University of Toronto to host massive student sex orgy to encourage safe sex

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So my comment bothered you?
Yes. Saying, " No other countries even know of any other place in Canada other than Toronto, maybe Vancouver and I'm from Canada." is so false it's not even funny. I'm well aware of the importance of Toronto, but degrading other parts of the country because you for whatever reason believe you are better than them is something I will call you out on.

Also, I didn't even respond to what Malice said about Toronto. I was speaking strictly of Quebec and what has been shown throughout history thus far. I'm not saying I agree with Malice because he is also degrading other parts of the country. But the tiniest bit of his post had some sense to it, again based on the history of Quebec and English-speaking Canadians.
 
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I personally believe the University of Toronto will call this careless event off! The whole idea-the thought of orgy just shows the blatant disrespect to the student body that represents that University. To me the University must write a apologetic letter to the students, parents, and even the officials who work there. That thought of perversion is really scary since the safety and moral for these future working adults would have been tainted by the idea that sex is available no matter where they go.
 
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I personally believe the University of Toronto will call this careless event off! The whole idea-the thought of orgy just shows the blatant disrespect to the student body that represents that University. To me the University must write a apologetic letter to the students, parents, and even the officials who work there. That thought of perversion is really scary since the safety and moral for these future working adults would have been tainted by the idea that sex is available no matter where they go.

Prostitution laws in Canada are such that you can more or less pay for sex and get it any time you want, beyond that in much of the modern world one needs only have a measure of charm and to go to a bar/pub.

I also fail to see how this shows disrespect to the student body or indeed is perverted- it is entirely optional/voluntary and there is no law or such to discourage orgies.
 

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@Fast6191: Even if you're right then it's my personal belief that comes to mind about orgies. Although I'm no saint myself, the voluntary event shouldn't be about having protective sex by getting into a group of individuals you don't know or trust. Then again, I'm only seeing the negative aspect about this happening. Since this is an University, I should give it some respect that it will put out some rules or warnings about joining the event. So that way none of the volunteers will be disappointed by the fact they didn't score.

I still stand that this event can only lead to either two things. 1) A bunch of awkward conversations with each other explaining I want to have sex with you. 2) The regret of volunteering to be a statistic about how many males/females where able to participate in it.
 

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Yes. Saying, " No other countries even know of any other place in Canada other than Toronto, maybe Vancouver and I'm from Canada." is so false it's not even funny. I'm well aware of the importance of Toronto, but degrading other parts of the country because you for whatever reason believe you are better than them is something I will call you out on.

Also, I didn't even respond to what Malice said about Toronto. I was speaking strictly of Quebec and what has been shown throughout history thus far. I'm not saying I agree with Malice because he is also degrading other parts of the country. But the tiniest bit of his post had some sense to it, again based on the history of Quebec and English-speaking Canadians.

Who cares? The majority of people from Quebec have no interest in separating from Canada and the movement has died a pretty heavy death in recent years. The Bloc is consistently losing federal support and will in time be dissolved as a party at the federal level. I think a lot of people from Quebec have figured out that annoying the rest of the country with their attempts at sovereignty isn't the way to go.
 

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@Fast6191: Even if you're right then it's my personal belief that comes to mind about orgies. Although I'm no saint myself, the voluntary event shouldn't be about having protective sex by getting into a group of individuals you don't know or trust. Then again, I'm only seeing the negative aspect about this happening. Since this is an University, I should give it some respect that it will put out some rules or warnings about joining the event. So that way none of the volunteers will be disappointed by the fact they didn't score.

I still stand that this event can only lead to either two things. 1) A bunch of awkward conversations with each other explaining I want to have sex with you. 2) The regret of volunteering to be a statistic about how many males/females where able to participate in it.

I'd like to point out for posts like this,

this is a university we're talking about. This could lead to some statistics or data or whatever and be a solid proof of actual chances of STD's and whatnot, so who knows what they'll find out. It could be because of a reason like this that scientists/doctors discover another cure for another disease (first being HIV was it?) I'm all for this. Everybody's being safe, there's so many ways to minimize risk of pregnancy and std's and everything to the point where it's near non-existent. When they come out of this, it's just going to be another project that the people from the sex ed department did, I can't see them looking weird at each other or acting weird. People in the porn business do it all the time.

The only reason why I could see this shutting down is that there won't be enough girls at all or that it won't be that big of an orgy or anything. I mean let's be honest, not to sound like a sexist or any of that shit, but girls generally speaking don't mind hooking up with one another for a one time thing, where as guys do. And by that I mean girls are just more open minded about it.


As for the people bitching about the cities and shit, shut up, totally off topic. Toronto's big, we get it. Stop talking about bullshit like Quebec leaving or not leaving or that shit.
 

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@ShadowSoldier: Bravo, you basically given me the main reason why trial and error exists in the first place. To rule out the hypothesis about what can occur during the event or what 'might' from the event. Yes I can see that the sex Ed want to see how many people are more open up to sex however, the aftermath can leave a stigma toward the participates that want to get job but this event can be a deal breaker for them. On the other hand, that thought about their future careers being endanger will turn off a few volunteers. So it can go either way, success to get some or cockblock by a bunch of males waiting for their turn.
 

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Canonbeat234 you sound as though the event will be filmed and broadcast for posterity and the list of attendees will be available to all and sundry. Similarly even if it was would it really make so much of a difference when applying for a job?
 

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Shit... Too bad I wasn't University level yet! Would of dipped and head down there!


In all seriousness.. I'ma checck some porn sites to see the goodies they uploaded from this wonderful event!
 

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Prostitution laws in Canada are such that you can more or less pay for sex and get it any time you want, beyond that in much of the modern world one needs only have a measure of charm and to go to a bar/pub.

I also fail to see how this shows disrespect to the student body or indeed is perverted- it is entirely optional/voluntary and there is no law or such to discourage orgies.

Canadian laws are weird in that it is perfectly legal to rent out your vagina (prostitution) but it is illegal to rent out your uterus (surrogacy).
 

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I disagree. Do you know how many university students wind up having unprotected sex with multiple partners over a 4 year school term? There are loads, I am sure if there was a study done on it, you would probably find that at least 50% of students have done so. Better to promote safe healthy sex then let students get all shitfaced and have unprotected sex with whomever they please.
If university students choose to have unprotected sex, they are only doing it for pleasure and because they lack control. I don't care if 90% of students had unprotected sex with 10 partners, it still isn't a question of education. Do you think safe healthy sex is having sex in a publicish area in front of everyone? Anyone willing to do this is obviously mentally unhealthy and should not be encouraged and especially not motivated to join in this sick demonstration and degradation of sexuality. If enough people go to this thing, I bet you anything that someone will get pregnant and someone will get an std. The government should have absolutely no involvement or influence in the sex life of its people except to protect those who cannot protect themselves (like victims of rape including pedophilia).

On risk of going off topic, I don't see how it's disgusting, or wrong. Sex isn't either of those, either. It's just casual sex. People already enjoy so many other things, why not add one more thing? ;D

Sex isn't wrong. Sex is good.
Casual sex is wrong, especially when it is with people you don't know or hardly know. The term casual sex demonstrates a misguided appreciation for sex.
In my case, my future children will appreciate that I will only have had sex with their mother if I am fortunate enough to marry.
 
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Seriously, this is just a frivolous party to promote a cause the whole university is already aware of.
Want to promote using condoms in high schools and middle schools? Fine. While, on the one hand, teaching kids about sex at that age is terrible for our society, it's not unwelcome in my book. Foreign countries have lower age laws than we do, not to mention arranged weddings. Even with that aside, I knew about sex by age 11. So yes, by all means, teach our children (who are going to learn about sex one way or another) about condoms, but at least discourage it.

No government funded institution should promote using birth control. It is not their job. I don't think teaching kids about sex is terrible for our society. I just think the family should do it and not the government, because the government encourages them to use birth control while I would encourage them not to have sex in the first place.
 

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If university students choose to have unprotected sex, they are only doing it for pleasure and because they lack control. I don't care if 90% of students had unprotected sex with 10 partners, it still isn't a question of education. Do you think safe healthy sex is having sex in a publicish area in front of everyone? Anyone willing to do this is obviously mentally unhealthy and should not be encouraged and especially not motivated to join in this sick demonstration and degradation of sexuality. If enough people go to this thing, I bet you anything that someone will get pregnant and someone will get an std. The government should have absolutely no involvement or influence in the sex life of its people except to protect those who cannot protect themselves (like victims of rape including pedophilia).



Sex isn't wrong. Sex is good.
Casual sex is wrong, especially when it is with people you don't know or hardly know. The term casual sex demonstrates a misguided appreciation for sex.
In my case, my future children will appreciate that I will only have had sex with their mother if I am fortunate enough to marry.


Despite my other responses to the topic but less than clinically scientifically serious this one is- I would contend if you consider this event as such then you are the one without a healthy appreciation for sex and to accuse those that would participate "obviously mentally unhealthy" is offensive on many levels. If it is not your thing then you do not have to do anything but calling it out of line is something that I hold would not fly in most places.

Edit- re: "no government institution should promote birth control"- didn't they try that (see "abstinence only education") and it failed miserably?
 
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Despite my other responses to the topic but less than clinically scientifically serious this one is- I would contend if you consider this event as such then you are the one without a healthy appreciation for sex and to accuse those that would participate "obviously mentally unhealthy" is offensive on many levels. If it is not your thing then you do not have to do anything but calling it out of line is something that I hold would not fly in most places.

If people act ridiculous they certainly should be ridiculed. As described in the video, it would be a giant sex orgy which is mentally unhealthy and disgusting. I think my calling it out of line would certainly fly in most places. If it wouldn't fly in most places, is that a reason for me to not say it? Socrates said plenty of things that were "out of line" and he was sentenced to death for corrupting the youth (despite being correct). If something is ethically wrong, it should be spoken out against even if it would not fly anywhere.
 

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I am certainly a fan of people doing stupid things being called on it (despite not much new being added for a while http://darwinawards.com/ is one of my more frequently visited bookmarks), however my contention is that this would not be one of those cases.

"which is mentally unhealthy and disgusting"
Onus is on you to qualify that- there is no law against it, there is no discouragement from an insurance perspective, there is/was no discouragement from another perspective (thinking being like police refusing to have booze licenses granted if a place does not have surveillance cameras) and most of the obvious would be risks are fairly easily negated.
Most places.... that might have been weak phrasing on my part as a large percentage of places might have an issue with it, you might find your own example coming back at you there (if it can be considered righteous enough then the ones arguing against it are backwards thinking....). However I still contend that to have an issue with it beyond a lack of personal aesthetic appeal is not on.
 

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