8 Bitdo have Updated their controllers to work with the Switch

nilly · May 23, 2017

Elrinth said:
Once 8bitdo go bluetooth 5 and stuff starts supporting bluetooth 5 it'll be okay. Right now, these controllers are only good for turn based games IMO. The current transfer rate of bluetooth 2.1 as they are using aswell as distance support prepare for some delay.

Only delay i have had with my Nes30pro with my RPI3 has been from my LCD tv, once put in "Game mode" all was fine, and now testing on the switch i didnt notice any obvious lag either, not while using Nes30pro alone atleast.

Elrinth · May 23, 2017

I am using CRT (that's analogue = 0 delay) and I notice that the 8bitdo controller sometimes doesn't do what I tell it to.

But for NES, there is a radio transmitted controller coming from the guy over @ retrousb. Which has a proven length of like 20 meters on a convention or so which is pretty insane.

Jhnsn · May 23, 2017

Does the controller work on the Wii U (and Nintendont)? On the newest firmware? May consider getting one (also for Switch) - looks really nice.

Scarlet · May 23, 2017

Elrinth said:
Once 8bitdo go bluetooth 5 and stuff starts supporting bluetooth 5 it'll be okay. Right now, these controllers are only good for turn based games IMO. The current transfer rate of bluetooth 2.1 as they are using aswell as distance support prepare for some delay.

Huh, I figured they were using Bluetooth 4.0 since it said you need a 4.0 adapter in order to use Wireless XInput on PC.

TheDarkGreninja · May 23, 2017

I have an issue with these controllers, they're to me what amiibo are to some others, i just love to collect these things. also that pro controller is just so good.

BORTZ · May 23, 2017

That's pretty cool... I would like to get one of the new ones with analog support. I won the SFC style one from a contest here before I was a mod (the winning review if anyone is interested lol). I used it a lot. with my phone and my computer. Worked really well. I can't say much about the BT lag though, I mostly played emulators where there was a tad bit of lag anyway.

Hanafuda · May 23, 2017

SG854 said:
Especially gaming on a crt lag is noticeable for me on poor lag handling screens and controllers.

Although I messed up my crt a while back and I'm unsure how to fix it, I have vertical collapse. I messed it up trying to adjust the pots for screen geometry inside, and I accidentally hit the electronic gun with my screw driver, there was a flashing pop, then vertical collapse.

I have a sony pvm which are some of the the highest of high quality screens. Though these are a bit harder to track down then regular consumer crts.
I luckily got mines for free, I would like to fix it some day.

Good luck with that. I used to be on Team CRT. In fact I do still have a 27" Trinitron, a later model with component. But the picture in the upper right corner is warped. And that is increasingly what you find with the CRT's out there - they're all 15 years old or older and broken or starting to fail. I gave up. Bought an XRGB mini Framemeister and next up is a decent HDTV. But this necessarily means a small amount of lag, so if the posts above about bluetooth lag on these 8bitdo controllers is correct, then they're off my list. I'll stick with my original controllers + extension cables.

Kubas_inko · May 23, 2017

do they have some with gyroscope (accelerometer)? (just dance and other games)

SG854 · May 23, 2017

Hanafuda said:
Good luck with that. I used to be on Team CRT. In fact I do still have a 27" Trinitron, a later model with component. But the picture in the upper right corner is warped. And that is increasingly what you find with the CRT's out there - they're all 15 years old or older and broken or starting to fail. I gave up. Bought an XRGB mini Framemeister and next up is a decent HDTV. But this necessarily means a small amount of lag, so if the posts above about bluetooth lag on these 8bitdo controllers is correct, then they're off my list. I'll stick with my original controllers + extension cables.

Ya thats the problem with older anolouge displays, since you'd have to readjust the geometry picture to get it right.

Crts pvms and bvms are excellent. Wide viewing angles, low input lag, excellent color reproduction, high contrast, no motion blur, low input lag.
Not bad for the price of free for a high quality studio grade monitor. Though the hype might mostly come from America since we were mostly stuck with composite and hardly got rgb on consumer sets.

I would color calibrate my screen using a hardware colorimeter to movie industry standards, for a color accurate image, and image looked pretty good. And screen image was really sharp for being standard def. Lcds were mostly playing catch up over the years, and high end monitors have caught up pretty good recently. Oleds are definitely the future.

Sliter · May 23, 2017

Switch + 8bit =
8btch

...
Sorry :v
Well this good, but is a firmeware update? make it even more awesome XD but what about Wiiu or even wii there? :v hahaha (maybe I'm wanting too much? lol)
I loved this famicom pattern :v

Kubas_inko · May 23, 2017

Sliter said:
Switch + 8bit =
8btch

...
Sorry :v

isn't 8B*tch better?

Sliter · May 23, 2017

Kubas_inko said:
isn't 8B*tch better?

I think it looks better without the I than with a * in the place XD
I could have used an lowcase l (L) but nah :v

nilly · May 23, 2017

Ive done some more testing with my switch, and im not sure why i got input lag from all controllers before, been playing abit of minecraft three player splitscreen, with pro controller, joy-con setup and the Nes30pro, and it has been working great actually. There is some slight difference in how the analog motion translates to movement onscreen with the Nes30pro from the native switch controllers but no lag issues. So seems to work fine, think i might pick up one more Nes30pro infact. I give a thumbs up, with minor problems when i first synced that seems to have vanished.

Clydefrosch · May 23, 2017

so does that mean that there will be cheaper pro controllers in the future?

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nilly · May 23, 2017

Clydefrosch said:
so does that mean that there will be cheaper pro controllers in the future?

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This is just that

but yes ofcource more options will follow, 8bitdo should do a full controller for the switch, their stuff is "that's pretty good"

NekoMichi · May 23, 2017

Neat, just updated my NES30 (without analog sticks) and it's detected as a Pro Controller on Switch. Without analog sticks and ZL/ZR triggers, it still works perfectly with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. The D-Pad on the NES30 is mapped to the Pro Controller left analog stick.

petethepug · May 23, 2017

I'm going to take it that the + & - buttons along with the home & screenshot buttons won't be available, but reguardless I would really enjoy this as a cheap alternative to a pro controller for playing games casually

And besides, i'd rather spend my money & save it for a car rather than a $60 controller. I have bought $20 max price for a controller but $60 is pushing it tbh.
(But granite that has like 12 buttons + amiibo functionallity so I guess it's understandable.)

NekoMichi · May 23, 2017

petethepug said:
I'm going to take it that the + & - buttons along with the home & screenshot buttons won't be available, but reguardless I would really enjoy this as a cheap alternative to a pro controller for playing games casually

And besides, i'd rather spend my money & save it for a car rather than a $60 controller. I have bought $20 max price for a controller but $60 is pushing it tbh.
(But granite that has like 12 buttons + amiibo functionallity so I guess it's understandable.)

Start is mapped to +, Select is mapped to -. The Home Button can be triggered by pressing Select and Down, but the Screenshot button isn't functional on basic controller models, but works on the "Pro" models.

Actually, it looks like the NES30 Pro and FC30 Pro have every official Switch Pro controller input covered perfectly.

Jayro · May 23, 2017

Well this totally kicks ass.

Meteor7 · May 23, 2017

shaunj66 said:
Wanted to love the NES30 Pro but the bluetooth lag, as minuscule as it may be, made it impossible for me to enjoy retro gaming on it. Had to return it sadly.

I'm having trouble believing that a device which emulates retro games produced less lag than your wireless controller. Could you explain the setup you were using?

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