How to prevent RATs?

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Im using 7, but i might upgrade to 10

Eeewww! (sorry)


In the meantime, get yourself a crapware-free Unlocker, so you could try to get rid of the rat executable.
Installation: next, accept, skip, decline, skip (while there's crapware, and always decline!), and if you skipped'n'declined all the shit it's bundled with, it should ask for install location, continue the installation as usual from there.
Usage: after you rebooted, rightclick on the rat executable, ->unlocker ->accept the UAC prompt -> select "delete" from the dropdown list -> click on kill all / OK

Btw, I found this on M$'s site. Set the network mode to "public".
 
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Yes.

I assume you're using Win8:
- Click on the network icon on the taskbar
- On the right sidebar richt-click your connection, enable/disable sharing, No, I don't turn it on (for public places)
So as long as I never download anythng fron an untrusted source, he won't be able to work with what he has? (My IP and a rat in a local pc)
 

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So as long as I never download anythng fron an untrusted source, he won't be able to work with what he has? (My IP and a rat in a local pc)

Idk, sorry :(
But you should exit/disable most of the programs that open a port to the internet (okay, you can't disable the browser, 'cuz you need to 'temp somehow :P)

Btw, have you tried rebooting your modem/router(s)? Here our ISP forces a modem reboot every 4hours, forcing a netreset, and gives the modem a new IP address.
 
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Idk, sorry :(
But you should exit/disable most of the programs that open a port to the internet (okay, you can't disable the browser, 'cuz you need to 'temp somehow :P)

Btw, have you tried rebooting your modem/router(s)? Here our ISP forces a modem reboot every 4hours, forcing a netreset, and gives the modem a new IP address.
Hopefully someone else knows

It doesn't help, ip is always the same
 

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So as long as I never download anythng fron an untrusted source, he won't be able to work with what he has? (My IP and a rat in a local pc)

Okay, I understand it now.

If you get rid of the rat, disable suspicious apps/services, set the network mode to "public" (ergo, disable all file- and printer(device) sharing), enable Windows firewall, and get a normal antivirus (what AV do you use?), you should be temporarly safe.
 
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Okay, I understand it now.

If you get rid of the rat, disable suspicious apps/services, set the network mode to "public" (ergo, disable all file- and printer(device) sharing), enable Windows firewall, and get a normal antivirus (what AV do you use?), you should be temporarly safe.
I use avast. The word temporarily scares me, because he's a retarded kid whos been doing this for 3 years.
 

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I use avast.

Welp, it's time to change. Nowdays' avast is not as good as its older versions were :(
Again, I'm not advertising, it's personal experience, I'm using NOD32. It's as good as it's better variant, you only need the better variant (ESET Smart Security) if you are *really* paranoid, but I assume you aren't.

(or you can pirate it, but I won't discuss it in the public :P)

Also, could you please post your service and autostart list?
Run cmd as an admin, and run the following:
Code:
echo ========[LOGGED IN]======== > idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && net view >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && echo ========[STARTUP PROGRAMS]======== >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && wmic startup get >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && echo ========[SERVICES]======== >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && sc queryex type= service state= all >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && explorer /select,idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt
It should create an idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt file. Before you send it to me, make sure to censor everything you want, then send it to me/this thread, and I'll look into it. It'll be a big file (~89kb for me) containing alot of service names'n'stuff.
 
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Welp, it's time to change. Nowdays' avast is not as good as its older versions were :(
Again, I'm not advertising, it's personal experience, I'm using NOD32. It's as good as it's better variant, you only need the better variant (ESET Smart Security) if you are *really* paranoid, but I assume you aren't.

(or you can pirate it, but I won't discuss it in the public :P)

Also, could you please post your service and autostart list?
Run cmd as an admin, and run the following:
Code:
echo ========[LOGGED IN]======== > idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && net view >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && echo ========[STARTUP PROGRAMS]======== >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && wmic startup get >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && echo ========[SERVICES]======== >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && sc queryex type= service state= all >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && explorer /select,idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt
It should create an idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt file. Before you send it to me, make sure to censor everything you want, then send it to me/this thread, and I'll look into it. It'll be a big file (~89kb for me) containing alot of service names'n'stuff.
I have nothing worth censoring. Im going to try NOD32 after i format

Ill send the log when I get on my pc.
 

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For security purposes, use Adblock Plus, uBlock Origin, or equivalent. Use decent adblocking filters (EasyList, EasyPrivacy, Fanboy's Annoyances, Disable Malware, etc). Whitelist sites you trust if you want to support them (or consider a small donation instead if they have that option). Consider getting the element hider addon for ABP (or an equivalent feature for whatever you use), it's really useful. The shortcut to use it is ctrl-shift-F3 by default.
Consider using something like NoScript or equivalent and only whitelisting sites you trust
Failing that, at minimum, use an addon that blocks Flash until you click on it (Flashblock for Firefox, Chrome probably has something similar, you can accomplish this in IE by going into plugin settings and deleting the * entry from Flash's whitelist) and whitelist sites you trust that use Flash frequently (like YouTube)
Keep your browser up to date
If you have Java on your system, keep it up to date, disable any browser addons for it, and go into the settings and make sure it isn't set to be able to run from the browser. Also, up the security settings on it. Highly recommended: remove it entirely if you don't need it. I took it off my system a long time ago, the only extremely common application I know of that uses it is Minecraft, but I think there might be other builds of it that don't require Java. If you use SocketPunch, consider FalconPuncher instead.
If you have Flash on your system, keep it up to date. If you don't power off your computer frequently, check at least once a week for updates (on Windows, Control Panel -> System and Security -> Flash -> Updates -> Check Now). I would say remove it if possible, but there are an awful lot of sites that still use it and I like my Flash games.
If you use Adobe Reader, keep that up to date. If you use an alternative PDF reader, keep it up to date, but it's probably less likely to be an issue. You might want to consider using one of these alternatives if you don't do heavy work with PDFs; I like SumatraPDF, personally.
Keep Microsoft Office or whatever equivalent you use up to date. If you're using office software that no longer receives updates, consider switching to LibreOffice.
Be timely with your operating system updates, don't put them off forever. Don't use a version of Windows that no longer receives updates, or at least don't use it connected to the internet or outside of a virtual machine.
Use a decent free anti-virus (e.g., Avira)
Don't run executables that don't come from sources you deem sufficiently trustworthy
If you must run such an executable, consider doing it with a program like Sandboxie or inside of a virtual machine
Learn what your anti-virus' and browser's warning screens look like. If you ever get a warning screen that doesn't match one of these, close it. If you can't close it, don't click anything, kill the process (in Windows, task manager -> processes -> firefox.exe/chrome.exe/iexplore.exe) and don't recover that page when you start your browser back up.
For installers bundled with crapware, there's usually a way to bypass installing it, but it's almost never obvious. Sometimes they put the button to bypass it in the wrong place or label it something weird, sometimes they force you to hit "advanced options" and check or uncheck a box, etc. Use your head. Don't use programs with these kinds of installers if you have other reasonable options, though.
Keep UAC on. At least have it on the second-to-highest setting. For programs that don't play well with UAC, try running them as administrator or in compatibility mode for Windows XP. Failing that, install the program to a folder in your user directory (e.g., "C:\Users\yourname\Apps").

If you get infected, Malwarebytes is pretty good at getting stuff out that regular anti-virus software has issues with. If you're infected with something specific, look up specific removal instructions for it. Frequently, someone like Kaspersky or Symantec will have a tool that removes it altogether, other times there are specific instructions that tell you exactly what you need to do to get it off.
 
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Welp, it's time to change. Nowdays' avast is not as good as its older versions were :(
Again, I'm not advertising, it's personal experience, I'm using NOD32. It's as good as it's better variant, you only need the better variant (ESET Smart Security) if you are *really* paranoid, but I assume you aren't.

(or you can pirate it, but I won't discuss it in the public :P)

Also, could you please post your service and autostart list?
Run cmd as an admin, and run the following:
Code:
echo ========[LOGGED IN]======== > idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && net view >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && echo ========[STARTUP PROGRAMS]======== >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && wmic startup get >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && echo ========[SERVICES]======== >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && sc queryex type= service state= all >> idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt && explorer /select,idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt
It should create an idklol_report_svc_autostart.txt file. Before you send it to me, make sure to censor everything you want, then send it to me/this thread, and I'll look into it. It'll be a big file (~89kb for me) containing alot of service names'n'stuff.
Done:
http://pastebin.com/GiXBR8vG
also uploaded to post.
 

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If he has your IP and wants to get you, he will get you. I recommend closing all ports and only opening one by one as you start using programs that need then. Even then, unless you have a good firewall, it's kinda hard to prevent someone from entering your network.

First things first, on your router I recommend you change the default user/password info that comes with it.
 

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If he has your IP and wants to get you, he will get you. I recommend closing all ports and only opening one by one as you start using programs that need then. Even then, unless you have a good firewall, it's kinda hard to prevent someone from entering your network.

First things first, on your router I recommend you change the default user/password info that comes with it.
I need to at least get my PC working. I can't enter BIOS.
 

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It worked but now in getting something about bad sectors
Boot from USB, wipe disk, then reinstall everything. Don't try to recover anything from the disk. If you have a backup that you know was made before you got the malware, use that.
 

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Boot from USB, wipe disk, then reinstall everything. Don't try to recover anything from the disk. If you have a backup that you know was made before you got the malware, use that.
The same thing is happening with my bios again. I can't get into it. It fixed it one time, but it's not fixed anymorr.
 

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The same thing is happening with my bios again. I can't get into it. It fixed it one time, but it's not fixed anymorr.
Reset the BIOS again by removing the CMOS battery. Go back into the BIOS before doing anything else, change the boot order so that USB devices boot first. Wipe your hard drive completely. Use fdisk or whatever relevant tool needed to reinitialize the drive. Don't attempt to boot into the drive until it has been wiped and reinitialized. Once that's done, reinstall Windows or Linux or whatever on it.
 

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