Net Neutrality: what it is, and why you should care

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UPDATE: It's been voted for repeal. The FCC took Net Neutrality to a vote, and it was 3-2, in favor of repeal. This doesn't mean overnight upheaval, but things will certainly change, for better or worse, in due time.
If you've been on the internet at all the past week, there's a high chance that you've heard of something called "Net Neutrality", and you've also likely heard that there might be huge changes to your usage of the internet entirely. This post serves as a quick information briefing on what Net Neutrality is, what could happen if it's repealed, and the current events going on regarding it, and just general visibility to let the community in general be informed.

What is this Net Neutrality thing?


The basic definition of network neutrality is simple: all internet traffic is considered and treated equally. It was established just a bit under three years ago, in February 2015. It prevented companies like Comcast Xfinity and AT&T U-verse from speeding up, or slowing down certain sites based upon content. If you remember, back in July 2017, mobile provider Verizon admitted to targeting Netflix traffic, and specifically throttling it, negatively affecting customers' use of Netflix. Going back to 2014, there were also issues with Comcast customers, and, that's right, Netflix users, as connections to Netflix were notoriously slow. Netflix then entered a legal deal with Comcast, in order to have Netflix connections be faster than they previously were. The 2014 incident was pre-net neutrality, and shows that before the law was enacted, certain sites like Netflix were indeed slowed, and had to specifically bargain with large telecommunication monopolies like Comcast to get fair speeds out to their customers.

In April 2017, the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), Ajit Pai, revealed that he had plans to repeal net neutrality. It's worth noting that Pai was once the Associate General Counsel of Verizon Communications, an incredibly high up position with an ISP, who we've stated before as having throttled websites in the past.

Pai's statements on the matter included saying such things as "[the government] would be able to stop micromanaging the internet" and that the FCC and internet service providers would simply have to be "transparent about their practices so that consumers can buy a service plan that's best for them". Shortly after, Comcast began vocally supporting these statements, claiming that government regulation of the internet has been harming innovation and investments of Comcast. David Cohen, the company's Chief Diversity Officer, said that "customers would be clearly informed on our practices [...] Comcast maintains that it does and will not block, throttle, or discriminate against lawful content".

Within the movement for repealing net neutrality, also comes with power being given to the Federal Trade Commission. The FTC would then have the ability to legally charge internet service providers that were not made clear to customers.

You may notice, that within any of the claims made by Pai or Comcast, that equal traffic was never made the focus, instead putting emphasis on making sure these monopolies must be clear and transparent about what they do, but never laying down any solid rules about what they need to be transparent about or why. And, of course, if the FTC were to go after AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner, or other assorted companies for not being transparent, these legal cases would find themselves taking years to make their way to court, allowing for them to have their way with their customers until a definitive legal ruling. Therein lies the first batch of unease and controversy with the repeal.

In short, net neutrality is a fairly new regulation, which allows for equal traffic between all sites while using the internet. The chairman of the FCC and former higher-up of Verizon wants to repeal it, however. This would allow less government interference with ISPs, but would also allow those ISPs to do what they wish, so long as they're "transparent".

Does repealing Net Neutrality have any benefits?

Spoiler alert: not really

From the inception of the internet, and up until 2015, Americans have gone without net neutrality. Ajit Pai claims that should we not have net neutrality anymore, more rural areas would be able to have more companies and providers, and it would allow for more competition and choice for the consumer. However, these smaller companies would also have to fight it out with established services, with years of experience and infrastructure refinements.

As a side note, I've spent thirty minutes researching a potential "pro" argument. I've not found many that seem reasonable. I've listed in the spoiler tag below arguments from other websites and blogs.

Green Garage Blog: While net neutrality allows for freedom of speech, the downside is that almost anything can be posted to the internet. This means that the cruelest or insensitive information imaginable can end up on the internet, and as a result, it can cause a lot of problems from people that otherwise wouldn’t be prone to being under the microscope of criticism. This means that people can post cruel, intimidating, or other harassing messages and often get away with it thanks to free speech legislation. So it can be a very toxic environment for a lot of people to put up with.

Vittana: Reduced income from internet uses limits infrastructure improvements.
There are certain businesses and high-use individuals who consume large amounts of bandwidth every month. If net neutrality was removed, these high-level consumers would be asked to pay more for what they consume. This added income could then be used to upgrade the infrastructure of each internet service provider, making it possible for advanced fiber networks to be installed in many communities.

AEI: But in many instances, fast lanes, zero-rating, and the like benefit customers. In separate research, both former FCC Chief Economist Michael Katz (with Ben Hermalin) and I (with Janice Hauge) showed that fast lanes benefit small content providers in their attempts to compete with established industry leaders. AEI scholar Roslyn Layton has shown that elderly and low-income consumers benefit from zero-rating services.

Basically, the only benefit would be if America's current economy wasn't dominated by monopolistic ISPs. Below is an interview with Ajit Pai, showing his perspective.


Scrapping these rules, Pai told Reason's Nick Gillespie, won't harm consumers or the public interest because there was no reason for them in the first place. The rationales were mere "phantoms that were conjured up by people who wanted the FCC for political reasons to overregulate the internet," Pai told Gillespie. "We were not living in a digital dystopia in the years leading up to 2015."

If left in place, however, the Title II rules could harm the commercial internet, which Pai described as "one of the most incredible free market innovations in history."

"Companies like Google and Facebook and Netflix became household names precisely because we didn't have the government micromanaging how the internet would operate," said Pai, who noted that the Clinton-era decision not to regulate the Internet like a phone utility or a broadcast network was one of the most important factors in the rise of our new economy.

Pai also pushed back against claims that he's a right-wing radical who's "fucking things up."

"[I ascribe to] the very radical, right-wing position that the Clinton administration basically got it right when it came to digital infrastructure."


What happens if/when this gets repealed, and what does this mean for you?


The worst part of this, is that there's no definitive answer of what WILL happen, only what CAN happen. What has people concerned, though, is the potential things that larger ISPs can do with this new power, should net neutrality be repealed. Internet service providers could slow access to specific sites, and speed up others, in theory, others specifically being sites who pay ISPs for faster access, and those partnered or in contracts with ISPs. Websites like Google, Amazon, Reddit, Etsy, Netflix, and many more have all broadcast their support of net neutrality, stating that without these rules in place thanks to net neutrality, internet providers would become gatekeepers to the internet, restricting what customers can see. Without definitive government restrictions, these companies could be free to split access to the internet into packages, like cable TV, indeed making true on the intention of lowering the cost of internet access, but also making it more difficult and expensive to see all of the internet, as you can right now.

Likely, what will happen, though everything is up in the air, is that certain ISPs will utilize what's called "fast lanes" and "zero rating". Fast lanes are sort of like what we talked about at the start, with Netflix and Comcast. Currently, these fast lanes and zero rating are used with mobile phone data. AT&T customers can watch DirecTV (owned by AT&T) via their mobile data, without it counting towards their monthly cap. These rules could be applied to home internet as well; if you're a Comcast user, and you want to watch Hulu (owned by NBC-Universal-Comcast), maybe your connection to Hulu will be lightning fast, thanks to these theoretical fast lanes, and they won't go towards your Comcast monthly 1 Terabyte home cap. But what if you want to watch Netflix? Either Netflix will have much lower picture quality, or take a longer time to connect to. And if Netflix pays a fee, or gets into a contract once again with Comcast, then that potentially means that Netflix's increased costs move down to the consumer, who also now has to pay more for a service as well.

What can we do?


The only thing left to do is let your voice be heard. Social media has exploded without people decrying the impending repeal of net neutrality, and the negatives that it would entail, to the point of where the majority of Reddit has been plastered with net neutrality posts.

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The FCC will take the repeal to a vote on December 14, 2017. It is highly predicted that the repeal will pass, and net neutrality will come to an end. Millions have taken to the site "battleforthenet" and "callmycongress" to contact their local representatives and congressmen in order to show that American citizens don't want net neutrality destroyed.

You can learn more at the links below. Hopefully this is helpful in describing what net neutrality is, and why it shouldn't be taken away.

:arrow:Techcrunch: These are the arguments against net neutrality and why they're wrong

:arrow: Extra Credits: What a closed internet means

:arrow:Phillip DeFranco: The Internet is under attack

:arrow:Save the internet: What you need to know


:arrow:Ars Technica: RIP net neutrality
 

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I doubt it will come to that since not only has that not really happened in other countries (portugal doesn't count since the image people keep linking is fake) but it hasn't happened in US history either even before these rules, nor during the loophole filled Title II rules.

It's not 'fake', just misleading. The picture, which depicts a mobile plan, offers general access with a cap on data, just as any mobile plan. But you can buy extra data for a particular interest area to suit you personally, i.e. social media, youtube/streaming video, etc. It's actually a nice option they're offering, since you can get more extra data for a specific type of traffic for less than the cost of stepping up to the next general data tier.

And this has nothing to do with home, non-cellular internet access, though those posting the picture usually aren't volunteering that info.
 
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It's not 'fake', just misleading. The picture, which depicts a mobile plan, offers general access with a cap on data, just as any mobile plan. But you can buy extra data for a particular interest area to suit you personally, i.e. social media, youtube/streaming video, etc. It's actually a nice option they're offering, since you can get more extra data for a specific type of traffic for less than the cost of stepping up to the next general data tier.

And this has nothing to do with home, non-cellular internet access, though those posting the picture usually aren't volunteering that info.
I'm referring more to the one that uses US Dollars. Lemme go dig it up and you'll see which one I mean.

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I'm not an expert on portugal and never will be nor will I claim to be, but I'm fairly certain this image is not fully accurate.
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Especially since I've never seen this webpage, and it looks to be just a mockup, one that changes design constantly.
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(Ignore the AT&T one in the middle.)
 
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the "internet is dead" thing makes me laugh it's as if people think that this will literally mean they'll turn the internet off or something lol
 
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It's not 'fake', just misleading. The picture, which depicts a mobile plan, offers general access with a cap on data, just as any mobile plan. But you can buy extra data for a particular interest area to suit you personally, i.e. social media, youtube/streaming video, etc. It's actually a nice option they're offering, since you can get more extra data for a specific type of traffic for less than the cost of stepping up to the next general data tier.

And this has nothing to do with home, non-cellular internet access, though those posting the picture usually aren't volunteering that info.
Yup, paying extra for a data plan for specific kinds of traffic is going to be great. Their most popular data plans are going to be for porn, pirated movies, pirated games, and pirated everything else. Since they won't have data plans for all of that, kiss all your pirating activities goodbye.
 

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Yup, paying extra for a data plan for specific kinds of traffic is going to be great. Their most popular data plans are going to be for porn, pirated movies, pirated games, and pirated everything else. Since they won't have data plans for all of that, kiss all your pirating activities goodbye.
*unzips vpn*
nuthin legal, kiddo
 
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ok, yeah I haven't seen that one. The one I know of was reported in an editorial as total fact in the LA Times.
Behold, lies.
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-portugal-internet-20171127-story.html

I'm not a big fan of Snopes, but they did cover this one well.

https://www.snopes.com/portugal-net-neutrality/
Yeah, that's the kind of shit I'm talking about right there. Fuck the LA Times and any website proposing this nonsense. They're the exact reason why we have all these disingenuous, or overly anxious, or livid suicidal people.
 

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Yup, paying extra for a data plan for specific kinds of traffic is going to be great. Their most popular data plans are going to be for porn, pirated movies, pirated games, and pirated everything else. Since they won't have data plans for all of that, kiss all your pirating activities goodbye.

You're still not getting it. It's for EXTRA data in a specific traffic type ON TOP OF your general data plan. If you have a data plan that limits you to 8gb but you hardly use your data allowance for anything but facebook and want more, pay X amount to get some extra specifically for Facebook, or pay X times 2 to go to the 16GB plan. But there's nothing blocking your access to any part or site of the internet on that Portugal mobile plan. You can get porn, without needing to pay for the 'porn' package. Relax.
 

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oh if only i can say what i want w/o the fucking fbi's foot up my ass I'm not against the POTUS in general the entire corrupt US government needs a serious overhaul any ideas of other countries to immigrate to? i feel like i might need to flee soon if anything gets worse.....and it will funny how you can say hate speech within reason but overthrowing a government could get you jail time such fucking hippocrits
 
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oh if only i can say what i want w/o the fucking fbi's foot up my ass I'm not against the POTUS in general the entire corrupt US government needs a serious overhaul any ideas of other countries to immigrate to? i feel like i might need to flee soon if anything gets worse.....and it will funny how you can say hate speech within reason but overthrowing a government could get you jail time such fucking hippocrits
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I don't think it really matters if the portugal thing actually happened. What matters here is to understand what could happen in worst case scenarios. This is just one of them.

For the record it did happen a lot in France on mobile internet not that long ago. You would have to buy packages to access certain sites (i.e. pay $10 and get access to Facebook). And this is not a lie, I was there and saw it with my own eyes. I am sure other french people can back me up on that.
 
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I don't think it really matters if the portugal thing actually happened. What matters here is to understand what could happen in worst case scenarios. This is just one of them.

For the record it did happen a lot in France on mobile internet not that long ago. You would have to buy packages to access certain sites (i.e. pay $10 and get access to Facebook). And this is not a lie, I was there and saw it with my own eyes. I am sure other french people can back me up on that.
Got any names? Otherwise this is basically anecdotal.
 

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You're still not getting it. It's for EXTRA data in a specific traffic type ON TOP OF your general data plan. If you have a data plan that limits you to 8gb but you hardly use your data allowance for anything but facebook and want more, pay X amount to get some extra specifically for Facebook, or pay X times 2 to go to the 16GB plan. But there's nothing blocking your access to any part or site of the internet on that Portugal mobile plan. You can get porn, without needing to pay for the 'porn' package. Relax.
You're not making sense. Why would anybody pay for "extra data" for a specific traffic site? If your plan has a data cap, then you are going to use that data how you use it. If you are on facebook all day, and that's the only site you use, then that's where all your data will go under your general data cap. If you watch porn all day, then that's where your data will go. What you're saying is that you will pay for a general data allotment, then pay more for specific sites that you visit more frequently?? Data is data. With your logic, you might pay $50 a month for 100GB worth of data. Pay an extra $10 per month for an additional 10GB's worth of data reserved for Facebook since you use that site a lot. This is going to make a mess of things. I would rather just have a $75 data package that allots 200GB's of general data usage per month. I have actually downloaded over 1TB worth of PS3 games over the past month. My ISP is not Veriozon, or Comcast. They don't have any data limitations. But of course these new laws are going to inspire certain business practices that I'm sure my ISP won't be able to resist. So yeah, this will be the end of the internet, at least how I have known it for the past 10 years. I would say that the primary motive behind all of this activity with the FCC is to combat piracy.
 
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Also it is relevant whether it happened or not, because otherwise it's just people gushing out hot air about something that hasn't actually happened yet. Hell it got so bad the company themselves had to make a public image that the image was fake. All images like that do is stir people up about shit that *could* happen but *hasn't.* You may as well be afraid of your own shadow at that rate.
 
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Lol you're a furry faggot and your opinion isn't valid

Oh shut the hell up already, I don't give a flying shit about your festering gob, so shut it. It's not like your opinions are somehow more valid than anyone else's. You don't even live in the US, so why do you care? Grow up.


Ugh....! Comments like yours are completely unnecessary, so yeah, thanks.:angry:
 
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Also it is relevant that it happened, because otherwise it's just people gushing out hot air about something that hasn't actually happened yet. Hell it got so bad the company themselves had to make a public image that the image was fake. All images like that do is stir people up about shit that *could* happen but *hasn't.* You may as well be afraid of your own shadow at that rate.
So your whole arguement is that we should ignore the potential dangers because they haven't happened yet? That's irrational.
 
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So your whole arguement is that we should ignore the potential dangers because they haven't happened yet? That's irrational.
Here, this might be on your reading level
https://www.educents.com/hooked-on-...MIj8iwkd-K2AIVXbnACh3tVAEAEAQYASABEgIrufD_BwE

My point is that people are getting too worked up over shit that "could" happen, but you "could" also just get shot walking in the street, or you "could" get in a car wreck, or you "could" just have a heart attack. It's a terrifying thought but people are getting worked up over possibilities like they're the reality they're living in, and it's irrational.
 

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