Hacking Will the Homebrew thing be able to run N64, PSP, or PS1 games?

[emmanu888]

Think of it as baby steps. First the 8-bit emulators like the Master System and the NES. Then the 16-bit emulators like the SNES and the Genesis. Then 32-bit and so on.

 

[duffmmann]

PSP: Hell no.
N64: Possibly. I may need some overclocking but the 3DS's CPU has better architecture than most ARM11 devices(multi-core, L2 cache, etc).
PS1: Obviously that would run no problem.

There is no guarantee of this whatsoever.

People, don't expect the world because the 3DS can be hacked now. Realistically, in terms of emulation, look forward to 16-bit consoles/handhelds and earlier: Snes, NES, GB/C/A, Genesis, Master System, Game Gear, TurboGraphx 16, Lynx, oldschool atari systems, and maybe virtual boy(maybe even in stereoscopic 3d at that), but I wouldn't hope for much more beyond that in terms of emulation. Having said that, I look forward to being able to play such emulators on my 3DS. November 22nd, can't come soon enough!

 

[Pippin666]

Emu dev are usually too lazy to do code proper ram management. Otherwise it would be very possible.

Pip'

 

[SLiV3R]

Ps vita is equally great as the 3ds. Too bad for ppl that miss the vita. Its your loss

None of above will run perfectly. The psp couldnt even emulate snes in a decent way. How could 3ds emulate 32/64 bits consoles then? Im looking forward to genesis, virtual boy, neo geo and pcengine.

 

[MyJoyConRunsHot]

Because its a good deal more poweful?

 

[duffmmann]

Because its a good deal more poweful?

So? Many things are quite a bit more powerful than the Sega Saturn, but due to that system's odd architecture, it still struggles to be properly emulated.

The same goes for the 64DD and CDi

 

[Enigma Hall]

Wait for UDS be released first guy.

 

[DinohScene]

PS1.. possible, seeing DSTwo can run PSX games in DSTwo linux.
N64.... Well.... it might be possible, PSP ran it as well.
PSP games, no, get a PSP, their cheap and easy to hack.

 

[the_randomizer]

GBA, Snes, GBC, Genesis/Megadrive, hell, all 8-bit-, 16-bit and even some 32-bit systems should be plausible. It's when you get to 64-bit is when you'll run into trouble. Translating 64-bit MIPS instruction into 32-bit ARM instructions is where things might get a bit hairy, esp. given the clock speed. You can have all the cores in the world and not make a lick of different if emulators don't take advantage of said cores.

 

[TecXero]

Considering the PSP and 3DS are nearly identical in overall specs, the 3DS will never be able to emulate the PSP. N64? Probably, but it would take a lot of work and probably wouldn't be much better than DaedalusX64 for the PSP. Now the PS1, I'm positive we'll see a decent emulator for it.

That said, you'll have to be patient, generally it takes a few years for people to figure out coding for a closed system like the 3DS. The more advanced emulators probably won't be playable until towards the end of the 3DS's commercial life.

 

[eggsample]

Will the Homebrew thing be able to run N64, PSP, or PS1 games?
Emulators?
I know that it'll do region locking bypassing, but this is my next interest. I know the Wii was able to do N64 and PS1, but I don't think it did PSP.

Yes but not on 3ds.

 

[ndstuff]

3ds isn't even capable of proper gba/sens emulation unless you count terrible speedhack emus, frameskipping and completely ruined audio. Also, forget about psx since there's no open source emu that could be used for a base and nobody is going to bother to write a JIT dynarec for that. It's a tremendous amount of work. N64 isn't even properly emulated on the HLE level so that goal is even more unreal.

 

[Oxybelis]

PS1.. possible, seeing DSTwo can run PSX games in DSTwo linux.
N64.... Well.... it might be possible, PSP ran it as well.
PSP games, no, get a PSP, their cheap and easy to hack.

No. 3DS won't be able to emulate PS1, N64 at fullspeed.
PSP, DSTwo has MIPS CPU like PS1 and N64, 3DS is ARM.

 

[PewnyPL]

3ds isn't even capable of proper gba/sens emulation unless you count terrible speedhack emus, frameskipping and completely ruined audio.

You are forgetting, that we have a very incomplete 3DS libs yet, homebrew is not using 3DS's full power. A lot of stuff those emulators are doing by themselves, could probably be handled much faster by some syscall of 3DS.

 

[PewnyPL]

No. 3DS won't be able to emulate PS1, N64 at fullspeed.
PSP, DSTwo has MIPS CPU like PS1 and N64, 3DS is ARM.

PS1 may be possible. Again, there is at least one PC emulator (CVGS) that ran on hardware as low as Pentium Pro 200MHz (I personally tested it on P2 400MHz) at full speeds no problem. And Pentium is x86, not MIPS, not to mention that it's overall performance was lower than the ARM in 3DS.

 

[DinohScene]

No. 3DS won't be able to emulate PS1, N64 at fullspeed.
PSP, DSTwo has MIPS CPU like PS1 and N64, 3DS is ARM.

Stranger things have happened.
Look at Daedalus64.

 

[happydance]

why is it perfectly fine to pirate other console roms? is an emulator homebrew the only homebrew to look forward to? most emulator works better on pc/android device... so I'm looking forward to something different

 

[TecXero]

Stranger things have happened.
Look at Daedalus64.

You're kind of proving his point. The N64 has a MIPS CPU similar to the PSP. That's the main reason why the PSP could emulate the N64 as well as it did. The 3DS's main saving grace is a proper dual core CPU. Even then, at its best, I can't imagine it would be much better than DaedalusX64 on the PSP.

 

[DinohScene]

N64 on PSP ran sluggish, only Mario 64 ran good iirc.

besides, even if they do run sluggish, it's still an working emulator.

 

[ndstuff]

You are forgetting, that we have a very incomplete 3DS libs yet, homebrew is not using 3DS's full power. A lot of stuff those emulators are doing by themselves, could probably be handled much faster by some syscall of 3DS.

Yes, we already do. Code execution on arm11 has been possible for a long time. And pica is an abomination of a gpu that isn't useful for emulators anyway.