[Philos-EoF-y] Why are humans so confident in beliefs that can’t be proven?

[tfocosta]

Time for another Philos-EoF-y question.

I know most of you probably asked yourself this question before or heard it over and over on your Philosophy, Sociology, Anthropology or Theology classes, like I did, but I never got a proper answer.

What do you think?

[Please don't be offended by any means by this question. This is merely a topic created to everyone interested in philosophical questions.]

 

[FAST6191]

Many reasons.

Humans are pack animals. Hard to go against the group lest they kick you out (which means death even only a couple of centuries ago).

Humans are still animals. The reason people see patterns/faces in clouds for instance.

The humans that listened to their parents about not touching the hot thing tended to be the ones that made it when touching the hot thing might have meant death.

Combined that can make it hard to unlearn patterns and also have the issue that you might have been doing it wrong all these years.

 

[tfocosta]

Many reasons.

Humans are pack animals. Hard to go against the group lest they kick you out (which means death even only a couple of centuries ago).

Humans are still animals. The reason people see patterns/faces in clouds for instance.

The humans that listened to their parents about not touching the hot thing tended to be the ones that made it when touching the hot thing might have meant death.

Combined that can make it hard to unlearn patterns and also have the issue that you might have been doing it wrong all these years.

That may apply to the earliest human civilizations. But what about today? We are living in a modern era. We have plenty of information available promptly for us. A lot of things that were considered myths long time ago have been proven and are now clear and commonly accepted. And still there's a lot we can't prove but that we continue to believe somehow. Mostly because its dubious explanations may fit our needs to keep us moving forward...

Needless to say, our modern era of today will soon be replaced by something new and even more advanced. And that's where History may repeat itself again but (re)adapted to our times.

 

[Deleted member 546149]

That's not the human's fault, it's their subconscious's fault for telling them to believe it.

 

[FAST6191]

That may apply to the earliest human civilizations. But what about today? We are living in a modern era. We have plenty of information available promptly for us. A lot of things that were considered myths long time ago have been proven and are now clear and commonly accepted. And still there's a lot we can't prove but that we continue to believe somehow. Mostly because its dubious explanations may fit our needs...

Needless to say, our modern era of today will soon be replaced by something new and even more advanced. And that's where History may repeat itself but adapted to our times.

Statistically speaking nobody finds religion on their 20s or beyond; see religiosity as time goes on in various studies (https://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/latest-report/british-social-attitudes-36/religion.aspx , though the studies having been conducted over years and that collated is probably better -- those that are 40 today being 20 last time and all that). They still breed more of them though.

Have you tried going around either actually being a racist or opposing the everything is racist/sexist/?ist/*isms are still prevalent and guiding society today mob (though that might be a religion and might be one people pick up in their 20s)?

Humans are still afraid of the dark, spiders, rustling behind the bush, it is noted taller people end up better off ( https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...y-be-successful-life-study-find-a6919431.html ).

The mental anguish of not being in a tribe also seems to weigh upon people, see also US suburbs and how many happy pills dwellers thereof gobble.

Also yeah it is current space year, however it might only have been a few centuries since Darwinian selection ended and even then not so many generations as these things go since further back still; once every 20 years (maybe even longer) means not so many generations since leaving Africa as one typically expects to see for serious evolutionary pathways.

 

[Deleted member 546149]

Statistically speaking nobody finds religion on their 20s or beyond; see religiosity as time goes on in various studies (https://www.bsa.natcen.ac.uk/latest-report/british-social-attitudes-36/religion.aspx , though the studies having been conducted over years and that collated is probably better -- those that are 40 today being 20 last time and all that). They still breed more of them though.

Have you tried going around either actually being a racist or opposing the everything is racist/sexist/?ist/*isms are still prevalent and guiding society today mob (though that might be a religion and might be one people pick up in their 20s)?

Humans are still afraid of the dark, spiders, rustling behind the bush, it is noted taller people end up better off ( https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...y-be-successful-life-study-find-a6919431.html ).

The mental anguish of not being in a tribe also seems to weigh upon people, see also US suburbs and how many happy pills dwellers thereof gobble.

Also yeah it is current space year, however it might only have been a few centuries since Darwinian selection ended and even then not so many generations as these things go since further back still; once every 20 years (maybe even longer) means not so many generations since leaving Africa as one typically expects to see for serious evolutionary pathways.

That's all because of the subconscious, don't blame the conscious and the human's own control

 

[FAST6191]

That's all because of the subconscious, don't blame the conscious and the human's own control

I am not sure what aspects that refers to but I am not sure it matters -- subconscious or not it is still a factor in the why many humans are reluctant to let go of demonstrably false, flawed, unproven or the like beliefs, create them in the first place or latch onto others that have claimed to have answers there "if you just believe".

 

[Deleted member 546149]

I am not sure what aspects that refers to but I am not sure it matters -- subconscious or not it is still a factor in the why many humans are reluctant to let go of demonstrably false, flawed, unproven or the like beliefs, create them in the first place or latch onto others that have claimed to have answers there "if you just believe".

90 percent of the brain is controlled by the subconscious according to Dr.Bruce Liption

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

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[Silent_Gunner]

Because people usually want an anchor and guide post to help them to their vision for tomorrow, and to act as a lens to interpret past, present, and future.

What shapes, colors, and metamorphosizes as a result of the former two can be varied for all sorts of reasons. Thoughts, feelings, experiences, philosophies personal, elemental, and systemic can also influence one's view of the world.

Let me put it like this: unless something crazy happens soon to throw a wrench in this ramping up of societies around the world of their citizens to gather around the anchors of their governments who are trying to hold hands with each other throughout these past two years as opposed to letting people decide their own anchors to live by and around, I honestly would not be surprised, with all of the things happening in the world, if we're seeing the first signs of events that MIGHT lead to the Book of Revelation and of events and other factors hinted to be at play in other parts of the Bible.

I can't say that's certainly what's playing out 100%. But a lot of happenings as of late could be the things that the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse are supposed to represent, along with other things that the first 7 Seals could be representing with various leaders in the world suddenly stepping down from their places of authority.

 

[AmandaRose]

90 percent of the brain is controlled by the subconscious according to Dr.Bruce Liption

Nothing that idiot says should be believed this is the guy who claims every single illness/disease in the world can be cured simply by positive thoughts. He also has claimed you can change your dna and body appearance ect by simply willing them to change. He has made numerous other bizarre claims that make zero sense like saying coronavirus does not kill anyone it's the fear of having coronavirus that kills people.

 

[Deleted member 546149]

Nothing that idiot says should be believed this is the guy who claims every single illness/disease in the world can be cured simply by positive thoughts. He also has claimed you can change your dna and body appearance ect by simply willing them to change. He has made numerous other bizarre claims that make zero sense like saying coronavirus does not kill anyone it's the fear of having coronavirus that kills people.

He means the more positive, the less negative effects

 

[Louse]

There is no comfort in the unknown or unknowable.

 

[Deleted member 546149]

There is no comfort in the unknown or unknowable.

The more positive, the better

 

[Astor]

That may apply to the earliest human civilizations. But what about today? We are living in a modern era. We have plenty of information available promptly for us. A lot of things that were considered myths long time ago have been proven and are now clear and commonly accepted. And still there's a lot we can't prove but that we continue to believe somehow. Mostly because its dubious explanations may fit our needs to keep us moving forward...

Needless to say, our modern era of today will soon be replaced by something new and even more advanced. And that's where History may repeat itself again but (re)adapted to our times.

As much as civilization has changed, our brains haven't. If we've been able to largely overcome mystical thinking it's because of the historical institutions that we've step up in order to pass down information (family, school, research departments, etc.), but a lot of that information is counter-intuitive to the way we naturally spot cause-and-effect relationships in the world. It's not just a matter of the information being widely available but of the individual being able to take it in.

Still, unprovable beliefs will always exist and that's not necessarily a bad thing. There are many things we cannot understand and we need to fill in the gaps in order to function or in order to have some kind of framework, and that goes all the way from our day-to-day superstitions to scientists relying on theoretical assumptions when there's no way to prove something empirically.