i really don't know anything nowadays worth any shit, all devices built nowadays break as soon as you touch it... televisions, radio's computers they're not lasting long enough to be called quality built... so i know a lot o stuff i have should've been a lot cheaper, like the notebooks of today: if they'll survive 3 years it's something the manufacturer is proud of? my c64 still works, my first laptop (compaq pentium 75 mhz) still works... but they can't get a modern console to survive 3 years? when i was 20 a television was as cheap as € 80,- and i could see everything clearly nowadays the tv looks way different always have a water like effect, even the 8k versions and the cheapest i can find is still 350 euro... nothing is too cheap all companies got greedy...