Homebrew Retroarch Emulation Thread (Nightly Builds Included)

[mungry]

I'm not sure what do you mean ?
you are aware of the resolution of the 3ds and its pixels size, right ?

When you run a rom at its native size it looks clean and accurate. When you change its size to become bigger or adjust to a full screen it isn't at its native size anymore. The problem is that with bilinear filtering off (if you upscale any rom from its native size you will always want this off, otherwise it will be a blurry mess) the upscaling is very poor. (Inaccurate pixels, just a mess, very unappealing to the eye). I've used retroarch on my iPad to play gba games and the upscaling is crisp and clean. What I'm trying to get at here is why is the upscaling on the 3DS on retroarch so poor? I would think it would be a priority unless it just isn't possible. So maybe one of the devs (@aliaspider please?) could provide an answer?

 

[Seita]

When you run a rom at its native size it looks clean and accurate. When you change its size to become bigger or adjust to a full screen it isn't at its native size anymore. The problem is that with bilinear filtering off (if you upscale any rom from its native size you will always want this off, otherwise it will be a blurry mess) the upscaling is very poor. (Inaccurate pixels, just a mess, very unappealing to the eye). I've used retroarch on my iPad to play gba games and the upscaling is crisp and clean. What I'm trying to get at here is why is the upscaling on the 3DS on retroarch so poor? I would think it would be a priority unless it just isn't possible. So maybe one of the devs (@aliaspider please?) could provide an answer?

No. Upscaling works great on my iPad using retroarch gba. It should work well for N3ds,too.

 

[mungry]

No. Upscaling works great on my iPad using retroarch gba.

No to what?
And I'm sorry but did you even read this:

I've used retroarch on my iPad to play gba games and the upscaling is crisp and clean

It should work well for N3ds,too.

Yes, this is what I'm getting at, there should be clean upscaling on the 3DS with retroarch.
Frankly I don't understand the reason for your reply.

 

[Deleted User]

When you run a rom at its native size it looks clean and accurate. When you change its size to become bigger or adjust to a full screen it isn't at its native size anymore. The problem is that with bilinear filtering off (if you upscale any rom from its native size you will always want this off, otherwise it will be a blurry mess) the upscaling is very poor. (Inaccurate pixels, just a mess, very unappealing to the eye). I've used retroarch on my iPad to play gba games and the upscaling is crisp and clean. What I'm trying to get at here is why is the upscaling on the 3DS on retroarch so poor? I would think it would be a priority unless it just isn't possible. So maybe one of the devs (@aliaspider please?) could provide an answer?

Upscaling is poor because the 3DS's resolution is poor. Pixels cannot be scaled to a clean multiple.

 

[mungry]

Upscaling is poor because the 3DS's resolution is poor. Pixels cannot be scaled to a clean multiple.

So essentially if you want the cleanest, and crispest emulation we will just have to stick with native on the 3DS? Pretty upscaling is basically not possible?

 

[Deleted User]

So essentially if you want the cleanest, and crispest emulation we will just have to stick with native on the 3DS? Pretty upscaling is basically not possible?

Not without filtering, as far as I know. There are some nicer filters, like the scale2x option implemented in GameYob, but they are more CPU intensive, and frame rates would take a big hit.

 

[Azel]

the 8/16 bits systems you're probably considering run in the 200-256 lines (high) range, the process you're considering is multiplying those by and integer nunber and displaying them on the right amount of lines :
the 3DS screen displays 240 lines, the latest iPad Pro has 2048 lines.

it's physically impossible.

your problem here is that those pixels are HUGE, especially on the XL.

that being said, on the XL, it's like there's some natural scanlines, I don't really need upscaling, those pixels look 1:1.
(but width can be a problem, because game devs were taking into account that thos games where going to be displayed on 4:3 CRT tvs anyways, so in some systems, pixel were never design to be displayed as "squares", problem is on lcds (and by extension, the 3DS, pixels are square)

 

[NaokiKitsuhine]

has pocketsnes core been released? O.o
I can't find it anywhere

 

[Seriel]

Hey.

How good is GBA emulation on an O3DS now? I don't have one anymore.

 

[ShadowOne333]

has pocketsnes core been released? O.o
I can't find it anywhere

PocketSNES hasn't been officially added yet, although you can find the 3DSX and CIA betas a page or two back.
I wish it was in there but give it some time

 

[NaokiKitsuhine]

PocketSNES hasn't been officially added yet, although you can find the 3DSX and CIA betas a page or two back.
I wish it was in there but give it some time

Oh, ok, i'm gonna search, thank you ^^

 

[ShadowOne333]

Oh, ok, i'm gonna search, thank you ^^

Here you go.

The 3DSX version:

http://buildbot.libretro.com/.aliaspider/pocketsnes_libretro_fix1.3dsx

And the CIA version:

http://buildbot.libretro.com/.aliaspider/pocketsnes_libretro_fix1.cia

 

[NaokiKitsuhine]

Here you go.

The 3DSX version:


And the CIA version:

hehe, thank you
already found by myself but thanks anyway ^^

 

[Clydefrosch]

So essentially if you want the cleanest, and crispest emulation we will just have to stick with native on the 3DS? Pretty upscaling is basically not possible?

basically, the reason it looks so crisp on your ipad is that it has such a h

Hey.

How good is GBA emulation on an O3DS now? I don't have one anymore.

basically unplayable. 20, rarely 30 fps and less on the more demanding games.

 

[NekoMichi]

When you run a rom at its native size it looks clean and accurate. When you change its size to become bigger or adjust to a full screen it isn't at its native size anymore. The problem is that with bilinear filtering off (if you upscale any rom from its native size you will always want this off, otherwise it will be a blurry mess) the upscaling is very poor. (Inaccurate pixels, just a mess, very unappealing to the eye). I've used retroarch on my iPad to play gba games and the upscaling is crisp and clean. What I'm trying to get at here is why is the upscaling on the 3DS on retroarch so poor? I would think it would be a priority unless it just isn't possible. So maybe one of the devs (@aliaspider please?) could provide an answer?

Upscaling without bilinear filtering works better on iPad because the Retina Display has so many more pixels packed at a higher density so it doesn't matter if the scaling isn't a perfect integer value. Unfortunately the 3DS doesn't have that luxury.

 

[Krusiv]

Recently updated from 10.2 -> 10.3 as an Ironhax user on O3DS. Do I just need to get the most recent build of QuickNES etc from the Nightly to get them to work again? Now they load onto a black screen. Previously working on 10.2/2.5

 

[aliaspider]

pce_fast should be working again for .3dsx users.
http://buildbot.libretro.com/.aliaspider/2015-11-11_RetroArch_3dsx.7z

 

[Sizednochi]

Tried out PocketSNES on O3DS as .cia. Pretty slows till, 40fps on Mario World. Oh well. At least we have blargSNES, which is still being worked on.

 

[Azel]

Recently updated from 10.2 -> 10.3 as an Ironhax user on O3DS. Do I just need to get the most recent build of QuickNES etc from the Nightly to get them to work again? Now they load onto a black screen. Previously working on 10.2/2.5

get the latest starter.zip from the op, and reinstall ironhax...

 

[Krusiv]

get the latest starter.zip from the op, and reinstall ironhax...

Yes I did that. Updated my Ironhax payloads and now the retroarch stuff loads to a black screen. I'm asking if there is a fix for this or do I just need to be patient?