Microsoft helping Geohot in his legal battle against Sony?

[[M]artin]

Why is this even in the News section? Who actually read the source?

The article is pure speculation, relies on an anonymous, unnamed source "close to the matter", and pulls on a Twitter quote that a Win7Phone dev gave about inviting Geohot to "build cool stuff".

Seriously, if you truly believe this article, you need to learn what a credible source is.

Fucking hilarious.

 

[silverbullet1080]

If true then, good show MS.

 

[~De arimasu]

This could be a very smart move on MS's part. Taking down Sony would really only leave Nintendo to be a competitor.

I dont think Microsoft's thinking that Nintendo's a big threat
and its Sony replace the O with i and take out the Y and you have SIN
ok back on topic

Take the M, c, r, o, o and f from Microsoft. Put a t in the front and shift the s to the right and you've got Tits!

 

[alidsl]

Criminal? Lol, okay talk to me when you grow up and actually understand the case.

This post have nothing to relate about of what I was typing about. Please refrain from posting to me unless it make sense. Telling me to grow up is an understatement, I'm not living inside my parents house. You are on the other hand I can't assume. The case is about a hacker named Geohot who was warned by Sony before hand to stop hacking on their console, Geohot wanted to challenge Sony and continue on hacking for the lulz. Sony got upset, got their lawyers and did some paperwork. Next moment, Geohot is getting sued. Geohot went further due him failing to realize what a company can do. He post his work all over the internet out of a tantrum. So basically is a case between a baby vs a company. Yeah well put, a Gamer vs a COMPANY!!

Right.
You know Geohot jailbreaks the iPhone too? He's never been taken to court by Apple, because they know they have no case. This is more of a case of Sony's naïvety, trying to control the damage. He wasn't the one who discovered the private keys, but because Geohot is the most prominent (and infamous) of the PS3 hackers, they're going after him.
What the other guy said was right - you don't understand the case. Therefore, you have no reason to comment.

Geohot's never been taken to court by apple because there has already been a court case about iPhone jailbreaking that apple lost. Thus making iPhone jailbreaking completely legal

 

[Gnargle]

Criminal? Lol, okay talk to me when you grow up and actually understand the case.

This post have nothing to relate about of what I was typing about. Please refrain from posting to me unless it make sense. Telling me to grow up is an understatement, I'm not living inside my parents house. You are on the other hand I can't assume. The case is about a hacker named Geohot who was warned by Sony before hand to stop hacking on their console, Geohot wanted to challenge Sony and continue on hacking for the lulz. Sony got upset, got their lawyers and did some paperwork. Next moment, Geohot is getting sued. Geohot went further due him failing to realize what a company can do. He post his work all over the internet out of a tantrum. So basically is a case between a baby vs a company. Yeah well put, a Gamer vs a COMPANY!!

Right.
You know Geohot jailbreaks the iPhone too? He's never been taken to court by Apple, because they know they have no case. This is more of a case of Sony's naïvety, trying to control the damage. He wasn't the one who discovered the private keys, but because Geohot is the most prominent (and infamous) of the PS3 hackers, they're going after him.
What the other guy said was right - you don't understand the case. Therefore, you have no reason to comment.

Geohot's never been taken to court by apple because there has already been a court case about iPhone jailbreaking that apple lost. Thus making iPhone jailbreaking completely legal

After he jailbroke it on 3.0. And 3.1.
Then someone took Apple to court for voiding his warranty after he jailbroke his iPhone. They didn't take anyone to court.
That's what got the law changed.

 

[GameWinner]

Lets get ready to rumble!!
Microsoft and Geohot Vs Sony!
Epic battle begins in Court!

 

[Vashyron]

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/microsoft-d...nse-fund-82155/

Nope.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

Sony, you messed with the wrong man.

Microsoft and Sony have been in "war" since, and now Microsoft just got lucky and is beating Sony.

 

[raulpica]

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/microsoft-d...nse-fund-82155/

Nope.

Yeah, ultra-reputable "source" you've got there, pal.

A guy claiming to have talked with geohot, with no proof of that whatsoever, and with the really high possibility that geohot was told by MS itself to deny any involvement in case someone asked.

 

[GameWinner]

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/microsoft-d...nse-fund-82155/

Nope.

Well I was trolled
Nevermind, raulpica explained it, not an official source.

 

[Vashyron]

I'm not so sure why one of the more "popular" Playstation scene sites would risk to claim themselves that they talked to Geohot without it being really what he said. (Whether Geohot lied or not.)

If Geohot in the future then says he did accept donations from Microsoft the site would seem like a massive liar.

 

[jonesman99]

Do we really know what Sony is suing Geohot and Fail0verFlow for?

First, I read it was the fact that they found the commonkey that can make any piece of data for the PS3 official, and posted it on the internet.

What is the current reason for suing them?

Not flaming Sony or trying to enrage the fanboys, I'm just trying to get the story as straight as possible for the sake of sanity.

 

[RoyalCardMan]

Do we really know what Sony is suing Geohot and Fail0verFlow for?

First, I read it was the fact that they found the commonkey that can make any piece of data for the PS3 official, and posted it on the internet.

What is the current reason for suing them?

Not flaming Sony or trying to enrage the fanboys, I'm just trying to get the story as straight as possible for the sake of sanity.

Isn't it possible for Sony to sue for many things?

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Do we really know what Sony is suing Geohot and Fail0verFlow for?

First, I read it was the fact that they found the commonkey that can make any piece of data for the PS3 official, and posted it on the internet.

What is the current reason for suing them?

Not flaming Sony or trying to enrage the fanboys, I'm just trying to get the story as straight as possible for the sake of sanity.

No it's still the same. Only thing is Sony is bending the truth, saying GeoHot used the PSN servers to do it, and he wanted money for it (which, donations is totally different).

 

[Wintrale]

No it's still the same. Only thing is Sony is bending the truth, saying GeoHot used the PSN servers to do it, and he wanted money for it (which, donations is totally different).

Actually, you're wrong there. If you recall, Geohot leaked Sony's key and then posted on his own website that "if you want a more secure console, get in touch with me". That could actually be construed as blackmail or an ultimatum - "pay me to stop spreading this information, or I'll make things even worse for you".

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Yeah but that's a gray area. I, along with many others, looked and understood it as:

"If you don't want someone else doing worse to you, you can hire me". Like, he was offering his services. Not blackmail. So it all depends on who was reading it.

 

[purplesludge]

I'm pretty sure the proper quote is "If you want your next console to be secure then get in touch".

 

[Wintrale]

Yeah but that's a gray area. I, along with many others, looked and understood it as:

"If you don't want someone else doing worse to you, you can hire me". Like, he was offering his services. Not blackmail. So it all depends on who was reading it.

Oh, I know that. That's why I think Geohot was clever. It can be read as blackmail but, since its up for interpretation, Sony can't use it in the case or anything.

 

[Issac]

Probably isn't true, as psx-scene said... However if they did donate, it wouldn't be to "get sony out of the competition" or anything... It's more likely to help him win his case to continue hacking, leading to the coders getting to know the workarounds, leading to them fixing the holes...

Probably why he got a WP7, "Hack it, tell us, we'll fix it".

(And yes, that's how many (if not all) bank sites work! Let hackers try to hack it under supervision and patch it up so what they find is removed)

Edit: While I was typing the above, posts were made about this, with that quote! if the next should be secure get in touch, that's how it often works, and if sony thinks "hey let's get him in jail instead" they're stupid... They could've gained a lot from this guy instead.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I'm pretty sure the proper quote is "If you want your next console to be secure then get in touch".

QUOTE(ShadowSoldier @ Feb 27 2011, 11:41 PM) Yeah but that's a gray area. I, along with many others, looked and understood it as:

"If you don't want someone else doing worse to you, you can hire me". Like, he was offering his services. Not blackmail. So it all depends on who was reading it.

Oh, I know that. That's why I think Geohot was clever. It can be read as blackmail but, since its up for interpretation, Sony can't use it in the case or anything.

Even then. He's what, 21 years old? It wouldn't sound if he's blackmailing. The guy has been offered TONS of jobs and has won a lot of awards for his brains, what does he have to gain from blackmailing you know?