Original xbox sata hdd and ssd compatibility

[DinohScene]

Winbond flash? Is that just where i solder point R7D1 and R7D10?

Yup, solder those points and load up Evox or whatever program you use for flashing the TSOP.

I had a 320GB Maxtor in my XBOX for some days it made me deaf.

I like the sounds that harddrives make when they're seeking/writing but the horrible spinner noise of those Maxtors are just unbearable, glad that company died.

 

[Deleted User]

Honestly, if u have a 1.6, ive learned the hard way, that its much easier to just chip it and use a custom bios (it won't care if the ssd/hdd is locked or not.

Chip it, burn Hexen to a disc, boot into the custom bios, boot the disc. From there just format the drive and its good to go.

No fussing with hotswapping drives (i killed my stock hdd doing that) and it failed to clone as well. Of course if you arent experienced with soldering than a chip isnt such a good idea, but thats just my 2 cents

do you have a guide to chip a v1.6 xbox?

Also, i thought the only way to even write a custom bios to the chip is by tsop?

 

[DarkGabbz]

do you have a guide to chip a v1.6 xbox?

First get a chip (Aladdin XT Plus from aliexpress)
Then do a lpc rebuild
Solder the pinheader
Cut the LFrame trace
Pull BT to GND
And you are done.

 

[DinohScene]

do you have a guide to chip a v1.6 xbox?

Also, i thought the only way to even write a custom bios to the chip is by tsop?

You'll have to get a modchip first or have one in mind.
After that, you need to look up the install schematics.
They differ for some chips but it's generally the same.

First get a chip (Aladdin XT Plus from aliexpress)
Then do a lpc rebuild
Solder the pinheader
Cut the LFrame trace
Pull BT to GND
And you are done.

Linking a picture guide might be a good idea.
Not everybody knows what they're doing.

 

[Deleted User]

First get a chip (Aladdin XT Plus from aliexpress)
Then do a lpc rebuild
Solder the pinheader
Cut the LFrame trace
Pull BT to GND
And you are done.

Even thoe I took robotics in grade 12 I killed 2 tiny boards from soldering so i wouldn't want to risk it on mine but my uncle has 2 og Xboxes already soft modded a with a broken DVD drive so I mite try and tsop that one when I see him again

 

[Stephano]

Yup, solder those points and load up Evox or whatever program you use for flashing the TSOP.

So my dad would not let me solider with his stuff for some reason (I've soldered before, it's what I do in school) and said he would do it. And from that, he tore off the R7D9 resistor and the proceeded to loose said resistor. The solder would not stick to those points. With the resistor now gone, I don't know what to do

Edit: I ended up doing the soldering myself (and it was easy ) but I'm too afraid to see if I works. It's missing that R7D9 resistor. How toast is my xbox?

 

[TeamScriptKiddies]

Even thoe I took robotics in grade 12 I killed 2 tiny boards from soldering so i wouldn't want to risk it on mine but my uncle has 2 og Xboxes already soft modded a with a broken DVD drive so I mite try and tsop that one when I see him again

Practice makes (almost) perfect lol. I mean even experienced solderers make mistakes sometimes. If you have any dead electronics lying around, practice solder to those before attempting to chip your Xbox (if you choose to do so). Just grab a dead board and some 30awg wire and practice soldering that to the dead board. When you feel confident that you've mastered that, the Xbox chip should be a cinch as it uses a pin header that literally plugs into the board and then you just need to heat each pin with a little solder to make a good connection. I believe there's a wire for Vcc and Gnd (its been a while tbh), but that's about it.

 

[DinohScene]

So my dad would not let me solider with his stuff for some reason (I've soldered before, it's what I do in school) and said he would do it. And from that, he tore off the R7D9 resistor and the proceeded to loose said resistor. The solder would not stick to those points. With the resistor now gone, I don't know what to do

Edit: I ended up doing the soldering myself (and it was easy ) but I'm too afraid to see if I works. It's missing that R7D9 resistor. How toast is my xbox?

Aside from taking a leap of faith and booting it, you could see if you got some old piece of electronics laying about and check if it's got the same SMD resistors.

Can you possibly make a pic of the trace and resistor?
Could be that you're fine.

 

[Stephano]

Aside from taking a leap of faith and booting it, you could see if you got some old piece of electronics laying about and check if it's got the same SMD resistors.

Can you possibly make a pic of the trace and resistor?
Could be that you're fine.

Sadly, we don't have any SMD resistors lying around. Even if we did, I don't know how many Ohms it is. I tried to do as much digging as possible online but I can't find a schematic of the Xbox anywhere. The only way I would know it is if someone measured the resistor with a multimeter. It's a 1.2-1.5 model and a R7D9 resistor.

If I were to boot it up, what's the worst that could happen?

 

[DarkGabbz]

Sadly, we don't have any SMD resistors lying around. Even if we did, I don't know how many Ohms it is. I tried to do as much digging as possible online but I can't find a schematic of the Xbox anywhere. The only way I would know it is if someone measured the resistor with a multimeter. It's a 1.2-1.5 model and a R7D9 resistor.

If I were to boot it up, what's the worst that could happen?

It could FRAG.

 

[Stephano]

It could FRAG.

I'm not familiar with that term unless you mean explode or short out. Lol

 

[DarkGabbz]

I'm not familiar with that term unless you mean explode or short out. Lol

FRAG = not booting and only red green blinking.

 

[Stephano]

FRAG = not booting and only red green blinking.

The I guess I could try it. I found one thing online where I guy pulled a capacitor and it would not work while another pulled a resistor and it did. So I guess it's worth a shot

 

[Stephano]

Well.... It turned on...
Huh

So then what did that resistor do?

 

[daxtsu]

I'm not familiar with that term unless you mean explode or short out. Lol

It's an acronym: "Flashing Red And Green". It happens when the Xbox panics from errors (i.e. the HDD isn't locked on a stock BIOS/kernel, the Dashboard is missing/can't be loaded, etc.).

So then what did that resistor do?

I'm not exactly an electrical engineer, but both that resistor and the other one are what protect the Winbond chip from being written to as far as I know, so I guess if both were destroyed or missing, it would allow write access anyway, similar to if the points were bridged*.

*Don't take this as a free license to try and destroy the other resistor, I'm just speculating.

 

[Stephano]

It's an acronym: "Flashing Red And Green". It happens when the Xbox panics from errors (i.e. the HDD isn't locked on a stock BIOS/kernel, the Dashboard is missing/can't be loaded, etc.).



I'm not exactly an electrical engineer, but both that resistor and the other one are what protect the Winbond chip from being written to as far as I know, so I guess if both were destroyed or missing, it would allow write access anyway, similar to if the points were bridged*.

*Don't take this as a free license to try and destroy the other resistor, I'm just speculating.

That makes sense. Although that makes me slightly worrisome. Am I not writing to the chip when i am TSOPing? Assuming that your speculation is right of course. I guess if it were to cause an issue, that would show up in on of the disks i have to make and test on the xbox. I guess i'll figure that out very soon.

 

[daxtsu]

That makes sense. Although that makes me slightly worrisome. Am I not writing to the chip when i am TSOPing? Assuming that your speculation is right of course. I guess if it were to cause an issue, that would show up in on of the disks i have to make and test on the xbox. I guess i'll figure that out very soon.

Yes, when you flash the TSOP, you're overwriting the contents of the flash chip entirely (I believe there's at least one app out there that can backup the stock BIOS if you really want it for some reason) with a custom BIOS.

If my speculation is wrong, I think the only thing the TSOP flasher program(s) would say is that the chip is still write protected, at which point you'd want to ask someone more knowledgable on how to either fix that resistor or bypass it somehow.

 

[Stephano]

Yes, when you flash the TSOP, you're overwriting the contents of the flash chip entirely (I believe there's at least one app out there that can backup the stock BIOS if you really want it for some reason) with a custom BIOS.

If my speculation is wrong, I think the only thing the TSOP flasher program(s) would say is that the chip is still write protected, at which point you'd want to ask someone more knowledgable on how to either fix that resistor or bypass it somehow.

I'll end up fixing it one way or another. But now i've run into a new problem. My xbox isn't wanting to read any discs. Neither my own or games like halo.... This thing is old. Is there anyway to get the bios checker on my harddrive without needing a disc? Or how can i get the discs working again. (NOT POT TWEAKING)

Okay, after trial and error, i got it to finally run halo. I'll try the BIOS now

 

[daxtsu]

I'll end up fixing it one way or another. But now i've run into a new problem. My xbox isn't wanting to read any discs. Neither my own or games like halo.... This thing is old. Is there anyway to get the bios checker on my harddrive without needing a disc? Or how can i get the discs working again. (NOT POT TWEAKING)

Okay, after trial and error, i got it to finally run halo. I'll try the BIOS now

If you're already softmodded, then you could just FTP it over to the hard drive in the Apps/Applications folder (whichever is applicable for your softmod). If you only have bioschecker in ISO format, you can use a program like Qwix on Windows to extract it, then FTP over the raw files.

 

[DarkGabbz]

If you're already softmodded, then you could just FTP it over to the hard drive in the Apps/Applications folder (whichever is applicable for your softmod). If you only have bioschecker in ISO format, you can use a program like Qwix on Windows to extract it, then FTP over the raw files.

Why use bioschecker i never understood why you should use it.