Is Windows 10 really that bad?

[MegaGenesis]

Its been a while that i want to write a article about Windows 10 and its misconceptions for my blog, mainly about the update system. But i decided i can't just write anything based only on my user experience. So i decided to ask opinion from other W10 users - what do you guys think? I see W10 getting as much hate as Vista and 8/8.1, and in some aspect i agree, but my user experience has been great so far. Coming from Windows 7 Ultimate (which i used from 2012 to march 2018), i don't plan on going back. But i've been using it since April 2018 on a newly built PC. Due to the nature of PCs, the experience can change drasticaly from user to user, so tell me what you think about W10. Is it good, bad? How does it performs on your machine?

Btw: I'm running Windows 10 Pro build 16299.15 (1709/RS3)
Intel Pentium G4560 3,5 Ghz
8 GB DDR4 RAM Kingston (2x4 dual channel)
Nvidia GT 1030 2 GB GDDR5 from Galax (white board model)
Gigabyte H110M-S2PH
Storage: HDD Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 7200 RPM, model ST1000DM010-2EP102
PSU: Corsair CX450

Not the greatest machine, but gets the job done. Fast load times, super fast boot and shutdown times (5 sec max). Fast multitasking (Chrome with many tabs, Photoshop, Vegas Pro 13.0, or using emulator/playing PC game).

 

[bungboi]

I've used Windows 10 for quite a while after switching back and forth from 7 and 10. It's pretty enjoyable, but the first thing I do is download ShutUp10 and disable the data collection stuff. That shit is weird.

 

[orangy57]

i don't really care about the performance and i don't see much difference between like 10 and 7, honestly i'd say 10 feels a little bit more snappy when browsing, but it's just so clunky. I use windows 10 for my windows vr headset because it forces me to but if windows 7 had those abilities i'd gladly switch. Windows 10 just feels so bloated and chaotic with the fact that they try to get rid of the control panel and stuff, yet half of the settings just send you to a control panel directory anyway, making the ui just look like a mess.

 

[Deleted User]

the fact that you have to download a script to remove bloatware
and then if you want to use the xbox app it cant function without the bloatware

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

It has Cortana from halo.

 

[ThoD]

Only reason to NOT use Windows 7 is compatibility with newer software/hardware, so unless you got something too new to work on it or have HoloLens/other Microsoft headset that requires Windows 10 you are fine with a 100% functional and VERY ergonomical OS that can do everything you could want and more, while it also looks very simple, intuitive, sleek and is pretty light with a very good degree of backwards compatibility (even if 16bit mode was disabled, but it's easier to re-enable on Windows 7 than any other OS).

On the other hand, Windows 10 is a buggy broken mess, with occassional "updates" that if anything break compatibility with software/hardware if not introducing additional bugs on top, all while being full of bloatware just because Microsoft seems to care more about knowing everything you do rather than having a properly functioning OS and it's not even that simple or ergonomical either, looking like a Frankenstein's monster of an OS, having both Aero and Metro, with UIs that are a clusterfuck and if you want to find even the simplest of things, only fast way to do it is to use the search function for EVERYTHING, especially with how enormous the start menu gets after installing bunch of things and whatnot! Sure, you can tweak the UIs very slightly, but it's still bad, while on Windows 7 even the default layouts are very nice.

PS: On the note of Vista you mentioned in the OP, the reason Vista got hate was only for the Vista Service Pack 1, because it was possibly one of the worst OSs ever made for a couple reasons. It introduced THOUSANDS of exploitable bugs hackers could abuse with hardly any work, broke compatibility for MOST important programs, even Microsoft's own Office Suit, causing it to either not work or repeatedly asked you to purchase extra licenses even if you had just bought one, was the OS that stopped compatibility for 16bit software meaning literally NO backwards compatibility under any circumstance as "XP Mode" wasn't a thing until Service Pack 2 and so so SO many other problems! Then Service Pack 2 was shat out with plenty issues on it's own, but at least it fixed a bucketload of SP1's problems. However, the whole "Vista" thing was bad PR so Microsoft pushed Windows 7 ahead of schedule to save their stocks and hopefully make people forget about it (nobody did).

 

[Deleted User]

Only reason to NOT use Windows 7 is compatibility with newer software/hardware, so unless you got something too new to work on it or have HoloLens/other Microsoft headset that requires Windows 10 you are fine with a 100% functional and VERY ergonomical OS that can do everything you could want and more, while it also looks very simple, intuitive, sleek and is pretty light with a very good degree of backwards compatibility (even if 16bit mode was disabled, but it's easier to re-enable on Windows 7 than any other OS).

On the other hand, Windows 10 is a buggy broken mess, with occassional "updates" that if anything break compatibility with software/hardware if not introducing additional bugs on top, all while being full of bloatware just because Microsoft seems to care more about knowing everything you do rather than having a properly functioning OS and it's not even that simple or ergonomical either, looking like a Frankenstein's monster of an OS, having both Aero and Metro, with UIs that are a clusterfuck and if you want to find even the simplest of things, only fast way to do it is to use the search function for EVERYTHING, especially with how enormous the start menu gets after installing bunch of things and whatnot! Sure, you can tweak the UIs very slightly, but it's still bad, while on Windows 7 even the default layouts are very nice.

PS: On the note of Vista you mentioned in the OP, the reason Vista got hate was only for the Vista Service Pack 1, because it was possibly one of the worst OSs ever made for a couple reasons. It introduced THOUSANDS of exploitable bugs hackers could abuse with hardly any work, broke compatibility for MOST important programs, even Microsoft's own Office Suit, causing it to either not work or repeatedly asked you to purchase extra licenses even if you had just bought one, was the OS that stopped compatibility for 16bit software meaning literally NO backwards compatibility under any circumstance as "XP Mode" wasn't a thing until Service Pack 2 and so so SO many other problems! Then Service Pack 2 was shat out with plenty issues on it's own, but at least it fixed a bucketload of SP1's problems. However, the whole "Vista" thing was bad PR so Microsoft pushed Windows 7 ahead of schedule to save their stocks and hopefully make people forget about it (nobody did).

well explained.

 

[the_randomizer]

I haven't had any major issues with Windows 10. Yes, I have a few nitpicks (like those damned forced updates) and the fact that the icon cache refreshes, causing the pinned taskbar icons to flicker intermittently (unless that's been fixed?). I would be using Win 7 if that damn drivers didn't get corrupted, causing complete lockup during standby mode.

 

[PityOnU]

There were a lot of major back end improvements from Windows 7 to Windows 8(.1), and therefore Windows 10. Making the entire UI GPU accelerated was a big deal.

The changes to the front end, i.e. the UI, from Windows 7 to Windows 8 were also well thought out (you can look up the various research papers from Microsoft on Google Scholar related to UI ergonomics), but were universally rejected by users because Windows had looked and worked the same way for ~20 years, and nobody wanted to be bothered to learn a new interaction method. Thus is the nature of computer-human interaction.

For me, compared to Windows 8, Windows 10 is a huge step backwards, and is an example of Microsoft's developing (within the past 8 years or so) inability to follow through with its own internal goals.

 

[ELY_M]

I did big jump from windows xp to windows 10 around few years ago after someone on facebook sold me his pc for $200. It had windows 10 on it and I loved it. I updated the video card on it to GT 730 and added more usbs on it. I do not do pc gaming. I do 3D designs and stuff.

 

[Alexander_86]

i had today with a client with his lenovo laptop he had 4gb of ram i3 pentium but the windows 10 started very low so i did this: on msconfig i put more processors 2 and some memory 256mb and the laptop is fast now, if you use windows 7 don't change it.

the photos are from my pc but using 2 processors and some memory to start the windows faster is insane so KEEP WINDOWS 7

 

[Deleted User]

windows 10 taking 2 minutes to load a simple image is unacceptable

 

[MasterJ360]

So far im experiencing longer loading times with Google Chrome ever since I updated to Build 1803 of W10 via clean installation. So ultimately it made me switch to Firefox.
Is it bad? just depends what it affects that you personally like or use on a daily basis.

 

[Paolosworld]

Windows 10 isn't bad by any means.
It's still light-years better than macOS and (sorry) Linux.

The only reason why I am not too happy about it is because of the whole data collection thing.
I hate apple for pulling stuff like that but Microsoft did the same thing with windows 10.

So they kind shit the bed with that.

Also, there isn't any start menu ads bullshit with Windows 7.
I also heard that it's faster in a lot of ways. So there's that.

 

[MegaGenesis]

the fact that you have to download a script to remove bloatware
and then if you want to use the xbox app it cant function without the bloatware

I still don't get all these "bloatware" many people say W10 have. Sure, it has those Metro/UWP programs for default usage, like the new Calc app, and the Xbox app. They all start in the boot and "run" in the background, but you can disable all of them on the Privace options on Config Menu.

The changes to the front end, i.e. the UI, from Windows 7 to Windows 8 were also well thought out (you can look up the various research papers from Microsoft on Google Scholar related to UI ergonomics), but were universally rejected by users because Windows had looked and worked the same way for ~20 years, and nobody wanted to be bothered to learn a new interaction method. Thus is the nature of computer-human interaction.

Yea, i prefer the good old UI from the W7 and backwards. W10 tried to accomodate both users by having the two UIs(?). Like, they're the same programs, but not, because some have features that other don't. I barelly use the Config "app" because using the Control Panel is still much better.

The Start Menu i like. Not as good as 7's, but i like how they implemented the Tiles in it. Ofcourse i got rid of all those "live" tiles and ads, and with good organization they sure help a lot while sorting your installed programs.

Heck, even Cortana isn't so bad when you can disable her and make her into just a search engine button. Also, disabled all updates, never updated my W10. Just had to use gpedit once.

But the reasons i switched from W7 was because my old PC was already too old and was basically fried, so when i got a new PC i decided to try something new. My mom's Notebook came with W8 installed, and while i think its a ok OS, i never liked many of the design choices in that system, mainly the side menu and the Metro Programs. W10 resembled more classic Windows to me. Sorry, my experience with Windows dates back to 98, and my first PC came with XP, so couldn't stand the Metro UI. But thank you all for the responses.

 

[Deleted User]

I still don't get all these "bloatware" many people say W10 have. Sure, it has those Metro/UWP programs for default usage, like the new Calc app, and the Xbox app. They all start in the boot and "run" in the background, but you can disable all of them on the Privace options on Config Menu.



Yea, i prefer the good old UI from the W7 and backwards. W10 tried to accomodate both users by having the two UIs(?). Like, they're the same programs, but not, because some have features that other don't. I barelly use the Config "app" because using the Control Panel is still much better.

The Start Menu i like. Not as good as 7's, but i like how they implemented the Tiles in it. Ofcourse i got rid of all those "live" tiles and ads, and with good organization they sure help a lot while sorting your installed programs.

Heck, even Cortana isn't so bad when you can disable her and make her into just a search engine button. Also, disabled all updates, never updated my W10. Just had to use gpedit once.

But the reasons i switched from W7 was because my old PC was already too old and was basically fried, so when i got a new PC i decided to try something new. My mom's Notebook came with W8 installed, and while i think its a ok OS, i never liked many of the design choices in that system, mainly the side menu and the Metro Programs. W10 resembled more classic Windows to me. Sorry, my experience with Windows dates back to 98, and my first PC came with XP, so couldn't stand the Metro UI. But thank you all for the responses.

i only use the calc and xbox app, but removing the bloatware makes the xbox app unusable because it errors out

 

[Kioku]

Only reason to NOT use Windows 7 is compatibility with newer software/hardware, so unless you got something too new to work on it or have HoloLens/other Microsoft headset that requires Windows 10 you are fine with a 100% functional and VERY ergonomical OS that can do everything you could want and more, while it also looks very simple, intuitive, sleek and is pretty light with a very good degree of backwards compatibility (even if 16bit mode was disabled, but it's easier to re-enable on Windows 7 than any other OS).

On the other hand, Windows 10 is a buggy broken mess, with occassional "updates" that if anything break compatibility with software/hardware if not introducing additional bugs on top, all while being full of bloatware just because Microsoft seems to care more about knowing everything you do rather than having a properly functioning OS and it's not even that simple or ergonomical either, looking like a Frankenstein's monster of an OS, having both Aero and Metro, with UIs that are a clusterfuck and if you want to find even the simplest of things, only fast way to do it is to use the search function for EVERYTHING, especially with how enormous the start menu gets after installing bunch of things and whatnot! Sure, you can tweak the UIs very slightly, but it's still bad, while on Windows 7 even the default layouts are very nice.

PS: On the note of Vista you mentioned in the OP, the reason Vista got hate was only for the Vista Service Pack 1, because it was possibly one of the worst OSs ever made for a couple reasons. It introduced THOUSANDS of exploitable bugs hackers could abuse with hardly any work, broke compatibility for MOST important programs, even Microsoft's own Office Suit, causing it to either not work or repeatedly asked you to purchase extra licenses even if you had just bought one, was the OS that stopped compatibility for 16bit software meaning literally NO backwards compatibility under any circumstance as "XP Mode" wasn't a thing until Service Pack 2 and so so SO many other problems! Then Service Pack 2 was shat out with plenty issues on it's own, but at least it fixed a bucketload of SP1's problems. However, the whole "Vista" thing was bad PR so Microsoft pushed Windows 7 ahead of schedule to save their stocks and hopefully make people forget about it (nobody did).

This is highly subjective. Windows 10 is fine for any use. The ONLY reason(s) you'd stick to windows 7?

You're comfortable with your setup, and you don't feel a need to upgrade.

You're running a piece of outdated software that doesn't support Windows 10.

You're paranoid the data they're collecting will be used against you.

You just don't care to upgrade.

After going back and forth between 7 and 10? The headaches involved with former were worse. After getting settled in I'd see 40% of my RAM being used by various tasks whereas 10 would never go above 20 with the same. Saying you shouldn't use Windows 10 because of 'x' reason is borderline mental. Giving your opinion as to why you don't like it? That's entirely fine.

I've never had any issues with Windows 10. Even the bloatware stayed away after Uninstalling it. Aside from Skype. That annoyed me.

 

[Paolosworld]

You're comfortable with your setup, and you don't feel a need to upgrade.

Yeah, I feel like the biggest reason why Windows 7 is preferred by me is just because I spent far more time with it and know the ins and outs better than Windows 10.
Even though windows 10 objectively has better features and support, Windows 7 feels so much more familiar and malleable to me.

I also really like Windows 7 because it felt like a straight upgrade from Windows XP.
On the other hand, Windows 8 felt like a mobile phone OS more than a computer OS. which is why I never bothered moving on from Windows 7.
And now that I plan to build a new PC for myself, it's going to be very painful trying to learn the ropes of Windows 10.

 

[MasterJ360]

If you really want the Windows 7 look there are ways to get that feel again as a custom Windows 10. "Start Menu is back for Win10 /OldNewExplorer (Win7 UI)"

Spoiler: Example of my setup

 

[Paolosworld]

If you really want the Windows 7 look there are ways to get that feel again as a custom Windows 10. "Start Menu is back for Win10 /OldNewExplorer (Win7 UI)"

Spoiler: Example of my setup

Thanks mate.
The second I get my computer the first thing I'll install is this.
Next will be all the rest of the anti-windows 10 shit, like the anti-data sharing stuff.

Also lol that desktop background is so stretched out it took me a while to understand what it was. (Still cool though)