Visual of the Switch 1 hacking timeline, with a visualization of where we are from the switch 2 launch (152 days post launch)

x65943 · May 2, 2026

ChibiMofo said:
I'm certain most of us actually know that it won't be hacked because it cannot be hacked. That's why the topic rarely comes up any more. No one with a shred of credibility is working on it because it is a waste of time. This generation Nintendo is secure.

You should google Gezine then because he has a very robust track record in the PS5 scene

And no, going to highschool with Kevin Mitnic does not make you more qualified than Gezine

FernandoRocker · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
You should google Gezine then because he has a very robust track record in the PS5 scene

And no, going to highschool with Kevin Mitnic does not make you more qualified than Gezine

People equally qualified (or even more) like SciresM have said over and over again that the microkernel design of the Switch is bug-free.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

FernandoRocker said:
People equally qualified (or even more) like SciresM have said over and over again that the microkernel design of the Switch is bug-free.

and the xbox one (mentioned in that second screengrab) has now been blown wide open - through hard modding

I agree it won't be easy, but time and time again we see these systems get hacked eventually

SylverReZ · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
and the xbox one (mentioned in that second screengrab) has now been blown wide open - through hard modding

Bearing in mind that not everyone had gotten further into hard modifying the Xbox One in regards to glitching, even after this discovery was found, but some day we'll see progress.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

SylverReZ said:
Bearing in mind that not everyone had gotten further into hard modifying the Xbox One in regards to glitching, even after this discovery was found, but some day we'll see progress.

IMHO the main thing holding back Xbox one hacking was near complete lack of interest

FernandoRocker · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
and the xbox one (mentioned in that second screengrab) has now been blown wide open - through hard modding

I agree it won't be easy, but time and time again we see these systems get hacked eventually

The Switch 2 has a dual core lockstep (DLCS) precisely to avoid voltage exploits like the Xbox One one.

I think it is the only gaming console in existence with a DCLS.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

FernandoRocker said:
The Switch 2 has a dual core lockstep (DLCS) precisely to avoid voltage exploits like the Xbox One one.

I think it is the only gaming console in existence with a DCLS.

I'm not saying to exploit will be the same as the xbox one

just pointing out that the 2020 tweet you shared earlier was out of date

FernandoRocker · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
I'm not saying to exploit will be the same as the xbox one

just pointing out that the 2020 tweet you shared earlier was out of date

Well, here is an up-to-date post.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

FernandoRocker said:
Well, here is an up-to-date post.

people said this for 13 years about the xbox one

yes I understand sciresm hasn't found anything (and he also isn't looking anymore anyway - he retired from the scene)

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FernandoRocker · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
people said this for 13 years about the xbox one

yes I understand sciresm hasn't found anything (and he also isn't looking anymore anyway - he retired from the scene)

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I will be sure to return here in 13 years.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

FernandoRocker said:
I will be sure to return here in 13 years.

there is more interest in the switch 2 scene than there ever was for the xbox one

DiscostewSM · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
there is more interest in the switch 2 scene than there ever was for the xbox one

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This has absolutely no relevance to the situation.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

DiscostewSM said:
This has absolutely no relevance to the situation.

it does have relevance

systems with less interest will have fewer people looking to exploit them

ask yourself why there aren't chinese IQ exploits

DiscostewSM · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
it does have relevance

systems with less interest will have fewer people looking to exploit them

ask yourself why there aren't chinese IQ exploits

These are not the number of hackers for each platform. These are the number of consumers who bought a system to play on. You're trying to equate the number sold to some theory about a system's ability to be hacked, or that for every set number of consumers, there is at least one hacker among them trying to find an opening. That's not how it works at all.

Besides, this list only shows 10 platforms. What about the rest of them? Were they less hackable? Or perhaps fewer people interested in hacking them? There's no correlation here, only an assumption based on poor logic.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

DiscostewSM said:
These are not the number of hackers for each platform. These are the number of consumers who bought a system to play on. You're trying to equate the number sold to some theory about a system's ability to be hacked, or that for every set number of consumers, there is at least one hacker among them trying to find an opening. That's not how it works at all.

Besides, this list only shows 10 platforms. What about the rest of them? Were they less hackable? Or perhaps fewer people interested in hacking them? There's no correlation here, only an assumption based on poor logic.

I never claimed this was some 1:1 correlation

simply that there is more interest in the switch 2, related to more sales, which will naturally lead to more people looking at the system

you said it was totally irrelevant - but the fact is it does have some relevance here

(if you think I'm making some graph in my head with r2=1 then you've really missed the mark)

DiscostewSM · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
I never claimed this was some 1:1 correlation

simply that there is more interest in the switch 2, related to more sales, which will naturally lead to more people looking at the system

you said it was totally irrelevant - but the fact is it does have some relevance here

(if you think I'm making some graph in my head with r2=1 then you've really missed the mark)

Again, you are equating the sales of a console to "people looking at it" when that's not how it works. A hacker doesn't just get enlightened to go looking into a system because of console sales. They have their own reasons. Their own motives. I mean, you seem to be suggesting that Wii U had less people interested in hacking it than XB1 (since it is not listed in that Top 10). And as it is, you seem to be dismissing what an actual hacker has already said about both the Switch and Switch 2.

Oh, and you might want to keep up on the actual hacking scene, since the iQue Player did get hacked. Maybe that was something "you're" not interested in.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

DiscostewSM said:
Again, you are equating the sales of a console to "people looking at it" when that's not how it works. A hacker doesn't just get enlightened to go looking into a system because of console sales. They have their own reasons. Their own motives. I mean, you seem to be suggesting that Wii U had less people interested in hacking it than XB1 (since it is not listed in that Top 10). And as it is, you seem to be dismissing what an actual hacker has already said about both the Switch and Switch 2.

Oh, and you might want to keep up on the actual hacking scene, since the iQue Player did get hacked.

"equating" I never claimed to equate anything

But if you think console sales has nothing to do with scene interest you are living in denial

DiscostewSM · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
"equating" I never claimed to equate anything

But if you think console sales has nothing to do with scene interest you are living in denial

"more sales -> more people looking". You are practically showing you are equating it.

x65943 · May 3, 2026

DiscostewSM said:
"more sales -> more people looking". You are practically showing you are equating it.

Correlations can have varying degrees of strength

An example from human biology, the more older brothers a man has - the more likely that man is to be gay

This does not mean the 6th boy in a family will be gay (that would be equating the two, or saying there is a correlation of 1)

This simply means there is increased chance (in this case a less strong correlation - e.g. 0.1)

Many factors go into console hacking - this is one factor. I'm not equating anything

DiscostewSM · May 3, 2026

x65943 said:
Correlations can have varying degrees of strength

An example from human biology, the more older brothers a man has - the more likely that man is to be gay

This does not mean the 6th boy in a family will be gay (that would be equating the two, or saying there is a correlation of 1)

This simply means there is increased chance (in this case a less strong correlation - e.g. 0.1)

Many factors go into console hacking - this is one factor. I'm not equating anything

The fact is, you are trying to say there's a relation of one to the other, when there is no actual proof of it. You are "assuming" there is. And we already have one known hacker who was interested in working on Switch NOT interested in working on Switch 2, throwing that entire assumption off.

Visual of the Switch 1 hacking timeline, with a visualization of where we are from the switch 2 launch (152 days post launch)

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