The titlekey comes from the ticket (which is always included in a cia, but may be bad/fake depending on the source)
The seed is never included in the cia, that's the whole point of having this extra key -- get an updated seeddb from the titlekey site
Since the release of B9S, the bootrom [keys] were dumped, and you can also decrypt games directly on PC
Run FBI via CFW (installed then removed, or ran directly from ntrboot) or via soundhax if on supported version, install cia, profit
Sorry but didn't understand.
Can you elaborate better for me? Got me confused