Hardware Why do people call the switch a handheld/portable?
well this is a "somewhat" handheld tablet with a video out port (video out gimmick) then...
We could possibly argue carts vs CDs and there are merits, Nintendo were hardly a joy to work with during the 8 and 16 bit eras though. They had a serious iron fist during that, dictated content quite harshly (I assume we are all familiar with Nintendo's censorship), dictated volumes (if they control the lockout chips...) and so forth, some might say that resulted in quality but I would say in spite of. From where I sit then that is what gave Sony the real in.
Also I am not sure the wii u could count as on the graphics wagon. By this point the chips inside the wii u were being made for not a lot at all, give or take the atrocity that was the wii cpu and that was cobbled together from their old tech anyway.
On superior hardware then unless it is out and out superior and can handle the overhead they would also need to get an online system going (if we ignore the PC and take the starting line of the 360 at late 2005 that is now nearly 12 years and their online offerings are still beyond a joke, during that time all by my lonesome I have deployed multiple systems that surpass Nintendo's offerings in functionality and I would bet good money on them scaling to Nintendo's needs too).
Equally the N64 has good graphics argument was tenuous at the time -- the muddy textures, framerates frequently somewhere around "slideshow" and aliasing issues were well known at the time. It certainly pushed some polys but that was known not to be the be all and end all.
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The DS was also not meant to be a Game Boy Advance successor either. And the GBA Micro came out a whole year after the DS launched. They claimed the DS was a side project but, when it sold like hot cakes, they never spoke of the "true" successor to the GBA again.
People "justifying" the lack of power by saying it's a handheld are actually acknowledging the trade off that was made in order to make it handheld. When you think about it in these terms, it makes sense. Nintendo dominated the handheld console market, but haven't dominated the home console market in a long time. Some potential genius at Nintendo came up with the idea of blurring the lines and converging the two markets. If it fails, Nintendo will produce successors in both markets. If it succeeds, I doubt we'll see a 3DS successor.
Something that CAN be used portably is, by definition, portable. Something that you can use in your hands is, by definition, handheld. You can't get around this by saying, "I don't see it as a portable or a handheld". It's not difficult to come to terms with, just read the fucking dictionary!
People who think it's a handheld usually have these arguments:
1) It's a tablet - Nope, the display is too small for a tablet and it's not suitable for tablet tasks.
2) It uses a portable SoC - A PC can have a portable SoC. Doesn't make the PC a handheld. The PS Vita TV uses a portable SoC. Vita TV is not a handheld.
3) It's a Shield Tablet - Nope, it's not. Both hardware and software are different.
Bottom line is that it's not a handheld. It's a home console with a built-in screen and attachable controllers, enabling limited portable play.
1) It's a tablet - Nope, the display is too small for a tablet and it's not suitable for tablet tasks.
2) It uses a portable SoC - A PC can have a portable SoC. Doesn't make the PC a handheld. The PS Vita TV uses a portable SoC. Vita TV is not a handheld.
3) It's a Shield Tablet - Nope, it's not. Both hardware and software are different.
Bottom line is that it's not a handheld. It's a home console with a built-in screen and attachable controllers, enabling limited portable play.
It's not just real, but it dates back to about 2015. Which the Switch wasn't revealed until 2016
Looks like Nintendo did some copying
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A handheld is a console regardless of that. Console =/= Home Console as far as I'm aware.
Add to that a very small diesel generator, battery pack, or car adapter and why not?
That would be portable, but not very hand holdable. So no handheld.
PS: Remember this was marketed as portable.
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I'm kinda worried about the duck analogy
Don't eat the poor ducks, we have chickens already,
Oh, it may be... not PETA friendly... but duck tastes so much better than chicken.I'm kinda worried about the duck analogy
Don't eat the poor ducks, we have chickens already,
Specially that asian duck with coconut milk, rice and curry... Hmmm, now I am tempted.
Going to the vietnamese store right now.
Except that in that case, these kids would be idiots, there is actually an answer to that. The answer is just "look at definitions for both words and conclude".
For the Switch, it's harder. Just look at the "handheld game console" and "home game console" articles on Wikipedia and notice the Switch is only present on the former article. Then read the article about the Switch itself and notice the first sentence says it's a home console -.-
So I'd say it's more like toilet paper above vs under (as mentioned on the other thread). It works both ways, people decide what it is according to their use.
The form factor makes up for the lack of power (in comparison to PS4 pro). The graphical limits are justified in this case because of the fact it's all on a portable tablet. It's not as if Nintendo couldn't make a console that parallels the ps4, they just didn't want to produce a low grade PC that's sold at a high price. Nintendo always does something different that sets itself apart from the competition.
Curious, I a) had no idea duck was not commonly eaten... everywhere and b) certainly had no idea there were objections like that. c) I have done Brazilian restaurants and "meat, meat and more meat" seems to be the order of the day, as it seems to be in Brazilian cooking in general, ultimately a bit pork heavy for my taste but the sentiment I can certainly appreciate.I'm kinda worried about the duck analogy
Don't eat the poor ducks, we have chickens already,
Chinese/oriental duck certainly has its charms, and were it not for my wanting to try everything and also shredded chilli beef it is a solid order in any Chinese takeout, but for me it definitely has to be a well basted duck put under the closed lid of a bbq and left until... if it is was turkey it would be dry as nobody likes but as it is duck it still has a bit of fat left and just falls off the bone. Get it ready and put it on as the main line in eating is done, and then however long later when everybody is a bit more drunk it is done and it goes down a treat. Bonus 2) is second time you do it all the greedy bastards that filled up the previous bbq will hang back so as to be able to have some and thus allow others to get in on the main part. I should warn you though that it is rather aromatic, for me it smells delicious and if I am bothered by the smell it is because I am bloody jealous but I am aware of how cooking smells play out in Germany*.
*I was otherwise aware of the notion but a client of mine relayed a story of them going to Germany, staying in a residential place and by some good fortune found a butchers that sold beef kidney. Subsequently boiled and curried. Others less familiar with cooking offal consider what your kidneys do; cooking them with heat smells about like what you would expect.
Equally if you like your meat a bit more gamey see if there is some wild duck, it is not quite as night and day as boar vs pig but definitely different.
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By Nintendo's own words it's a home console. But despite that, the Nintendo Switch is a home console and a handheld. Both.
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