The End of Capitalism in Germany is here

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The weird thing with trump is that he throws shit to latinos saying he will make the wall and all of that and black people hate him but if we actually figure it out those people were never going to vote for trump on the first place so he is like trying to keep the hardcore republican people on his side and all the people who are sick of paying more taxes. Hilary only wants to get taxes to give it to people she is a very socialist person. it will never work. people with Hillary become takers who are used to get everything with out much effort and that will never work you cannot take the money from the rich to give it to the poor it will never work even if US is the worlds biggest economy it will never work. I personally hate trump he such a stupid ignorant motherfucker but Hillary is fucking evil demon and we all know that so US needs trump. socialism will never work (don't take it personal if you love socialism please;))
 
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Still American people are not electing a king. trump cant do whatever he wants, the congress will have to approve this wall and that will never happened.
If congress is controlled by the GOP it could happen provided they have enough votes

do you actually think this is going to stop people from crossing the border
Absolutely not, I personally support open borders BUT I was saying if he was elected he could create the borers since the GOP would rule congress and vote for whatever he wants

ou know I heard this story from this guy who knew that drug lords used tunnels to get a cross the border and people use it as well. building the wall is truly stupid and how Is he going to build a wall so big
Absolutely
 
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You guys should visit us (russia) once in a lifetime to get the full meaning of raging capitalism in here. Oh wait, it's already a monarchy, yes.
President, oh forgive me, his highness King Putin himself doing whatever he wants, no matter what. Thiefs getting richier, poor - poorer, and it goes under the rock slowly but unavoidingly.
 
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Chinese built a wall to protect their country from invaders from the outside.
Trump wants to protect his ass from US former citizens. How's that?
 

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I'm afraid National Socialism is the only prayer Germany has left at this point and it either won't happen or will be too little, too late. Whoever controls the EU has decided to sacrifice it.
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If that's what you inferred from our conversation, it goes to show that your reading comprehension is rather poor. As a person who's unemployed, no longer in school, not receiving any training, acquiring your groceries from dumpsters, pirating all your digital content and living under someone else's roof with no means to support yourself you're contributing nothing to society whatsoever - in fact, one could argue that your connection to it is parasitic. As such, you're not only not qualified to speak on matters of economic policy as you have no experience in dealing with money, you also have no claim to the society's public funds as you don't participate in it in the first place. You're a walking, talking argument for a meritocracy.

The purpose of social policies is to help those who have fallen through no fault of their own or forces beyond their control - get them back on their feet in their time of need. I'm a busy man - I work 6 days a week and I take pride in my work. Earning gives me satisfaction, I know that every single coin in my pocket is there because I worked for it. You don't need "help", you're not a victim, you chose to lay down and do nothing. As such, the mere thought of you getting any money that I worked for at all disgusts me. Your attitude lacks any form of pride, self-respect, aspirations or even decency. It's truly shameful. The mere implication that you deserve an "equal share" is preposterous - an equal share necessitates an equal contribution, within your capabilities.
You've read my blog and its comments, so you should know that I actually am looking for a source of income and have no plans to rely on the state.

But anyway, you still don't seem to understand socialism. It's not about giving money to those who don't want to work. While you may not know it, many workes that work 40 hours a week (or even more) are poor because they get paid MUCH less than other people. And why is that? For one reason, it's because people like you who are against a minimum wage. What would be the reason you are against it? Well, you claim that it's a job killer (which it is NOT, learn german and read this article: http://www.br.de/nachrichten/mindestlohn-erfolg-100.html TL;DR: Minimum wage is a success and people are happy), but we all know the actual reason people like you don't want it. You don't want to pay your employees more, but have all the money for yourself. "They get only 4€ for an hour of work? Their problem! :^)". And if you don't have a business, you don't want to pay more for their services, which is practically the same. More money for you, less for them.

If we look at it, you are against a minimum wage and help for those who don't want to work. So if someone refuses to work for 1€/hour, he deserves to lose his home and starve. Got it.
 
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TL;DR: Minimum wage is a success and people are happy), but we all know the actual reason people like you don't want it. You don't want to pay your employees more, but have all the money for yourself. "They get only 4€ for an hour of work? Their problem! :^)". And if you don't have a business, you don't want to pay more for their services, which is practically the same. More money for you, less for them.

Minimum wage laws hurt the poor, because their dollar is worth less even though the number of dollars in their pay check has gone up (not necessarily consistently, because full time is often times 30 hours at some places). Owners suffer because to own a domestic business, they need to pay higher rates than they would to run a foreign one. At least in terms of production. The people who win? Other countries' CEOs/politicians, because of the corruption that enables them to have a freer market. Also think about it if an employer was able to raise prices and maintain the same level of sales he already would have.
 

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You've read my blog and its comments, so you should know that I actually am looking for a source of income and have no plans to rely on the state.

But anyway, you still don't seem to understand socialism. It's not about giving money to those who don't want to work. While you may not know it, many workes that work 40 hours a week (or even more) are poor because they get paid MUCH less than other people. And why is that? For one reason, it's because people like you who are against a minimum wage. What would be the reason you are against it? Well, you claim that it's a job killer (which it is NOT, learn german and read this article: http://www.br.de/nachrichten/mindestlohn-erfolg-100.html TL;DR: Minimum wage is a success and people are happy), but we all know the actual reason people like you don't want it. You don't want to pay your employees more, but have all the money for yourself. "They get only 4€ for an hour of work? Their problem! :^)". And if you don't have a business, you don't want to pay more for their services, which is practically the same. More money for you, less for them.

If we look at it, you are against a minimum wage and help for those who don't want to work. So if someone refuses to work for 1€/hour, he deserves to lose his home and starve. Got it.
My country's already been through your feel-good socialist dream once - no thanks, you can keep it.

You relying on public healthcare and being a recipient of public education has already tapped into the system, a system that you're yet to contribute to.

40 hours a week is nothing, full-time employment equals 48 hours a week, 8 hours a day, 6 days a week. Anything less than that seems low to me. Unfortunately the current job market, created by your social dem buddies by the way, makes it impossible to reach those results to most workers.

I don't have "employees", I *am* an employee and I already explained what the problem with minimum wage is - it destabilises the whole system. If you think you're being paid too little, perhaps it's time to get new qualifications, change your employment or consider self-employment by opening a business. You already have experience in whatever you were doing - go out there and compete.

I don't have to learn German, I *know* German. I also know French and English, because I went to school and believe that broadening my horizons is more constructive than sitting on my ass. Crazy, I know.

I already explained what the problem with minimum wage increases is - it destabilises the market. It puts a cleaner who used to earn $8 per hour and now earns $15 on the same level as a software developer who earns $15 and does not receive the same wage increase despite investing in his education and spending a significant amount of money to get educated in his craft. All of a sudden the two get the same amount of money for vastly different jobs and once living costs increase, which they inevitably do, the software developer becomes just as poor as a cleaner, if not poorer due to college debt or other loans. It drains the market of jobs, increases prices across the board and it's not a hypothetical.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...ment-up-this-isnt-working-is-it/#6975981d3712

As for me wanting to pay less for goods and services, *of course* that's part of the equation. I purchase quality goods and services for a fair amount of money, I aim at getting the best value I can and *everyone should* because the money you earn and then spend is the quantum of life. I want to get as much as possible out of my earnings, that's logical. If someone provides equally good services or goods to you for less money, I'll go to them until you reevaluate your business model because you're inefficient.

I'm not sure if there's any reason to continue this conversation considering the fact that you clearly have no idea how the market works. Makes sense, considering the fact that your buddy Marx spent his life supported by Engels and his other buddies since he was too busy "thinking" to get employable skills or build a career.
 
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Yeah, no. The minimum wage is an essential part of worker protection. No disrespect Foxi, but your arguments against it is complete bollocks.

Will go into more detail later.
It's a nice story. I'm all for a safety net, but you can't establish a "living wage" when living costs constantly fluctuate. Minimum wage eliminated the possibility for low earners to negotiate wages - either you work for the bare legal minimum or you don't work at all. It stripped unions of a lot of their power as they can no longer pressure companies into giving low earners higher wages. Not that unions were helpful in the first place, they're just another corrupt cog in the system. If minimum wage is supposed to function and protect workers, it has to float to the value of currency and living costs, otherwise it's a huge loophole for abuse of the lowest social classes. I'm not totally against it, I can see its value as a protective mechanism, but its current implementation where it doesn't change for a decade or more when living costs do, especially in times of recession, is asinine.
 
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Sadly from my perspective, I think the UK is tipping more and more to the right. Our democratic socialist Labour Party is falling apart and our Conservatives look set for a long, long spell in power. It looked like the left might re-emerge under Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader, but actually he's just inept and his parliamentary party have refused to help him from day one. The Greens (despite having the best MP in our Parliament - their only MP) won't increase their number of seats under our antiquated First Past The Post voting system. More creeping privatisation of our public services it is, then.
 

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