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[Stephano]

I agree, but there are a lot of people who, for one reason or another, are very emotionally fragile

I can understand that. This is my stance....
When i was in 5th grade, i was diagnosed with Aspergers. If you don't already know, its a form of Autism. The disorder mainly messes with one's emotions. I would sometimes get very happy for no reason or i would get very upset over the smallest things. I would take things to seriously, freak out and get upset. I sometimes still do, it's something i have been struggling with my whole life. Despite this, while i did have help to fight this, i wasn't treated any differently. Aspergers makes a person's emotions weak and sensitive. It was through harsh realities and lack of special treatment, that i was able to see things as they really are.

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

Eh... recently I've been seeing "political correctness" used as a synonym for "politeness," so I'm wary to agree there

It's more like "forced politeness," and I'm not too keen on being forced into behaving a certain way.
I wish we could all just agree to be nice, period. But no forcing, please.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I can understand that. This is my stance....
When i was in 5th grade, i was diagnosed with Aspergers. If you don't already know, its a form of Autism. The disorder mainly messes with one's emotions. I would sometimes get very happy for no reason or i would get very upset over the smallest things. I would take things to seriously, freak out and get upset. I sometimes still do, it's something i have been struggling with my whole life. Despite this, while i did have help to fight this, i wasn't treated any differently. Aspergers makes a person's emotions weak and sensitive. It was through harsh realities and lack of special treatment, that i was able to see things as they really are.

I'd argue that the most beneficial treatment anyone with emotional instability could get is the same as anyone else would get, unless otherwise specified. I'd hate feeling patronized. But again, if someone asks for a reasonable accommodation they should be given it.

It's more like "forced politeness," and I'm not too keen on being forced into behaving a certain way.
I wish we could all just agree to be nice, period. But no forcing, please.

Right, politeness that isn't genuine obviously means nothing. But I see no reason why people should criticize other people's choices to be polite

 

[HaloEliteLegend]

Right, politeness that isn't genuine obviously means nothing. But I see no reason why people should criticize other people's choices to be polite

They shouldn't, but some do for some reason, haha. I don't like political correctness because of the "forced" aspect, but being polite is always nice.

 

[the_randomizer]

Not true, you can't carry knifes with a non-folding blade over 3 inches long

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Eh... recently I've been seeing "political correctness" used as a synonym for "politeness," so I'm wary to agree there

Then again I'm not in the right frame of mind right now and shouldn't express my opinions

 

[TotalInsanity4]

being polite is always nice.

Fuck this PC bullshit

I kid I kid

 

[Stephano]

I'd argue that the most beneficial treatment anyone with emotional instability could get is the same as anyone else would get, unless otherwise specified. I'd hate feeling patronized. But again, if someone asks for a reasonable accommodation they should be given it.

Oh, i'm not saying accommodations should not be given. But when it comes to speech and talking, a person should not be sheltered from obstacles. They might need help getting though it, but they should be reminded that this is how the world is and need to be taught not how to change it, but persevere through it.

Am i off topic? I think i'm half on, half off.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Then again I'm not in the right frame of mind right now and shouldn't express my opinions

Not at all true, you are adding to the discussion after all

 

[Xiphiidae]

Ah, yes, the UK and Europe, where saying you want to kill all infidels and establish a caliphate is fine, but where criticising those beliefs is "hateful".

It's very saddening to see people here defending censorship and the erosion of the freedoms of speech and expression.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Oh, i'm not saying accommodations should not be given. But when it comes to speech and talking, a person should not be sheltered from obstacles. They might need help getting though it, but they should be reminded that this is how the world is and need to be taught not how to change it, but persevere through it.

Am i off topic? I think i'm half on, half off.

Lol I don't know if there still is a topic

No I completely agree dude, learning the cruelty of the world is an inevitable developmental step. However, as you said, there are ways to be helped through tough situations, and that's why people automatically build "safe spaces" around themselves that they can retreat to if need be

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Ah, yes, the UK and Europe, where saying you want to kill all infidels and establish a caliphate is fine, but where criticising those beliefs is "hateful".

It's very saddening to see people here defending censorship and the erosion of the freedoms of speech and expression.

Fairly certain death threats falls under the "hate speech" umbrella, and I don't think "caliphate" means what you think it means

 

[Stephano]

Lol I don't know if there still is a topic

No I completely agree dude, learning the cruelty of the world is an inevitable developmental step. However, as you said, there are ways to be helped through tough situations, and that's why people automatically build "safe spaces" around themselves that they can retreat to if need be

I KNOW RIGHT. These people need to learn that reality sucks and you just have to go through it. They are not special, they should suffer through it like the rest of us. At least we are "man" enough to go through it.

 

[grossaffe]

Glad you know nothing about our laws.

I'm speaking you personally, not your country. You expressed the desire to have people thrown in jail for saying insulting things.

 

[the_randomizer]

Not at all true, you are adding to the discussion after all

Well, it doesn't feel like it. It's been a very off day for me, like, really off. The reason I don't like PC terms is because some of them are condescending, like calling "STD", "STI" oh yeah, calling a disease
an infection is so much better, right? See what I mean? Or better example, instead of calling someone a boyfriend or girlfriend, they use the term "partner", that's just me though. Like, it's as if we can't say anything without someone getting uppity.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Well, it doesn't feel like it. It's been a very off day for me, like, really off. The reason I don't like PC terms is because some of them are condescending, like calling "STD", "STI" oh yeah, calling a disease
an infection is so much better, right? See what I mean? Or better example, instead of calling someone a boyfriend or girlfriend, they use the term "partner", that's just me though. Like, it's as if we can't say anything without someone getting uppity.

I don't see why people shouldn't just use the term they prefer. And "partner" is a relatively "safe" term to use if, for instance, you don't want to out yourself to strangers

I KNOW RIGHT. These people need to learn that reality sucks and you just have to go through it. They are not special, they should suffer through it like the rest of us. At least we are "man" enough to go through it.

Eh, everyone has hardships they need to overcome. I don't think it has to do with how "manly" someone is, they either overcome it themselves or with help. I haven't seen many examples where people have complained unreasonably about a situation they're in

 

[the_randomizer]

I don't see why people shouldn't just use the term they prefer. And "partner" is a relatively "safe" term to use if, for instance, you don't want to out yourself to strangers

Eh, everyone has hardships they need to overcome. I don't think it has to do with how "manly" someone is, they either overcome it themselves or with help. I haven't seen many examples where people have complained unreasonably about a situation they're in

I withdraw my opinion in that case. *sigh*

 

[dpad_5678]

Me personally, i wouldn't call death threats as a form of free speech because that's threatening to take someones right to life away. And one's rights to life, speech, ect. can not be used to silence another person's right to life, speech, ect.

Insults? Yes, free speech. Anyone who is offended by words needs to grow a pair.

Thank you! Your right to freedom does not allow you to make anyone else feel unsafe. Whoever thinks defacing religious properties or communities with racial or anti-<insertReligionHere> slurs is freedom of speech/expression should get themselves educated.

 

[Stephano]

I don't see why people shouldn't just use the term they prefer. And "partner" is a relatively "safe" term to use if, for instance, you don't want to out yourself to strangers

Eh, everyone has hardships they need to overcome. I don't think it has to do with how "manly" someone is, they either overcome it themselves or with help. I haven't seen many examples where people have complained unreasonably about a situation they're in

Manly as a synonym for bold, brave, courageous, ect. Thus the quotes.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Manly as a synonym for bold, brace, courageous, ect. Thus the quotes.

Sorry, while I was kind of insinuating what you thought I was, I was also trying to say everyone eventually makes that leap no matter how bold or courageous they're outwardly perceived to be

 

[Stephano]

Sorry, while I was kind of insinuating what you thought I was, I was also trying to say everyone eventually makes that leap no matter how bold or courageous they're outwardly perceived to be

Eventually ya, they do.


But, maybe not on the near future.
The more PC the world gets, the smaller steps mankind takes. Sooner or later, we will going backwards unless things change.
I hate to be a debby-downer.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Eventually ya, they do.


But, maybe not on the near future.
The more PC the world gets, the smaller steps mankind takes. Sooner or later, we will going backwards unless things change.
I hate to be a debby-downer.

Gonna have to disagree with you there, political correctness is simply a buzzword used to get one wing angry at the other, just as bigotry is. Both are obviously issues, but not nearly as much as people make it out to be, at least as far as I can tell