The End of Capitalism in Germany is here

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Well better then reddit where you can have a serious debate over socialism vs capitalism and then look at a random AMA where the most asked question is what the person's favorite bagel is.
I don't know, after seeing a couple of posts in the vaccination thread I literally lost hope in humanity, then I remembered I was on GBAtemp. Reddit discussions are somewhat more coherent.
 
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The problem is the people are largely uninformed and often consider anti-capitalism, social democracy, socialism, and communism (along with its various flavors) the same even when they are so different it is not even funny.

I'm a politics grad so Temp politics threads are pretty amusing at how literal everything is interpreted, especially at how the political landscape has changed to be more vague and less defined. I would regard myself as a socialist but anyone whose read my political views here wouldn't associate me as a fucking Lenninst.

Lulz at anyone who thinks China are Commies. They're State authoritarian capitalists lads.
 
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Just read through the comments and I'm sure you'll find the words you're looking for.
I can't quite grasp how someone can say that without any shame and propose a system in which everyone is doing nothing as a "NEET", gets an "equal share" as a member of society and gives nothing in return. The only appropriate term that comes to mind is "parasite".
Lulz at anyone who thinks China are Commies. They're State authoritarian capitalists lads.
Correct, it hasn't been truly communist since the times of Mao. Its economic policy is based on aggressive capitalism under the heel of the party, except instead of having companies compete with eachother for the Chinese customer's favour, they're pushed by the state to not so much compete, but completely undercut western competitors, even at the cost of safety, product quality and often times at barely profitable rates. It's the exact opposite of a free market. They want us addicted to the country's manufacturing base, and when they're getting too much traction, they just artificially devalue the currency to drop the costs again. It's all government f*ckery.
 
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I don't know, after seeing a couple of posts in the vaccination thread I literally lost hope in humanity, then I remembered I was on GBAtemp. Reddit discussions are somewhat more coherent.
True although regardless reddit has some really damn strange areas depending on how you go.

I'm a politics grad so Temp politics threads are pretty amusing at how literal everything is interpreted, especially at how the political landscape has changed to be more vague and less defined.
Very true. If you look at people uniformed about economies and politics, they almost always believe that there is Socialism/Communism (used interchangeably) and Capitalism (generally viewed as having little to no regulations). This has no regards for the fact that communism and capitalism both have multiple variations. Anyway you know all of this but personally as a Poli Sci major it upsets me to know how stupid the public is regarding civics.

Lulz at anyone who thinks China are Commies. They're State authoritarian capitalists lads.
Again very true. The problem is that it assumes state control of industries = communism, which is not true. Personally I prefer to say that China is historically communist (prior to the 80's or so) but currently is capitalist with large amounts of state control.
 
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Well better then reddit where you can have a serious debate over socialism vs capitalism and then look at a random AMA where the most asked question is what the person's favorite bagel is.
Reddit? Won't a post people disagree with just get down voted into oblivion, to the point where the place just becomes an echo chamber?
 
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Again, look at Venezuela. It was an attempt to do away with Capitalism and now in a last attempt at survival the government enacted "Right to Work" policies which are literally slavery.

Capitalism is required for international trade. You need to pay China money to buy Betty Crocker waffle irons. Any country that avoids capitalism is forced to close it's borders so that it's citizens don't sell their free swag to get products not available for free, and even then it becomes a losing cycle. Have you stopped to consider which countries avoid capitalism entirely? Off hand there's North Korea and Venezuela, neither of which is a place to raise a family.

Even the computer you are using now would not be available if it wasn't for capitalism.
 
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That's all you've got? I'm not even a PiS supporter, this doesn’t "hurt" me in any way. It also doesn't sound like PiS propaganda because PiS does not follow laissez-faire principles. In fact, they've introduced even more welfare into the system - their social and economic policies are not "capitalist". I wouldn't even call the party right-wing - they're traditionalists, if anything. The right-wing has been eviscerated in my country, it no longer exists, but that's neither here nor there. As for your age, that explains a lot. In 10 years time, once you achieve something and have some wealth to call your own, your point of view will drastically change. Don't worry, I'll still be there to defend it from hawks who'd like to sink their talons into it.
That's all because this discussion is getting nowhere. For you life is all about money and profits, that's what you call success. I'm not like you.

Anyway, if you all like it or not, socialism is happening.
 
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That's all because this discussion is getting nowhere. For you life is all about money and profits, that's what you call success. I'm not like you.

Anyway, if you all like it or not, socialism is happening.
If that's what you inferred from our conversation, it goes to show that your reading comprehension is rather poor. As a person who's unemployed, no longer in school, not receiving any training, acquiring your groceries from dumpsters, pirating all your digital content and living under someone else's roof with no means to support yourself you're contributing nothing to society whatsoever - in fact, one could argue that your connection to it is parasitic. As such, you're not only not qualified to speak on matters of economic policy as you have no experience in dealing with money, you also have no claim to the society's public funds as you don't participate in it in the first place. You're a walking, talking argument for a meritocracy.

The purpose of social policies is to help those who have fallen through no fault of their own or forces beyond their control - get them back on their feet in their time of need. I'm a busy man - I work 6 days a week and I take pride in my work. Earning gives me satisfaction, I know that every single coin in my pocket is there because I worked for it. You don't need "help", you're not a victim, you chose to lay down and do nothing. As such, the mere thought of you getting any money that I worked for at all disgusts me. Your attitude lacks any form of pride, self-respect, aspirations or even decency. It's truly shameful. The mere implication that you deserve an "equal share" is preposterous - an equal share necessitates an equal contribution, within your capabilities.
 

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I doubt the us congress will approve that and I doubt you can even build a wall that size. people are too ignorant and actually believe that trump can do that.
The GOP rules congress and if elected he could pick a conservative Judge so it is theoretically easy for that to happen if we elect him since he will be able to do whatever he wants.
 

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The GOP rules congress and if elected he could pick a conservative Judge so it is theoretically easy for that to happen if we elect him since he will be able to do whatever he wants.
Still American people are not electing a king. trump cant do whatever he wants, the congress will have to approve this wall and that will never happened. do you actually think this is going to stop people from crossing the border. you know I heard this story from this guy who knew that drug lords used tunnels to get a cross the border and people use it as well. building the wall is truly stupid and how Is he going to build a wall so big
 
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I'm afraid National Socialism is the only prayer Germany has left at this point and it either won't happen or will be too little, too late. Whoever controls the EU has decided to sacrifice it.
 

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