems is always morally justified and at least i can sell my fake cartridges whenever the first hack comes out and then i wont have to deal with them ever again.
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Look neither am I, we agree there.

Basically I just see a gray area on this that's kind of unavoidable but otherwise I'd be ideally black and white on it too.

The keycards as of months ago earlier in this year were only 64GB and cost the developer $15 a card for an order of games which is a bite for sure, and when the game was using like 5GB or 30GB it was a huge waste of space, and often those were not $60-70 but budget titles in the $40-50 space, it left little room for making money worthwhile over digital or evil paper in a box. That made sense, and into this year to a lessening degree as more projects start with smaller choices gets leaner. If we see more games that aren't small on 16 and 32s by the end of the year, it's the sheer will of greed and DRM control freak behavior.

The other going forward are the two fair answers, a game too big (over 64GB) that can't be compressed to fit because a 96GB card if it existed would be over $20 a pop and price games where most non-avid gamers wouldn't buy it so it makes sense. The other are games where the media whether a game card or an optical disc can't shove enough data through memory fast enough that it causes bottleneck issues which only downgrading the game or having multiple load screens all over would mitigate and that's not great either. I can agree on those points for certain, and the earlier one up to this point now but that dies as the months go along.

Hacking a Nintendo system isn't morally justified, that's just copium for piracy, same with Sony and MS systems too. Just admit you don't want to pay for it and that's that. That's just being a hater of one company over another or all if you're more into computer gaming whoever that 'you' is.
 
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Captain_N said:
Do you have a source that says that cart data is compressed? Has anyone even decrypted cart data? I know the SoC has it, but is it actually being used to decompress cart data. Also, you cant tell me that marconix or whatever company manufactures the nand chips cant make a 128gb cart? Must be to expensive?

I get that AI is raising the demand, but there does not seem to be a manufacturing issue with switch 1 nand. Unless its already manufactured 3 years ago.

Nintendo should also let a publisher use a switch 1 cart for a switch 2 game if that game does not need the speed of the new carts. no way every game needs that read speed.
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VmprHntrD said:
I've never heard about this compressed data thing either.

But it's also not fair to say all of them enough under 64GB being used for key cards are just cucks. Production of a game takes months, sometimes well over a year (or 2+ based on size of project) and at some point earlier on it would have been set in fairly decent stone the needs of the game. Up until earlier this year Nintendo was zipped lips (which was shit to do) about there being a 16 and 32GB option in the works for production, R-Type happened with ININ's pressuring to be the first announced. So there would be a run up of games created in 2025 and 2026 that would never know of those until development was deep or nearly done and would have missed the pressing of those smaller media. Some are DRM nazis and cheapskates for sure, but some just got hung out to dry. As we move deeper into 2026 and into 2027 those using key cards better have a good reason as hiding being an ass out of it would be indefensible.
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The Switch 2 SoC has a dedicated file decompression block. Devs can use it to handle a bit of on the fly file decompression and fetching from the game data instead of eating up CPU cycles to do it. I believe Cyberpunk and star wars outlaws are the 2 notable examples of it being used.

Its not their to necessarily reduce file sizes but more free up the CPU from having to do the work and focus more on the game code.
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Nakamichi said:
When its free i honestly dont mind. Thats what i get for not paying, but when someone actually asks me to give them my money they should provide somewhat better service than piracy. If what they offer is so piss-poor and pathetic can you really blame people for ditching that entire system the first moment theres an alternative?

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I do find it funny when people in a physical media argument post the Gabe quote out of context in favor of physical media.
When Steam is the one of the biggest reasons physical media on PC has been dead for almost 20 years now and steam itself is DRM. Granted its an out of your way and easy to remove DRM but its still DRM.
 
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ChibiMofo said:
Except for the part about simply admitting that you are a thief. Trying to justify your theft because the other side wants to make as much money as possible is pathetic.

Just 🏴‍☠️fly the flag🏴‍☠️ proudly like the rest of us.
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yes, very nice. 5 out of 10 points. Good attempt, lacks conviction.
 

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