Joe Biden Wins - Becomes 46th president of the United States

[Lacius]

Well the problem about you people crying about no evidence and "prove it" is that the Biden campaign literally blocks any and all investigations that would look into the election and gather evidence.

The Biden campaign doesn't block "any and all investigations."

 

[Purple_Shyguy]

Not “I lost, so let me find something wrong“

Oh you mean like Russian hacking?

 

[Lacius]

Oh you mean like Russian hacking?

Russia demonstrably meddled in the 2016 election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

 

[tabzer]

I don't think Trump "manufactured" the idea of rigged elections. He's using the consensus that already agrees to the existence of them as leverage to gain favor with his base. Trump is not as much of an inventor as he is a utilizer.

I personally have trouble why people believe that the election was not rigged.

Well, at least you admit Trump lost the popular vote then as he did now. Most Trumpnuts won't even accept that!
Also... the Biden campaign doesn't do SHIT. They haven't blocked investigations, let alone ALL investigations. There have BEEN investigations, on top of Trump's numerous sore-loser lawsuits- and whaddya know? Turns out things are legit!

If "Trump" lost 60+ court cases then that same logic should apply that Biden jas been blocking/delaying investigation. Though it isn't Trump or Biden actually doing these things. One notable is that even though Trump disassociates with the Republican party at large, it doesn't stop people from attributing their efforts as being "for" him.

 

[Lacius]

I don't think Trump "manufactured" the idea of rigged elections. He's using the consensus that already agrees to the existence of them as leverage to gain favor with his base. Trump is not as much of an inventor as he is a utilizer.

Trump 100% manufactured the idea of the 2020 election being a rigged election. There is no evidence that the 2020 election was a rigged election, and Trump was the first to baselessly assert it was rigged. And, he continues to do so.

I personally have trouble why people believe that the election was not rigged.

No evidence has been provided that the election was rigged. To assert the election was rigged or probably rigged in the absence of evidence is, objectively, foolish. It's also dangerous.

If "Trump" lost 60+ court cases then that same logic should apply that Biden jas been blocking/delaying investigation. Though it isn't Trump or Biden actually doing these things. One notable is that even though Trump disassociates with the Republican party at large, it doesn't stop people from attributing their efforts as being "for" him.

Biden has not blocked or delayed legitimate investigations into the 2020 election.

 

[tabzer]

Russia demonstrably meddled in the 2016 election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

Yeah well, people think Seth Rich was thrown under the bus to prop the narrative of Russian meddling. Also, it should be acknowledged that a big part of how Russia "meddled" with the election is by exposing horrible truths about Clinton and the DNC. The truth can me meddling. Shame, that.

 

[ghjfdtg]

The Biden campaign doesn't even have the power to block anything. It's the courts who decided baseless rumors and conspiracies are not worth their time.

 

[tabzer]

Trump 100% manufactured the idea of the 2020 election being a rigged election. There is no evidence that the 2020 election was a rigged election, and Trump was the first to baselessly assert it was rigged. And, he continues to do so.


No evidence has been provided that the election was rigged. To assert the election was rigged or probably rigged in the absence of evidence is, objectively, foolish. It's also dangerous.


Biden has not blocked or delayed legitimate investigations into the 2020 election.

Everything you say is narrative. Nothing about it is interested in the truth of the matter. It's as if you assume that towing the DNC party line is the default condition of a human being.

 

[Lacius]

Yeah well, people think Seth Rich was thrown under the bus to prop the narrative of Russian meddling. Also, it should be acknowledged that a big part of how Russia "meddled" with the election is by exposing horrible truths about Clinton and the DNC. The truth can me meddling. Shame, that.

There is no excuse for a foreign power to meddle in our elections by, in part, hacking the emails of American citizens and selectively dumping the emails in misleading ways.

If you're going to defend Russian election meddling, all while baselessly claiming the 2020 election was rigged, you're a bigger political hack than I thought, and you should be laughed at so hard that you're effectively laughed off the forum. That's how embarrassed you should be.

Everything you say is narrative. Nothing about it is interested in the truth of the matter. It's as if you assume that towing the DNC party line is the default condition of a human being.

You accept the election was "probably" rigged despite lack of evidence, and you have just defended Russian meddling in the 2016 election. You do not care about truth, and you're an embarrassment.

 

[tabzer]

There is no excuse for a foreign power to meddle in our elections by hacking the emails of American citizens and selectively dumping the emails in misleading ways.

Russia can say whatever they want. But if they say something that is more honest than America's own politicians will admit, it makes America look like the embarrassment.

I also said that Seth Rich was widely believed to be the source, and not Russia.

I also said that there is evidence of a rigged election. Let's not pretend that you are representing my claim faithfully.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

Biden jas been blocking/delaying investigation

You are dumber than a glob of Vaseline and hair. You have zero evidence of that, and has already been pointed out, he is not even capable of that. He does not have that power.

 

[tabzer]

You are dumber than a glob of Vaseline and hair. You have zero evidence of that, and has already been pointed out, he is not even capable of that. He does not have that power.

And you have zero evidence of Trump losing 60+ cases. Case closed, goober.

 

[Lacius]

Russia can say whatever they want. But if they say something that is more honest than America's own politicians will admit, it makes America look like the embarrassment.

I suggest you educate yourself, because Russian meddling in the 2020 election wasn't limited to "Russia saying whatever they want." They hacked Americans, selectively dumped emails in misleading ways, and more. You're a political hack defending election meddling when it suits Republicans and decrying fake election meddling when it allegedly benefits Democrats. Delete your account and go away. Nobody is any better for having read your posts.

I also said that Seth Rich was widely believed to be the source, and not Russia.

Russia demonstrably meddled with the 2016 election. Nobody's interested in your conspiratorial nonsense, although I doubt anybody is surprised by it.

I also said that there is evidence of a rigged election. Let's not pretend that you are representing my claim faithfully.

There is no evidence of the 2020 election having been a rigged election.

 

[Cryoraptor]

The popular vote does not decide the president of the United states. Trump got less votes than Hillary in 2016.

Not what I'm talking about. 2 million votes dispersed throughout the country will not flip any states apart from maybe Georgia, but Biden isn't relying on Georgia anyway. He would still have 290 electoral college votes, ergo he still wins by 20.

Here's a question: Do you really think it would be fair and democratic for a candidate that lost by 5 million votes to still be declared the winner? Or do you think American politics need reform so the popular vote actually means something?

I don't think Trump "manufactured" the idea of rigged elections. He's using the consensus that already agrees to the existence of them as leverage to gain favor with his base. Trump is not as much of an inventor as he is a utilizer.

It doesn't matter what you think. It's an objective fact that he was the first to yell 'STOP THE COUNT' on twitter, and was also the first to mention anything about mail ballots. As you've previously demonstrated though, you suffer from Creationist Fallacy so your claims are automatically true and what you think is more important than what any evidence says.

the Biden campaign literally blocks any and all investigations that would look into the election and gather evidence

And how exactly is he meant to do that when he's not president yet?

Oh you mean like Russian hacking?

So you agree that your 'election rigging' nonsense is as idiotic as the claim that Russia is the reason Trump won in 2016?*

*Note: I'm not denying that Russia attempted to intefere, but that inteference was not the reason for Trump's victory. I'm not gonna defend Russia though considering its complete lack of respect for democracy and human rights.

I personally have trouble why people believe that the election was not rigged

I personally have trouble with your thought process. The burden of proof is on you to prove the claim you are making. Again, Creationist Fallacy.

 

[Darth Meteos]

@tabzer Do you hold even a single position that factual evidence will shift?
Like, even ONE

And you have zero evidence of Trump losing 60+ cases. Case closed, goober.

look at those goalposts fly
gotta go fast

 

[Lacius]

And you have zero evidence of Trump losing 60+ cases. Case closed, goober.

The Trump campaign has demonstrably lost approximately 60 lawsuits related to alleged election fraud.

 

[Cryoraptor]

And you have zero evidence of Trump losing 60+ cases. Case closed, goober.

Except that he did, you muppet. I'm starting to think that you're a Poe.

 

[D34DL1N3R]

And you have zero evidence of Trump losing 60+ cases. Case closed, goober.

You're so incredibly DUMB you failed special ed.

 

[Lacius]

You're so incredibly DUMB you failed special ed.

Please don't insult special needs students by comparing them to @tabzer.

 

[tabzer]

You're a political hack depending election meddling when it suits Republicans and decrying fake election meddling when it allegedly benefits Democrats.

First, there is a difference between your claim of "meddling" and fake ballots. "Meddling" includes a wide range activities that can be morally gray, innocent, or malicious. And if it is Seth Rich who was the source of the wikipedia leak, then you only have the DNC to blame.

Also, I can say as many times as you, that there is evidence, but you are constantly invested in denying it. You hate Trump that much.