London Terror attack.

[Stercate79]

So, according to you, I don't deserve to be French because my parents are born in Morocco. Yeah, fine. I don't even know how to speak Arabic, and I was born in Paris and alwas lived there. And my father certainly talks English and French way better than anyone from French/American origins.

It's called Jus Soli, and thankfully here where i live it doesn't apply anymore. Btw in my opinion no, you have to aquire it after a long time. Just my opinion.

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

Back on topic, 100% security is not achievable. At any time a random human peiece of poo can decide to take a gun and kill random people. IMO, ISIS terrorists aren't radicalized or anything. They just are stupid people, dumb enough to trust into a violent and Nazi ideology that 2 or 3 idiots tried to justify with nonsensical Quran quotes.

 

[deinonychus71]

BULLSHIT, every attack in Europe has been commited by yes NATIVE citiziens, but with african/middle east origins, because in France and Germany there is that terrible law called "Jus Soli", which if you were born in that country you automatically get the citizienship. And no i'm not an extremist or a far right supporter

You really don't get it do you?

These people are born in Europe. What are you gonna do? Burn them all because a minority of them are assholes? Send them back to a random country they've never been to? Build a wall around them?

How is that possible that people forget so easily our common history, and why making assumption based on race or religion lead to abominations?

The refugees, while possibly having in their ranks some potential terrorists, are used as the one big black sheep everyone blames. Enough of that.
I got someone else to blame: G.W. Bush for the Iraq disaster.

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

It's called Jus Soli, and thankfully here where i live it doesn't apply anymore. Btw in my opinion no, you have to aquire it after a long time. Just my opinion.

Jus Soli isn't always automatic. Either you become French semi-automatically because your mate is French, and still you must ask it, either you become French at 13, 16 or 18 if you are born in France from non-French parents. You can also become French after x years by naturalization, but that's the usuall way like in the US I guess.

 

[G0R3Z]

Back on topic, 100% security is not achievable. At any time a random human peiece of poo can decide to take a gun and kill random people. IMO, ISIS terrorists aren't radicalized or anything. They just are stupid people, dumb enough to trust into a violent and Nazi ideology that 2 or 3 idiots tried to justify with nonsensical Quran quotes.

Not much different than what christians do to justify their actions.

It's a horrible occurrence, but I've got to put it to the police, they put it together really damn quick. I mean, they were there in minutes.

 

[Stercate79]

You really don't get it do you?

These people are born in Europe. What are you gonna do? Burn them all because a minority of them are assholes?

How is that possible that people forget so easily our common history, and why making assumption based on race or religion lead to abominations?

The refugees, while possibly having in their ranks some potential terrorists, are used as the one big black sheep everyone blames. Enough of that.
I got someone else to blame: G.W. Bush for the Iraq disaster.

What are you talking about?

 

[sarkwalvein]

Actually, Jus Soli is only automatic in the American continent, specially in the USA.
Not that I condone it, but in Europe there is no automatic Jus Soli.

But again, the main problem here is education, and America lacks it in a base level.
With all the cases of crazy people getting guns and killing people around every couple years I really don't know how they don't put the "extremist" label over them... Oh, perhaps because these people are too white, so they need another label, I know, it's "violent videogames" (like in 1999)... No it isn't, the problem always was poor education.

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

What are you talking about?

GW Bush destroyed the Iraqi govt. in 2003 to give power to an ethnical minority. This lack of political power in the country led to ISIS installing easily.
BTW, several terrorists who get arrested aren't even from Arab origins, if that's what you mean. Yeah, 'real' natives, Caucasian, all the shit.

 

[Stercate79]

GW Bush destroyed the Iraqi govt. in 2003 to give power to an ethnical minority. This lack of political power in the country led to ISIS installing easily.
BTW, several terrorists who get arrested aren't even from Arab origins, if that's what you mean. Yeah, 'real' natives, Caucasian, all the shit.

I already know that, Bush and the Arab Spring literally destroyed the peace in the Arab World, then?

 

[Pacheko17]

1st of im atheist. so lets get that straight.

but is anyone saying this done by someone by the islam faith?

looks like a loony done this.

It was a muslim and ISIS claimed responsibility.

When will we just nuke this religion of war and terror off the planet? Western society shall do anything to end it's biggest threats and ally with those who have common sense and a will to progress.

 

[StarTrekVoyager]

It was a muslim and ISIS claimed responsibility.

When will we just nuke this religion of war and terror off the planet? Western society shall do anything to end it's biggest threats and ally with those who have common sense and a willing to progress.

Yeah, of course. Let's exterminate Germans because Nazis, Americans because Indian massacres, Hispanics because Inca and Aztec massacres, Italians because catholic vs protestant massacres, etc. Quran is nothing else than New and Old Testaments with details changed man.

 

[MopSec]

It was a muslim and ISIS claimed responsibility.

When will we just nuke this religion of war and terror off the planet? Western society shall do anything to end it's biggest threats and ally with those who have common sense and a will to progress.

You want to kill off every single person belonging to a specific religion.

People said that before, you know, and we call them Nazis now.

- Sincerely, a German.

 

[sarkwalvein]

It was a muslim and ISIS claimed responsibility.

When will we just nuke this religion of war and terror off the planet? Western society shall do anything to end it's biggest threats and ally with those who have common sense and a willing to progress.

Never, have you forgot Saudi Arabia is the biggest associate of the west, a horrible place to live if you are not in the highest class, but the Kings that govern the economic system and banks of the west. Please, learn 2 western hypocresy already, you can't fall so easy for the narrative.

 

[G0R3Z]

Didn't think anyone seriously thinks "let's nuke them all". I believe the Nazis did that once because of their ideals..how did that go back in WW2?

 

[MopSec]

Didn't think anyone seriously thinks "let's nuke them all". I believe the Nazis did that once because of their ideals..how did that go back in WW2?

I don't believe he really thinks that. He's only saying it because it's cool and edgy thing to say these days. Fucking scum.

 

[Pacheko17]

Yeah, of course. Let's exterminate Germans because Nazis, Americans because Indian massacres, Hispanics because Inca and Aztec massacres, Italians because catholic vs protestant massacres, etc. Quran is nothing else than New and Old Testaments with details changed man.

You want to kill off every single person belonging to a specific religion.

People said that before, you know, and we call them Nazis now.

- Sincerely, a German.

I might have phrased myself wrongly, I don't want muslims to die, I want the religion to die along with its extremists.
"Moderate" islam often leads to extremism, it's just how it works and they gave us more than enough proof of that.
It's in the root of their dangerous ideology to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them, it's like any other evil ideology but 10 times worse.

Never, have you forgot Saudi Arabia is the biggest associate of the west, a horrible place to live if you are not in the highest class, but the Kings that govern the economic system and banks of the west. Please, learn 2 western hypocresy already, you can't fall so easy for the narrative.

Saudi Arabia is the biggest associate of leftist scum, the ones who accept money from them and then go on trying to fight for equality are the true hypocrites.
Hillary claimed to want equality but most of her help came from a country that stones women to death for the smallest things.
We can survive without Saudi Arabia and Trump will prove that to be true.

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I don't believe he really thinks that. He's only saying it because it's cool and edgy thing to say these days. Fucking scum.

"Fucking scum"
Says the cuck.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Saudi Arabia is the biggest associate of leftist scum, the ones who accept money from them and then go on trying to fight for equality are the true hypocrites.
Hillary claimed to want equality but most of her help came from a country that stones women to death for the smallest things.
We can survive without Saudi Arabia and Trump will prove that to be true.

Not at all. It is the biggest associate of the leftist and the rightist scum. All around. The associates of capitalism.
Germany runs on Saudi Arabia's money.
Volkswagen, Deutsche Bank, etc. They all run on their money and investments.
And it is not a thing from Germany. It is the same in all the western world.
They were the biggest associates of G.W. Bush... research a little...
Everybody lies to you, the scum is both in the left and the right, don't be blinded.
PS: I suppose you are to young... you will learn in time, everybody lies.

 

[Jhyrachy]

Joke aside, the problem is that "moderate" muslim almost never condemn the action, because they can't.
What these terrorists are doing is exactly what's it's written in their religious text.

Islam must be receive a radical change of doctrine to become compatible with modern daylife

 

[G0R3Z]

Saudi Arabia is the biggest associate of leftist scum, the ones who accept money from them and then go on trying to fight for equality are the true hypocrites.
Hillary claimed to want equality but most of her help came from a country that stones women to death for the smallest things.
We can survive without Saudi Arabia and Trump will prove that to be true.

Don't make it about 'left' or 'right'. Everyone puts up with Saudi Arabia. EVERYONE. Only because they control so much wealth and resources. If they had no oil, everyone would condemn them straight away. I'm leftist and Saudi Arabia's Politics disgust me to no end. Absolutely horrible male dominated culture.

 

[Pacheko17]

PS: I suppose you are to young... you will learn in time, everybody lies.

If everybody lies, who shall I trust?
It seems all media these days are biased.
I just believe in whatever proved to be good for me. Brazil was under socialism for most of my life, and while we haven't got rid of it entirely, things have just gotten so much better. I don't have to save money for food now, it's just what worked for me...

Islam must be receive a radical change of doctrine to become compatible with modern daylife

This. Unfortunately it probably won't happen.

Don't make it about 'left' or 'right'. Everyone puts up with Saudi Arabia. EVERYONE. Only because they control so much wealth and resources. If they had no oil, everyone would condemn them straight away. I'm leftist and Saudi Arabia's Politics disgust me to no end. Absolutely horrible male dominated culture.

I don't know if that's gonna keep on going for long.
I doubt the saudis will last much longer.