If you bought the newest iteration of the Metal Gear Solid series to play on your computer, you might have been surprised to notice that the DVD disc that was in the box did not actually contain any game files. All it contains is an installation binary for Steam, allowing you to download the game in full from the Internet (~30 GB).

What do you think about this? Should the game have been sold as Blu-ray? Or perhaps multiple DVDs?

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[GamerzHell9137]

might as well just get the ps4 version

HBAO+ on Nvidia GPUs says no.

Anyways, wasn't it known way before that the game is Steam only and the physical version would get the key for the game on disc or some sort?
Ohh and the game has Denuvo protection, meaning it was never supposed to be DRM Free.

 

[ihaveahax]

Anyways, wasn't it known way before that the game is Steam only and the physical version would get the key for the game on disc or some sort?

Source? Being "Steam only" doesn't mean that the retail version can't have multiple discs with the game files, does it?

 

[GamerzHell9137]

Source? Being "Steam only" doesn't mean that the retail version can't have multiple discs with the game files, does it?

I bet it has to do with Denuvo for not being able to package it on disc.

 

[ihaveahax]

I bet it has to do with Denuvo for not being able to package it on disc.

I took a look at Batman: Arkham Knight which used Denuvo. Someone said it had over 5 discs. The ~30GB download was a day-one patch.

• http://steamcommunity.com/app/208650/discussions/0/594821545178937596/
  "I have the Retail with 5 DVDs, the installation with the last Disc finished at 7.7GB and now i should DL over 30 GB? WOT?"

 

[endoverend]

HBAO+ on Nvidia GPUs says no.

Whatever you say Tom Bombadildo

 

[GamerzHell9137]

I took a look at Batman: Arkham Knight which used Denuvo. Someone said it had over 5 discs. The ~30GB download was a day-one patch.

• http://steamcommunity.com/app/208650/discussions/0/594821545178937596/
  "I have the Retail with 5 DVDs, the installation with the last Disc finished at 7.7GB and now i should DL over 30 GB? WOT?"

Yeah, they still needed to download 30 gigs of it.... which is like.... the whole game lol

 

[ihaveahax]

Yeah, they still needed to download 30 gigs of it.... which is like.... the whole game lol

But the point is the game could still be installed from the game's 5 discs that came in a box, and it's a game that uses Denuvo.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

But the point is the game could still be installed from the game's 5 discs that came in a box, and it's a game that uses Denuvo.

Still kills the purpose if you gotta download 30 GB. And MGSV is 20 gigs so its less than the... "update" for Batman.

 

[ihaveahax]

Still kills the purpose if you gotta download 30 GB. And MGSV is 20 gigs so its less than the... "update" for Batman.

I think you're missing the point. You stated that the game couldn't be packaged on the disc because it used Denuvo, yet Batman: Arkham Knight did just that.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

I think you're missing the point. You stated that the game couldn't be packaged on the disc because it used Denuvo, yet Batman: Arkham Knight did just that.

People still couldn't play the game, its useless if you gotta download additional stuff.
And that still doesn't mean that that Denuvo was on the discs, no? This is starting to be an useless discussion too. If there's a game that uses Dunevo and that has an physical PC release with all of the game files on the disc then i'll say that i was wrong.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

They should at least have included the Steam game files on the disc although that would have required them to use multiple DVDs. Just so people won't have to download the entire game but only the latest update, since it kind of ruins the point of buying a physical game.

 

[Hells Malice]

I'm surprised anyone noticed

 

[ihaveahax]

I'm surprised anyone noticed

How would people not notice?

 

[Hells Malice]

How would people not notice?

because the last time I saw a PC gaming section in a physical store, there was more dust than game. That was about a year ago. Don't think i've seen one since.

If I ever bought a physical copy of a PC game, it'd be for my shelf and i'd be downloading the game like the rest of the world.

 

[ihaveahax]

because the last time I saw a PC gaming section in a physical store, there was more dust than game. That was about a year ago. Don't think i've seen one since.

If I ever bought a physical copy of a PC game, it'd be for my shelf and i'd be downloading the game like the rest of the world.

Well many people buy retail because of slow internet connections. Especially with how bad Internet is in some parts of the world, including the US.

 

[Hells Malice]

Well many people buy retail because of slow internet connections. Especially with how bad Internet is in some parts of the world, including the US.

I think 'many' is a gross exaggeration. Internet speeds are shittier here than the US as far as i've seen, and even with my shitty internet I get by just fine downloading ridiculously sized games.

 

[DarkFlare69]

If they truly wanted to save money, they wouldn't have put a disc with only the steam installer.

Or not even given us a disc, just a code or some shit

 

[ihaveahax]

Or not even given us a disc, just a code or some shit

Seeing this kind of thing kind of makes us wonder why there's even a retail version at all. There's no real benefits. There is one definite downside though: no refunds through Steam.

 

[VinsCool]

Seeing this kind of thing kind of makes us wonder why there's even a retail version at all. There's no real benefits. There is one definite downside though: no refunds through Steam.

At least, they could just made an empty bluray + download code package, so we could backup the game once it is downloaded.

 

[ihaveahax]

At least, they could just made an empty bluray + download code package, so we could backup the game once it is downloaded.

Not everyone has blu-ray drives; I think there's a growing number of players with no disc drive actually. Maybe they could include a free drive with every box!