militia

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Apr 12, 1980 (Age: 41)
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Thailand
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  • mr_switch @ mr_switch:
    same
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  • Veho @ Veho:
    TRJ, I learned all those in school/college.
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  • Veho @ Veho:
    As part of some course or other.
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  • Veho @ Veho:
    I forgot to list Assembler, Pascal and Matlab scripting.
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  • phalk @ phalk:
    I know some pascal, c, php
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  • phalk @ phalk:
    and I'm a History teacher
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  • Veho @ Veho:
    Went over the basics in all of them, never took it anywhere.
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  • Veho @ Veho:
    I do use bash for my job though. It's useful.
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  • phalk @ phalk:
    Assembler is something I always wanted to learn
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  • phalk @ phalk:
    but.... nah
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  • Veho @ Veho:
    No point really.
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  • Veho @ Veho:
    Even the simplest device these days runs some sort of high level language.
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  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    @Veho all the IT stuff i've learned in school has been extremely basic... i knew most of it already
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  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    it's better to learn on your own, it goes much faster than the snail pace they teach you at in school
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  • Coto @ Coto:
    assembly is actually great, gets you to run everything about 80% faster than C massaged code
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  • Coto @ Coto:
    assembler syntax is dead easy, but "how to put pieces together" logic requires to have in mind the original idea, and the CPU layout, and that's like double the work of C stuff. It's best to write C first, add some unit tests, then go assembly, then run the unit tests
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  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    it can run faster than compiled code, but modern compilers are really good at optimization and you need to be even better at assembly to do a better job
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  • Coto @ Coto:
    with that all your assembler base will actually work
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  • Coto @ Coto:
    even on embedded systems, without a damned debugger
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  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    syntax is easy but the code is hard to read, you can't look at a piece of code and expect to understand it without looking at all the code around it to see how it all works together so it takes much longer to read the code, it takes longer to write it too because what might be 1 line of code in C might be 20 lines of assembly
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  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    the language is very simple to understand (because it's barely a language at all) understanding how all the instructions work together to form a whole is another matter, in general it's such a pain to work with that i would never recommend it unless you have a need for it. don't listen to this guy and learn assembly just because you want to make your code run faster, you are wasting your time, but if you run into a situation where your code isn't fast enough even after you enabled -Ofast and you NEED it to be faster, then you can consider assembly
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  • The Real Jdbye @ The Real Jdbye:
    @Coto have you tried -Ofast btw? ;)
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  • Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo:
    I have o fast before but I suspect we are talking different Os lol
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    Psionic Roshambo @ Psionic Roshambo: https://youtu.be/bDoEWJP4D_Q