The MIG Switch Thread

Blythe93 · Apr 28, 2024

I have a couple of questions:

Let's say I have a base game and its matching initial data, and I have cert files from a donor game. I copy those files on the MIG Switch. Is it safe to update that game?
If the base game is game A, and the donor game is game B, how's the game recognized on your Switch when you go to check your game activity log? As A or B?
Can you reuse the same cert files from a donor game for two or more games? Or do cert files need to be unique? For example, if you have games A1, A2 and A3 sharing the same certs of the game B on the same MIG Switch card, will they work?

TheStonedModder · Apr 28, 2024

Blythe93 said:
I have a couple of questions:

Let's say I have a base game and its matching initial data, and I have cert files from a donor game. I copy those files on the MIG Switch. Is it safe to update that game?

If the base game is game A, and the donor game is game B, how's the game recognized on your Switch when you go to check your game activity log? As A or B?

Can you reuse the same cert files from a donor game for two or more games? Or do cert files need to be unique? For example, if you have games A1, A2 and A3 sharing the same certs of the game B on the same MIG Switch card, will they work?

1. No one knows for sure if it’s safe but nice been doing that so far without issue

2. The switch always recognizes as game A. This goes off the XCI and matching initial data file I believe. Either way doner game doesn’t show

3. You can use the same cert files with as many game as you want in theory there’s no risk until there’s multiple people using the same certs at the same time. Kinda like Xbox KVs if you’re familiar with those.

Still too new to know for certain if that’s safe but from my own experience at least it seems like it could be fine

zenjiki · Apr 28, 2024

You're lucky, my one of my OG release date switch is console ban, and can't update any games even legitimate carts. Good thing it doesnt need to be modded and can use custom firmware.

realtimesave · Apr 28, 2024

lol I still can't get Mario Wonder to work on it, even with fully downloaded new XCIs and certs. Nintendo would be laughing at me right now. OH GOD I DON'T KNOW HOW!!! HOOOOOL. Ok, ok, .. I'm OK now!

anon730 · Apr 28, 2024

DM9 said:
Latest drama in unlock/mig

https://wololo.net/2024/04/23/unloc...already-in-the-hands-of-some-reviewers-video/

Whoa! No kidding! This is some wild stuff going on between the mig switch & switch unlocked. I went back and checked my credit card statement in January, and realized the migswitch.store already charged my card for the mig switch. I thought they couldn't do that until they shipped out the product? I hope it wasn't a scam to steal preorder money and use smoke and mirrors to distract us from the cards not being shipped out 3 months after taking payment upfront.

TheStonedModder · Apr 28, 2024

realtimesave said:
lol I still can't get Mario Wonder to work on it, even with fully downloaded new XCIs and certs. Nintendo would be laughing at me right now. OH GOD I DON'T KNOW HOW!!! HOOOOOL. Ok, ok, .. I'm OK now!

Yo can’t use downloaded XCIs unless they have matching data..this was mentioned already that’s why it’s not working

realtimesave · Apr 28, 2024

TheStonedModder said:
Yo can’t use downloaded XCIs unless they have matching data..this was mentioned already that’s why it’s not working

I know but supposedly where I got this new data set from is matching data. Also the rom is split. I wonder if I can concatenate the rom back together and try again idk..

Gamerjin · Apr 28, 2024

realtimesave said:
I know but supposedly where I got this new data set from is matching data. Also the rom is split. I wonder if I can concatenate the rom back together and try again idk..

quoted from the site:

Mig Switch also supports split XCI format as dumped by nxdumptool when dumping to microSD. A split XCI is a .xci folder, containing sequential files 00, 01, and so on. The BIN files must not be placed next to the sequential files as they will be ignored.

Examples:

"/XXX.xci" (folder)

"/XXX.xci/00" (file)

"/XXX.xci/01" (file)

"/XXX (Certificate).bin"

Or from a subdirectory:

"/A.xci/XXX.xci" (folder)

"/A.xci/XXX.xci/00" (file)

"/A.xci/XXX.xci/01" (file)

"/A.xci/XXX" (Certificate).bin"

realtimesave · Apr 29, 2024

Gamerjin said:
quoted from the site:

O GOD it works now.

javakiko · Apr 30, 2024

bobfacemoo said:
Hi, can someone please clarify things for me. I got a MIG and need help with it.

From what I understand:
Only XCI can be played. (I can source these.)
For the game to work, 2 files are needed: InitialData and Certificate

IntialData:
This is unique to the GAME and not the CART. Does this mean any InitialData file for that game would be fine? If I have access to an atmosphere switch (not directly but I know people who have them), can this be dumped through atmosphere from an NSP?

Certificate:
This is unique to both the GAME and the CART. This can have a "donor" used - a cert that is not for that game. I am considering buying the cheapest switch cart, dumping these using an aforementioned ^ modded switch, and getting rid of the cart I used (as more than 1 person using it will likely lead to ban etc).

I currently have the setup required on the MIG SD card:
Folder.xci/
-game.xci
-game (initial data).bin
-game (certificate).bin

I get the green light on the MIG when plugging in which means ROM has been found, however it does not load and I get "Game cart cannot be read" error on the switch popup. Likely because the initialdata.bin does not match the game I am trying to load.

TL;DR:
Can InitialData.bin be dumped from an installed NSP if on an atmosphere switch and will that work with an XCI on MIG setup?

If an .xci has been trimmed it won't work, i've tried re-adding the "padding data" without success, only the initial data has to match the game, the certificate just has have the same name, I also came across .xci's that were converted from nsp's, they won't work either.

SylverReZ · May 1, 2024

Oh boy, here we go again. Mig Switch is accusing UnlockSwitch as a "preorder scam", and that they haven't done proper work.

https://wololo.net/2024/04/30/unloc...proof-of-original-work-if-mig-switch-is-game/

linuxares · May 1, 2024

SylverReZ said:
Oh boy, here we go again. Mig Switch is accusing UnlockSwitch as a "preorder scam", and that they haven't done proper work.

https://wololo.net/2024/04/30/unloc...proof-of-original-work-if-mig-switch-is-game/

More and more with this drama. I feel Mig Switch is scared they actually release those files and opensource the cartridge will make the Mig Switch dead

loser_monkey · May 1, 2024

What happens if a game with NSO tries to go online without a certificate?

DM9 · May 2, 2024

Update to lovers quarrel

https://wololo.net/2024/04/30/unloc...proof-of-original-work-if-mig-switch-is-game/

Statesman · May 2, 2024

loser_monkey said:
What happens if a game with NSO tries to go online without a certificate, and is a certificate needed for BCAT data to download?

Games won't boot without a certificate, even offline.

Reecey · May 2, 2024

Know one should be messing around with this flashcard unless you want a banned ofw Switch. I researched xci and certificates many years ago when sxos was released somewhere on here in the depths of the threads you will find the original post the end result was Nintendo changed their security on a firmware update and this was named “lotus” this changed everything and only Nintendo knew what it was and what it did. Dumping the first early certificates they were called “Card 1” then later on Nintendo updated the game card Certs to “Card 2” so goodness knows what Card number we are on now and a fully dumped Switch game will only be safe with this flashcart if it has the correct certificate information alongside it has to have everything perfect matching which I doubt the fully dumped xci will have, only Nintendo themselves will know this part. Sharing certificates won’t help with security booting up an xci they are all different and most people that have tried especially for online use expect your ban soon.. trust me its in the post

TheStonedModder · May 2, 2024

Reecey said:
Know one should be messing around with this flashcard unless you want a banned ofw Switch. I researched xci and certificates many years ago when sxos was released somewhere on here in the depths of the threads you will find the original post. Dumping the first early certificates they were called “Card 1” then later on Nintendo updated the game card Certs to “Card 2” so goodness knows what Card number we are on now and fully dumped Switch games will only work with this flashcart if it has the correct certificate number alongside. Sharing certificates won’t help or boot an xci they are all different and most people that have tried especially for online use expect your ban soon.. trust me its in the post

I havnt been banned yet from this MIG or sharing games between my SXOS devices

Just can’t be stupid about it

linuxares · May 2, 2024

Remember, we don't know what Nintendo will and will not do. Its fully possible they have information on switches using multiple shared games etc. and just await to press the "nuke" button. We just don't know, its to early.

Lumpofcoal · May 3, 2024

Yeah, ninty doesn't usually do immediate bans.They tend to do it in delayed large waves.

Either way, it would be naive to think that ninty isn't already aware of this and formulating a response. Plenty of "helpful" folks on reddit providing pics (including the mig components) and links to bundled downloads (in a misguided attempt to "help the cause") that came with their purchases from certain sellers, which could end up helping ninty build up a legal case and technical response.

Many of us were pretty sure back then that team xecuter was nigh untouchable because they had been operating for so long with seemingly no major reponse from ninty......but the whole thing practically disappeared overnight, even the FBI got ropped in. Ninty moves slowly, but when it does move, it hits like a truck.

White_Raven_X · May 3, 2024

Don't forget everyone.... MIG switch is "designed" to have all your legally owned backups in one cart.

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