Homebrew Nintendo now has a 3DS bug bounty page open

Sketchy1

gbatemp's shadiest warez dealer
Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2016
Messages
1,553
Trophies
0
Age
25
XP
651
Country
United States
If people really want money they could always just submit webkit bugs.
Going back to that not worth the payment clause bro. That part of the agreement states they reserve the right to not pay you a dime, but take the work you did anyway. WebKit exploits probably won't be worth a lot anyway, considering 11.0+ we've only got userland for browserhax
 

Joom

 ❤❤❤
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
6,067
Trophies
1
Location
US
Website
mogbox.net
XP
6,077
Country
United States
This statement makes absolutely no sense to me.
They killed off the PSP because it was -too- insecure after the keys got leaked?
Then spent MILLIONS making the vita the safebox it is, only to kill it because it didn't sell like pancakes like the PSP did?

Are you saying something like, too insecure is bad, but too secure is also bad as well(?)
Pirates and homebrewers make up an incredibly miniscule share of the market. The Vita is dead because it doesn't have any good games. This is the folly of every system that has a shit tier library, as it deters pirates and legitimate customers away from buying the actual hardware.
 
Last edited by Joom,

Joom

 ❤❤❤
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
6,067
Trophies
1
Location
US
Website
mogbox.net
XP
6,077
Country
United States
I'm just curious, I thought the EUR PSN closing on september marked the true end for it, and I don't know of any games that got released overseas after the EUR PSN closed for PSP.
I know that after 2013 psp got a few japanese titles every year.
What_Did_I_Do_To_Deserve_This_My_Lord_EUR_PSN_PSP-PUSSYCAT
Mystic_Chronicles_EUR_PSN_PSP-PUSSYCAT

Both of these were released two days ago.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Alex658

Roomsaver

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Sep 7, 2015
Messages
951
Trophies
0
Location
garfield kart grand prix
XP
479
Country
United States
Going back to that not worth the payment clause bro. That part of the agreement states they reserve the right to not pay you a dime, but take the work you did anyway. WebKit exploits probably won't be worth a lot anyway, considering 11.0+ we've only got userland for browserhax
Ah, I see what you're saying. I guess I didn't read the fine print closely enough.
 

jDSX

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2015
Messages
1,202
Trophies
1
Age
33
Location
Lost woods
XP
1,696
Country
United States
This statement makes absolutely no sense to me.
They killed off the PSP because it was -too- insecure after the keys got leaked?
Then spent MILLIONS making the vita the safebox it is, only to kill it because it didn't sell like pancakes like the PSP did?

Are you saying something like, too insecure is bad, but too secure is also bad as well(?)

Devs don't want to make games for a console like the vita because of all the bad rep the psp has/had with piracy blah blah.. and the fact sony doesn't want to remember the console because of homebrew on it which is inevitable in this age. Nintendo shouldn't be surprised of cfw and what we can do with A9LH is my point.
 
Last edited by jDSX,

Alex658

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jun 4, 2010
Messages
1,206
Trophies
1
Age
29
Location
Colombia
XP
1,195
Country
Colombia
Pirates and homebrewers make up an incredibly miniscule share of the market. The Vita is dead because it doesn't have any good games. This is the folly of every system that has a shit tier library, as it also deters pirates and legitimate customers away from buying the actual hardware.

I know, i was asking the person what they actually meant. Their wording confused me.
There must be a reason why sony abandoned it with their 1st party titles.
 

Flying Scotsman

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Sep 7, 2016
Messages
350
Trophies
0
XP
1,333
Country
United States
>create patches
>revert patches in the hacking community because you know how it was done
>repeat
>???
>profit

Unless Nintendo start signing them with private keys...

It'd become more like bloody Mission Impossible getting your hands on the signing keys (via various means much like how GeoHot got Sony's for the PS3) to reverse the patch you submitted.
 

Alex658

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Jun 4, 2010
Messages
1,206
Trophies
1
Age
29
Location
Colombia
XP
1,195
Country
Colombia
Well yeah. Being too secure can be bad. Like being always online or DRM that cripples the system

Well, that's just being bullshit imo.
I don't live in a 1st world country where this is even feasible. Unless they pretend that I use my phone as a hotspot and validate the content that way, which, yeah. not happening. mobile data is ultra shitty here.
I would understand if you're talking about a normal PC that's mostly connected to the internet at all times. But that shouldn't be the case by default for a console.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SaffronXL

Joom

 ❤❤❤
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
6,067
Trophies
1
Location
US
Website
mogbox.net
XP
6,077
Country
United States
Unless Nintendo start signing them with private keys...

It'd become more like bloody Mission Impossible getting your hands on the signing keys (via various means much like how GeoHot got Sony's for the PS3) to reverse the patch you submitted.
Doesn't matter. The bounty page clearly states that any material submitted immediately becomes Nintendo's property and that the submitter may not further modify the material in order to circumvent any patch created for it. Anyone is free to do so, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo will slam the legal hammer down on them (or anyone that propagates it) super fucking hard. Like, if Nedwill were to submit slowhax to them then go "lel, fuk u" and change it up a bit to further circumvent any preventative measure Nintendo created against it would land him with a pretty lawsuit.
 
Last edited by Joom,
  • Like
Reactions: Deleted User

Sketchy1

gbatemp's shadiest warez dealer
Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2016
Messages
1,553
Trophies
0
Age
25
XP
651
Country
United States
Doesn't matter. The bounty page clearly states that any material submitted immediately becomes Nintendo's property and that the submitter may not further modify the material in order to circumvent any patch created for it. Anyone is free to do so, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo will slam the legal hammer down on them (or anyone that propagates it) super fucking hard.
I doubt it, cause they are asking people to intentionally hack their system, which is meant to benefit them from creating a piracy proof system. They can't prove they really pirated any thing, and the last thing they'd want to do is punish the hand feeding them these exploits.
 

Joom

 ❤❤❤
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
6,067
Trophies
1
Location
US
Website
mogbox.net
XP
6,077
Country
United States
I doubt it, cause they are asking people to intentionally hack their system, which is meant to benefit them from creating a piracy proof system. They can't prove they really pirated any thing, and the last thing they'd want to do is punish the hand feeding them these exploits.
I...what? Yes, they are asking people to intentionally hack their systems for the sake of security auditing. But the bounty page also states that the code cannot be further modified once submitted to Nintendo. I honestly don't understand how you derived your statement from my context.
 

Master Dimentio

The Pleaser Of Crowds
Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2016
Messages
699
Trophies
0
Age
34
Location
Making my perfect world.
Website
www.youtube.com
XP
866
Country
United States
If you are apart of this community... if you have ever done anything whatsoever to hack your 3DS whether the info from this site or where ever.... why in the holy hell would you sell out to Nintendo for money and put the entire 3ds hacking community under fire. Now that would be disgraceful.
 
D

Deleted User

Guest
why in the holy hell would you sell out to Nintendo for money and put the entire 3ds hacking community under fire. Now that would be disgraceful.
Lmao, because this community is disgraceful

If somebody just downloads .cias off of iso site, why the fuck would they care about being "honorable" and "grateful" to this community. It's a pirates community, they don't care about the integrity of the community.

People in this community leech off people who make homebrew and dump cias, why would they not sell out?


 

Joom

 ❤❤❤
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
6,067
Trophies
1
Location
US
Website
mogbox.net
XP
6,077
Country
United States
If you are apart of this community... if you have ever done anything whatsoever to hack your 3DS whether the info from this site or where ever.... why in the holy hell would you sell out to Nintendo for money and put the entire 3ds hacking community under fire. Now that would be disgraceful.
Nobody is. Smea, Yeallows8, and SALT have all stated that they're not interested. Of course they don't speak for others, but the general consensus is nobody cares. Like I said, in comparison to other bug bounties ran by major companies, Nintendo just makes themselves seem like the crying little kid on the playground that just got his toy taken away. They should have started this campaign at the very beginning of the 3DS's life, but instead they just assume that the majority of their customers are children, or staunch adults, and continue to pander in such a way. NoJ has seen the western world either as closed minded adults that won't open themselves to child-like enjoyment (hence the US SNES color scheme being rather monochrome, as opposed to the Japanese and European releases), or as total retards that need hand holding throughout their entire gaming experience (hence all the spoon feeding and NERFing of current games). They, for whatever reason, cannot accept that there is a middle ground of hackers and hardcore gamers until now.
 
Last edited by Joom,

Master Dimentio

The Pleaser Of Crowds
Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2016
Messages
699
Trophies
0
Age
34
Location
Making my perfect world.
Website
www.youtube.com
XP
866
Country
United States
Because lets say you continue to need hacking for one reason or another. When you hack... when you install a cia you are a hacker. You are exactly what Nintendo targets. And theres to my knowledge no easy way to reverse it either. All I'm saying is lets not put all of us in jeopardy for cash and that includes yourself too.
 

Joom

 ❤❤❤
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
6,067
Trophies
1
Location
US
Website
mogbox.net
XP
6,077
Country
United States
Lmao, because this community is disgraceful

If somebody just downloads .cias off of iso site, why the fuck would they care about being "honorable" and "grateful" to this community. It's a pirates community, they don't care about the integrity of the community.

People in this community leech off people who make homebrew and dump cias, why would they not sell out?

I don't, and I gladly promote that. Sure, the amount of piracy that has been achieved in this community is overwhelming, but how it was achieved is glorious. I live for that. I've been a reverse engineer for a quite a long time (I started out with releasing keygens for Adobe CS2), and I love the ambition behind these kinds of scenes. The idea behind it all isn't copyright infringement, but rather achieving what people say can't be done. We don't care about costing or saving a company money; we only care about breaking their pompous protections.
 
Last edited by Joom,
  • Like
Reactions: Deleted User

Master Dimentio

The Pleaser Of Crowds
Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2016
Messages
699
Trophies
0
Age
34
Location
Making my perfect world.
Website
www.youtube.com
XP
866
Country
United States
That's what I'm talking about. I'm just very unsure why someone would give Nintendo the kind of inforamtion that means they might not be able to do the hacking they were doing anymore. And for what? Money? If I did something of the sort I'd feel pretty bad that other hackers doing what I do might have trouble down the road cause of some info passed along to nintendo
 

Joom

 ❤❤❤
Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2016
Messages
6,067
Trophies
1
Location
US
Website
mogbox.net
XP
6,077
Country
United States
That's what I'm talking about. I'm just very unsure why someone would give Nintendo the kind of inforamtion that means they might not be able to do the hacking they were doing anymore. And for what? Money? If I did something of the sort I'd feel pretty bad that other hackers doing what I do might have trouble down the road cause of some info passed along to nintendo
If somebody in closed groups leaked some kind of info (it's happened before in this scene) then the group is definitely all over them. "Snitches get stitches" has been a long standing principle of this scene, which I totally respect. It's more than can be said about the PC/Mac scene. Gaming scenes tend to be quite loyal because everyone involved is your typical, average Joe. Though I can say that $22 grand is a major incentive, but they're obviously targeting 33c3 speakers with this. They really don't care about save editors, NTR/Gateway cheating, or common userland exploits because all these things don't cost them money. They just posted that to save face. What they really want is another A9LH (the otpless findings, for example, would be something they would pay for provided it weren't already public). This is why the pay gap is so wide; $100 to $22,000. Yeah right. With other bug bounties, you get a static amount for any bug found.
 
Last edited by Joom,

Sketchy1

gbatemp's shadiest warez dealer
Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2016
Messages
1,553
Trophies
0
Age
25
XP
651
Country
United States
I...what? Yes, they are asking people to intentionally hack their systems for the sake of security auditing. But the bounty page also states that the code cannot be further modified once submitted to Nintendo. I honestly don't understand how you derived your statement from my context.
I think that means that they give you permission to hack it once you find a said exploit, but after that, you can't further modify your system
 

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum

General chit-chat
Help Users
    AncientBoi @ AncientBoi: And my first PC