PS Vita to have ‘surprisingly big show’ at this years E3?
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That game doesn't actually exist - the developers mentioned several times that there was an idea for the game but no development began because they were busy with "Bioshock Infinite" and after that game was released, they were waiting for the publisher's green light... with has not been lit up yet.
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Remember when people said that for E3, and TGS, and Sony's "Vita Game Heaven" events. Yeah..I'll believe it when I see it.
So ports and remakes for the most part are not gonna make me buy a Vita again. See, this is why the Vita fails, it needs new content and it needs it now.
> Games are ports "For the most part"
> Two were mentioned: Final Fantasy X/X-II and Jak & Daxter
Oh, sorry DSGAMER64, didn't know you were planning to get one, I'm sure when the system gets some new titles, you will be more forgiving. Oh, what wise words, words to go by!
As per usual, I'm guessing that Zelda OoT3D, StarFox64 3D, Wind Waker HD, Metal Gear Solid 3 3D, Super Mario 64 DS, Devil Survivor: Overclocked and so on we're fine, but god forbid someone re-releases some games on the PSVita, that's just sacrilege.
I never actually bought any of the Playstations before 3, so even PS remakes on the Vita would be fine for me. Just started playing Persona 4 Golden which is also a remake from a PS2 game.
Besides that the only actual Vita games I have are Uncharted, Gravity Rush and Escape Plan.
Anyhows I don't really think releasing a new version of the Vita is what they need to raise the sales... New games would definitely be "better".
Or maybe they will announce that the Vita -> PS3 link will finally support every PS3 game ever, so you can stream PS3 games to the Vita like how you can play most Wii U games on the Wii U pad? :3
Besides that the only actual Vita games I have are Uncharted, Gravity Rush and Escape Plan.
Anyhows I don't really think releasing a new version of the Vita is what they need to raise the sales... New games would definitely be "better".
Or maybe they will announce that the Vita -> PS3 link will finally support every PS3 game ever, so you can stream PS3 games to the Vita like how you can play most Wii U games on the Wii U pad? :3
See, you seem to imply that the 3DS has as many ports, not to mention the ports you have mentioned were for multiple systems, but considering the bulk of upcoming Vita releases are ports, while the 3DS has only seen a few in it's entire time on the market makes your argument laughable. Nice attempt at trolling and trying to defend the fact that the Vita isn't the haven for console games that people have played the shit out of. People don't drop $250 to play ports of games they have already played you know.
The 3DS does have a lot of ports in its library and I was talking from a "ports for Sony and Nintendo devices these days" perspective. Do you always accuse people of trolling when they're right?
Two ports were mentioned - the Final Fantasy X collection and Jak & Daxter, you claim it's the bulk. It's not.
3DS has ports and remakes too - plenty of them in fact:
- "BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II"
- "MGS: Snake Eater 3D"
- "Zelda OoT 3D"
- "Rayman 3D"
- "Rayman Origins"
- "SMT: Devil Survivor - Overclocked"
- "SMT: Devil Survivor 2 - Break Record" (To be released)
- "Starfox 64 3D"
- "Super Street Fighter 4 3D"
- "Unchained Blades"
- "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D"
- "VVVVVV"
- "Cave Story" (NOT Cave Story 3D)
- and probably more, but nothing comes to mind right now
Haven't seen anything from the vita to interest me and it will probably stay that way. Same for the 3ds unless dragon quest monsters comes out in the US.
The ONLY THING holding me back from a Vita is the memory cards. I really don't wanna invest in such an expensive form of proprietary memory.
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I have to disagree with you here. The bulk of the Vita's library and upcoming library does consist of ports. When people say the system has no games, they're referring to exclusive titles. All those PS3/PS2 games don't matter.The 3DS does have a lot of ports in its library and I was talking from a "ports for Sony and Nintendo devices these days" perspective. Do you always accuse people of trolling when they're right?
Two ports were mentioned - the Final Fantasy X collection and Jak & Daxter, you claim it's the bulk. It's not.
3DS has ports and remakes too - plenty of them in fact:
I figured a convenient list to prove a point was in order. That's all it runs down to.
- "BlazBlue: Continuum Shift II"
- "MGS: Snake Eater 3D"
- "Zelda OoT 3D"
- "Rayman 3D"
- "Rayman Origins"
- "SMT: Devil Survivor - Overclocked"
- "SMT: Devil Survivor 2 - Break Record" (To be released)
- "Starfox 64 3D"
- "Super Street Fighter 4 3D"
- "Unchained Blades"
- "Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D"
- "VVVVVV"
- "Cave Story" (NOT Cave Story 3D)
- and probably more, but nothing comes to mind right now
The 3DS doesn't feature nearly as many ports. In fact, on that list you posted, those are just the usual launch ports, one or two indie games and a couple remakes. Compared to the number of exclusives available, that's hardly anything.
Please name this so-called "bulk", because the word "bulk" implies "majority" and that's not the case.
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Well here is every notable Vita game so far (including upcoming games). Bolded are ports/remakes.
Sure looks to me like the bulk of the library is ports.
^I'm probably being pedantic and all, but I don't really consider VLR as a port per se. I think of it more as a co-release since it was released simultaneously with the 3DS version. I usually only categorise ports if the game is based on another (of another system) which is released at an earlier date. But that's just me
Interesting to you (subjective opinion), and you cleverly avoided my question.
Outline the bulk of the upcoming games that are ports. Also, a few clarifications as far as your list is concerned:
From the ones you mentioned, those games were released are multiplatform from the start, ergo aren't ports:
- Guacamelee
- PSABR
- God Eater 2
- Sound Shapes
- Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
- MotorStorm RC
- Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault [albeit the PSVita release is delayed - they're adding some PSVita-specific stuff]
- Disgaea 3
- Persona 4 Golden [Enhanced Port]
- Dead or Alive 5 Plus [Enhanced Port]
- Final Fantasy X/X-II [Enhanced Multiplatform Ports]
- Jak & Daxter Collection [Enhanced Ports]
- Jet Set Radio
- Metal Gear Solid HD Collection [Enhanced Multiplatfom Ports]
- Muramasa Rebirth [Enhanced Port]
- Oddworld: Munch's Oddyssey HD [Enhanced Port]
- Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
- Tales of Hearts R [Enhanced Port]
- Tales of Innocence R [Enhanced Port]
You're entirely correct - a game simultaneously released on several systems cannot be considered a "port".^I'm probably being pedantic and all, but I don't really consider VLR as a port per se. I think of it more as a co-release since it was released simultaneously with the 3DS version. I usually only categorise ports if the game is based on another (of another system) which is released at an earlier date. But that's just me
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It has to be said, P4G is an excellent example of an enhanced port.
RE: VLR, Vita>>>3DS on the grounds the Vita version performs better on a technical level.
I've just beaten what the final boss and I could have just easily finished the game on the PS2 version. However in the Vita version still has in game several months for me to fuck around, that's potentially another ten hours of meaningful content
RE: VLR, Vita>>>3DS on the grounds the Vita version performs better on a technical level.
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I've listed a total of 40 games.
Out of that list, 22 games are either multiplatform releases or ports.
Meaning 55% of all the games in an already small library is a port/multiplatform, more than 50% = majority.
Whether a game is a port or released at the same time as another platform doesn't really matter. They're still available for purchase on an existing system giving consumers no incentive to purchase a Vita for that game.
For comparison, let's look at the Wii U's current library.
For a new console, that looks to be the hottest shit ever. Until you realize that the vast majority of that library are ports. For both consoles, when people say it has no gaems, they're talking about exclusives. Not multiplats, not ports.
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