Homebrew Clarification Thread - What is going on?

[Deleted-236924]

Not exactly, you still have sysnand but you are just bypassing it automatically. It's still there completely and if SD card was taken out it would load sysnand.
It would be cool to have an actual sig patched sysnand that would be able to load from coldboot no matter what just like how I can install firmware 6.60 PRO-C on my PSP and it'll always boot to it no matter what and let me run homebrew and .isos directly

Hacked sysnand that would have full kernel access for installing stuff and running unsigned content/homebrew, that would be awesome.
Might be best to wait until the end of the 3DS's life cycle for that though, when there won't be any new firmware updates coming out anymore.

"There is a way to get the key that blocks emuNAND 9.6+ on N3DS (it unlocks the new layer of security added to ARM9 bootrom on the N3DS)."

Is there any particular reason I would want to update my emuNAND at this point beyond 9.5? I've yet to come across any game that isn't playable on my emuNAND thanks to cryptofixes and the like. So beyond that, are there any features that have been added to the 3DS beyond the 9.5 firmware? The one thing I've seen (That doesn't interest me) is that your badges can be applied to folders or something like that. Unless there is a more substantial new feature, I'm just not sure why I should even bother updating my emuNAND beyond 9.5

No-one would ever need to bother with workarounds such as cryptofixing and other annoying patches destined to spoof firmware for any reason. You'd just have emunand on latest firmware and everything would just work.

I'd rather ask, why would you not want your emunand to be on the latest firmware?

 

[EpicLPer]

• First of all, and most importantly: DO NOT UPDATE WHATEVER FIRMWARE YOU'RE ON. Thanks. It is recommended for you to get a way to access Homebrew Launcher as soon as possible.

But what's with eShop access? I'm on 10.1.0.27 (I think, can't check for sure now)
and due to the new security stuff Nintendo has introduced for accessing the eShop a few months ago the HANS way from @smealum is not working anymore. Anything coming up here?

 

[Mrrraou]

"There is a way to get the key that blocks emuNAND 9.6+ on N3DS (it unlocks the new layer of security added to ARM9 bootrom on the N3DS)."

Is there any particular reason I would want to update my emuNAND at this point beyond 9.5? I've yet to come across any game that isn't playable on my emuNAND thanks to cryptofixes and the like. So beyond that, are there any features that have been added to the 3DS beyond the 9.5 firmware? The one thing I've seen (That doesn't interest me) is that your badges can be applied to folders or something like that. Unless there is a more substantial new feature, I'm just not sure why I should even bother updating my emuNAND beyond 9.5

Updating your games.

 

[TuxSH]

so is there a way to install legit cias above 9.2 then

*will be.

 

[JustPingo]

But what's with eShop access? I'm on 10.1.0.27 (I think, can't check for sure now)
and due to the new security stuff Nintendo has introduced for accessing the eShop a few months ago the HANS way from @smealum is not working anymore. Anything coming up here?

Wait for emuNAND.

 

[duffmmann]

Updating your games.

Ah yes, good point, it would sure be nice to not have to download all the game updates as .cia files to install their latest updates. Would save time and work too. Still, its not something I necessarily need.

 

[EpicLPer]

Wait for emuNAND.

Oh boy you make me excited here now I can't even imagine what fun ways will come in the future from now on.

 

[Deleted User]

Good clarification thread.

I'm looking forward to all of the sudden amount of kexploits!

 

[JustPingo]

https://twitter.com/JustPingo/status/681496862428364800
Just saying.

 

[Woody8275]

these will probably be patched in the next firmware version

 

[Deleted User]

https://twitter.com/JustPingo/status/681496862428364800
Just saying.

Take your time. We don't want a massive explosion of bricks!

 

[Deleted-236924]

Ah yes, good point, it would sure be nice to not have to download all the game updates as .cia files to install their latest updates. Would save time and work too. Still, its not something I necessarily need.

Several game updates require 9.6+ to work too, or you'll be stuck on a permanent Nintendo 3DS logo when attempting to boot that game.
Can be bypassed by editing the exheader of the patch's .cia to lower the minimum firmware requirement, but then again, that's extra steps and extra work, that someone had to figure out at some point, when you could just be on 10.3 and have it work right off the bat.

Also there may be really new stuff that comes out in newer firmware updates later on too. Stuff that might be harder to bypass.
Have we ever really figured out the 6.x save crypto?

 

[Mrrraou]

these will probably be patched in the next firmware version

For sure. Everything is going to be patched in the future versions.

 

[EpicLPer]

https://twitter.com/JustPingo/status/681496862428364800
Just saying.

Gave you follow now ;D

 

[dronesplitter]

So if I'm on the latest current official firmware on an old 3DS (with IronFall exploit) I guess I'm still good, right?

 

[Mrrraou]

So if I'm on the latest current official firmware on an old 3DS (with IronFall exploit) I guess I'm still good, right?

Yes.

 

[Deleted-236924]

So if I'm on the latest current official firmware on an old 3DS (with IronFall exploit) I guess I'm still good, right?

Yes, stay there.

This is really nice because anyone can go buy any 3DS right now and be relatively safe in knowing they'll be able to hack it in the near future.

And this will finally allow actual US N3DSes to be on 9.0-9.2 instead of being stuck at minimum 9.5

 

[Deleted User]

So if I'm on the latest current official firmware on an old 3DS (with IronFall exploit) I guess I'm still good, right?

Yes, but you'll most likely need to use memchunkhax2 since SNShax is for people on 10.1 and under.

 

[Deleted-236924]

Yes, but you'll most likely need to use memchunkhax2 since SNShax is for people on 10.1 and under.

Furthermore, SNShax is only for N3DS anyway

 

[Deleted User]

Furthermore, SNShax is only for N3DS anyway

Smea said there was a workaround for O3DSs