Gaming Nintendo likes money and the marketplace is dumb enough to give it to them

[Deleted-401606]

So you don't like other people's opinions unless he or she is agreeing with you? How is that fair? That's what this site is about now? We can only follow the opinions of others, and not for ourselves?

He isn't bashing anyone or any company without facts, he isn't bad mouthing a company just because he hates them, since he bought the game himself along with the console.

If you don't like listening to other people opinions, and get triggered by anything, then you really shouldn't be on the internet.

It was sarcasm.

 

[aofelix]

I'm not disagreeing with ur hate on ports.. however the problem is far more prevalent on the PS4 and XBOX and PC. I don't see why ur targetting Nintendo specifically.

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PS4/XBOX One (this generation)

Assassin’s Creed: The Ezio Collection
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Special Edition
Batman: Return to Arkham
Dead Rising Triple Pack
BioShock: The Collection
Resident Evil 4
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Bundle
Resident Evil 5
Dead Island Definitive Collection
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Deadlight: Director’s Cut
Ratchet & Clank
Resident Evil 6
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
Shadow Complex Remastered
Heavy Rain
Gravity Rush Remastered
Resident Evil Zero HD Remaster
Final Fantasy VII
Beyond: Two Souls
Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
Tearaway Unfolded
Dishonored: Definitive Edition
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
God of War III Remastered
Prototype Biohazard Bundle
Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition
Payday 2: Crimewave Edition
Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remas
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD
Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition
Grim Fandango Remastered
Saints Row IV: Re-Elected
Grand Theft Auto V
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
The Binding of Isaac Rebirth
Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition
Metro Redux
Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition
The Last of Us Remastered
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition
Oddworld: New N' Tasty



Nintendo have done in recent memory zelda wind waker, zelda twilight princess, mario kart, splatoon, breath of the wild

 

[Deleted User]

I'm not disagreeing with ur hate on ports.. however the problem is far more prevalent on the PS4 and XBOX and PC. I don't see why ur targetting Nintendo specifically.

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PS4/XBOX One (this generation)

Assassin’s Creed: The Ezio Collection
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Special Edition
Batman: Return to Arkham
Dead Rising Triple Pack
BioShock: The Collection
Resident Evil 4
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Bundle
Resident Evil 5
Dead Island Definitive Collection
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Deadlight: Director’s Cut
Ratchet & Clank
Resident Evil 6
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
Shadow Complex Remastered
Heavy Rain
Gravity Rush Remastered
Resident Evil Zero HD Remaster
Final Fantasy VII
Beyond: Two Souls
Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
Tearaway Unfolded
Dishonored: Definitive Edition
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
God of War III Remastered
Prototype Biohazard Bundle
Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition
Payday 2: Crimewave Edition
Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remas
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD
Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition
Grim Fandango Remastered
Saints Row IV: Re-Elected
Grand Theft Auto V
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
The Binding of Isaac Rebirth
Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition
Metro Redux
Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition
The Last of Us Remastered
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition
Oddworld: New N' Tasty



Nintendo have done in recent memory zelda wind waker, zelda twilight princess, mario kart, splatoon, breath of the wild

holy shit do you know how to format your post?

I agree with this. We aren't being fanboys, but we are using logic. Why bother targeting a company that is trying to be innovative while Microsoft and Sony are re-releasing everything but with a new title and "4K" bullshit.

 

[Spider_Man]

I'm not disagreeing with ur hate on ports.. however the problem is far more prevalent on the PS4 and XBOX and PC. I don't see why ur targetting Nintendo specifically.

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PS4/XBOX One (this generation)

Assassin’s Creed: The Ezio Collection
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Special Edition
Batman: Return to Arkham
Dead Rising Triple Pack
BioShock: The Collection
Resident Evil 4
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Bundle
Resident Evil 5
Dead Island Definitive Collection
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Deadlight: Director’s Cut
Ratchet & Clank
Resident Evil 6
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
Shadow Complex Remastered
Heavy Rain
Gravity Rush Remastered
Resident Evil Zero HD Remaster
Final Fantasy VII
Beyond: Two Souls
Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
Tearaway Unfolded
Dishonored: Definitive Edition
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
God of War III Remastered
Prototype Biohazard Bundle
Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition
Payday 2: Crimewave Edition
Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remas
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD
Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition
Grim Fandango Remastered
Saints Row IV: Re-Elected
Grand Theft Auto V
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
The Binding of Isaac Rebirth
Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition
Metro Redux
Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition
The Last of Us Remastered
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition
Oddworld: New N' Tasty



Nintendo have done in recent memory zelda wind waker, zelda twilight princess, mario kart, splatoon, breath of the wild

your list mentions games (third party) that nintendo never get, or if they do, when they release a system with the hardware to do so.

what nintendo have done since the dawn of man is..... ohh wait, they release zelda/mario/mario kart on every single system they release..... remove nintendo titles and what else is there...... not much.

DEFINATELY

when comparing to your list above, which Devil May Cry i fail to see that on the PS1/XBX, Sleeping Dogs again, Gears of War and this list goes on and on.

So what your saying is, third parties or exclusives that have a completely different story from its previous game is not allowed a "hd remaster" (which yes is a total cash cow) yet its ok that nintendo just recycle the same game/story on every single system they release.


yea that logic makes perfect sense.

you find more of the best third party games never even come to nintendo and your mainly left with nintendo titles.

i mean BoTW could be considered as a wii u port
Mario Kart DX..... wii u port
Pokken Tournament.... wii u port
I am going to guess there are going to be more

so hmmm third parties BAD for porting, yet nintendo that you all defend for its excellent first party titles cant even be arsed and are porting its wii u games over.

anyways i guess my problem of lacking games is starting to show having the switch sales drop and this old console "PS4" resumes #1 spot in console sales.

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holy shit do you know how to format your post?

I agree with this. We aren't being fanboys, but we are using logic. Why bother targeting a company that is trying to be innovative while Microsoft and Sony are re-releasing everything but with a new title and "4K" bullshit.

how exactly are they trying to be innovative?

please google the Morphus X300 and tell me how they havent simply copied off that, looking how nintendo tried to clone the tablet market with the wii u and failed (because it had no support), they see this tablet and think, yes we can spin this and our fans will think weve innovated something new.... but still lack support.

 

[Lucifer666]

I think the reason it's taken off like that is because honestly next to no one owns a goddamn Wii U.

 

[Thirty3Three]

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Edition broke the series records with it's US launch sales. The game is great, I own Mario Kart 8 and all the DLC on the Wii U. But Nintendo goes charging full price for a remake of a 3 year old game. And people buy it. Lots and lots of people are buying it.

So what exactly changed in the Deluxe Edition?

60 fps rather than 59. Most of us can't tell the difference.
No fire hopping. This should have been introduced to the Wii U version in an update.
Battle mode. This should have already been in the Wii U version.
A few new characters. A cool addition, but nothing groundbreaking.

All the DLC. This is something worth having.
1080p. Once again, something worth having and the Wii U just wasn't capable of it.

Sure, if you didn't own a Wii U then this is certainly worth the money, but compared to other remakes the game is quite unfairly priced. And the silent majority of idiots who dominate the marketplace let them get away with it.

Source:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...xe_breaks_series_records_with_us_launch_sales

Idk mate, I'm content with rebuying it for 60. I had the game on the Wii U and the dlc, too. Portability, along with the dlc, battle mode, etc., is more than enough reason to rebuy it at full price. So much complaining... don't insult others simply because you're salty.

 

[Spider_Man]

I think the reason it's taken off like that is because honestly next to no one owns a goddamn Wii U.

and why..... hardware.

old hardware, and devs focused on the Ps4/XBX1 hardware.

if the console had the support and great games then it would have sold better.

nintendo dont make consoles as they used to, they dont have the balls to release consoles that its hardware competes because it knows they dont get the support and it doesnt sell as well as the other systems, so they have to come up with BS gimmicks to make it sound better so its able to release cheap hardware.

 

[Thirty3Three]

and why..... hardware.

old hardware, and devs focused on the Ps4/XBX1 hardware.

if the console had the support and great games then it would have sold better.

nintendo dont make consoles as they used to, they dont have the balls to release consoles that its hardware competes because it knows they dont get the support and it doesnt sell as well as the other systems, so they have to come up with BS gimmicks to make it sound better so its able to release cheap hardware.

That's a huge assumption to make. It has absolutely nothing to do with "oh shit we have to add a gimmick or we are in trouble!" They just choose to. That's all. The statement "Nintendo doesn't make consoles like they used to" is a VERY flexible statement that could have MANY different meanings, but in reality, means nothing. Stop being salty.

 

[Deleted User]

your list mentions games (third party) that nintendo never get, or if they do, when they release a system with the hardware to do so.

what nintendo have done since the dawn of man is..... ohh wait, they release zelda/mario/mario kart on every single system they release..... remove nintendo titles and what else is there...... not much.

DEFINATELY

when comparing to your list above, which Devil May Cry i fail to see that on the PS1/XBX, Sleeping Dogs again, Gears of War and this list goes on and on.

So what your saying is, third parties or exclusives that have a completely different story from its previous game is not allowed a "hd remaster" (which yes is a total cash cow) yet its ok that nintendo just recycle the same game/story on every single system they release.


yea that logic makes perfect sense.

you find more of the best third party games never even come to nintendo and your mainly left with nintendo titles.

i mean BoTW could be considered as a wii u port
Mario Kart DX..... wii u port
Pokken Tournament.... wii u port
I am going to guess there are going to be more

so hmmm third parties BAD for porting, yet nintendo that you all defend for its excellent first party titles cant even be arsed and are porting its wii u games over.

anyways i guess my problem of lacking games is starting to show having the switch sales drop and this old console "PS4" resumes #1 spot in console sales.

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how exactly are they trying to be innovative?

please google the Morphus X300 and tell me how they havent simply copied off that, looking how nintendo tried to clone the tablet market with the wii u and failed (because it had no support), they see this tablet and think, yes we can spin this and our fans will think weve innovated something new.... but still lack support.

I looked it up and it does seem that way. However Nintendo pulled it off infinitely better.

Also, the reason Nintendo doesn't have a lot of 3rd party support is because almost all 3rd party goes to "more powerful" games. Most of them are shit.

Zelda, Mario Kart, and Mario all get released on every console. There is no arguing with that. But each one's gameplay is different. You couldn't accurately compare Zelda 1 to Zelda 2, or Zelda OoT to Zelda MM. Mario get's repetitive, but they seem to have left the classic 2D mario series alone since NSMBU. Also, you failed to mention Metroid Prime. Which was released on the Gamecube and the Wii. Are you saying that because you liked Metroid that it bypasses the port shaming?

Don't harass others opinions without being able to accept people harassing you.

Also find it funny that you happened to skip over the most important post in the entire thread.

Just a small reminder that you're on the side of the people who are judging other people's consuming usage right now... and talking about disregarding an opinion right after calling out people for blindly liking IP characters.

- Nintendo does make games using the same characters again and again. More often than not it is a new game though... Pretty much like CoD AW2 was a new game compared to AW, or Fifa 2017 is new compared to Fifa 2016, or Borderlands 2, Uncharted Idontknowbutgonnaguess5... They absolutely all do that because the current market is frisky. Nintendo came up with Splatoon and Arms recently, two brand new IPs that they've been pushing hard. So okay they use their IP characters (which makes the fans happy so why not), but they also try new things. Can't say the same of the competition. I haven't seen one single came from Sony E3 that looked new. Not a single one. People blindly buy Zelda games because they actually like them, just like people were used to blindly buy CoD games cause they were used to believe that it was a good IP. Nothing of what you said is specific to Nintendo, all of that can be imputed to absolutely any IP in video games, movies, books, anything.

- The hardware is not old. It's portable. You can't expect a portable tablet to match up the specs of the XXX... and to do what anyway? Nintendo games aren't ugly at all. Could they be better yes. But between a top 4k @ 60fps quality Mario Kart and a Mario Kart I can bring anywhere? I choose mobile anytime. Enough of that teraflops non sense. It's been poisoning video games for too long. Always wanting to push graphics over gameplay and fun is the very reason why games are so costly to produce today, and consequently why companies are so frisky to innovate. You want the switch to be like the two others, that's an opinion and I respect it, but I don't personally want it because I don't believe it's what makes games fun. It's not disregarding than just having different views on things. I'm way more excited by the new Mario Odysee or the new Ori than the latest Uncharted, Days Gone or similar, and these games don't require a killer hardware.

- Ports, aaah the anti-port chuchu train. Yeah what about them? I'm totally for it. All of them, on all consoles.
> It's cheap to produce and is an opportunity who people who missed games from a previous generation to enjoy them.
> It does not force you to buy them
> It does not take time away from the main dev teams
> It does not take away the game your previously bought nor the hours you spent on it.
> If people don't want it, they don't buy it. If a game is sold more than it's worth, then it won't sell and the price will drop eventually. Surely an old Zelda MM with its brand new box isn't worth $200 right? And yet it still sells at that price. Because there's a demand for it.
This is a typical example of people who are gonna pretend people don't respect their opinion while in fact, they're the one telling others what to do. If I want to support this game because I enjoy it, I'll buy it twice, three time, or more. It's my decision and my money and you should also respect that opinion.

 

[Dork]

I'm not disagreeing with ur hate on ports.. however the problem is far more prevalent on the PS4 and XBOX and PC. I don't see why ur targetting Nintendo specifically.

It is more common on PS4 and Xbox, but it's really annoying that Nintendo is starting to follow suit.

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I'll buy it twice, three time, or more. It's my decision and my money and you should also respect that opinion.

Nah I won't, fuck you. This is competition between consumers, your purchasing habits are influencing Nintendo to steer in a different direction from what I want them to do.

 

[T-hug]

WiiU is the only Ninty console I've never purchased so I'm happy for the ports.
Also Ninty's best first party games don't really drop in price at retail anyway.

(Hope they bring Bayonetta 2, I'm sure they lost money on that one!)

 

[Reecey]

I'm not disagreeing with ur hate on ports.. however the problem is far more prevalent on the PS4 and XBOX and PC. I don't see why ur targetting Nintendo specifically.

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PS4/XBOX One (this generation)

Assassin’s Creed: The Ezio Collection
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Special Edition
Batman: Return to Arkham
Dead Rising Triple Pack
BioShock: The Collection
Resident Evil 4
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Bundle
Resident Evil 5
Dead Island Definitive Collection
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Deadlight: Director’s Cut
Ratchet & Clank
Resident Evil 6
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
Shadow Complex Remastered
Heavy Rain
Gravity Rush Remastered
Resident Evil Zero HD Remaster
Final Fantasy VII

holy shit do you know how to format your post?

I agree with this. We aren't being fanboys, but we are using logic. Why bother targeting a company that is trying to be innovative while Microsoft and Sony are re-releasing everything but with a new title and "4K" bullshit.

Beyond: Two Souls
Darksiders II: Deathinitive Edition
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection
Tearaway Unfolded
Dishonored: Definitive Edition
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
God of War III Remastered
Prototype Biohazard Bundle
Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition
Payday 2: Crimewave Edition
Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remas
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition
Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD
Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition
Grim Fandango Remastered
Saints Row IV: Re-Elected
Grand Theft Auto V
Halo: The Master Chief Collection
The Binding of Isaac Rebirth
Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition
Metro Redux
Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition
The Last of Us Remastered
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition
Oddworld: New N' Tasty



Nintendo have done in recent memory zelda wind waker, zelda twilight princess, mario kart, splatoon, breath of the wild

Both of your comments are so true! I mean Playstation & Microsoft are the worse companys known for this sort of issue, re-releasing ports on a newer console probably worst than Nintendo them selves and they dont even give you nothing new with the re-pack, its either Gears of War 1 & 2 slammed together or Silent hill 2 & 3 packed together or a re-pack in 4K definition at least with Nintendo they have the bottle to do something intuitive with there new devices or re-packs on next generation handhelds/consoles, Microsoft & Sony stick with the same format console, a brick with controllers, same games (ports) and people still buy them. That was the reason why I stopped buying Playstation & Xbox consoles they were just plain sit down in front of your tv screen, "wanking" boring, the games were ports from for example 1 to 2, 3 to 4 and so on I know Nintendo do it with Mario Kart but there next titles are exciting MS & PS next Gears of War or Killzone do are plain old crap and depressing. Tbh I think Nintendo has guts, faith and plenty of love into trying something new and you cannot knock them for that! This thread needs shutting its just getting out of hand again with rivalry.

 

[flame1234]

A lot of people have said this before you, op.

They should put out a slimmer "mobile" package without the dock and controller grip. Problem is, those things barely contribute to BOM, so Nintendo can't remove them, sell you a cheaper package, and maintain margin. The pro controller is ridiculous. The extra dock is ridiculous but not many people actually need it. Extra controllers and the charging grip are merely overpriced.

Anyway, yeah, their margins on Switch are pretty gross. I actually don't mind paying $60 for games, but the hardware is overpriced.
Wii U never dropped in price, and I never bought it.

 

[vinstage]

In my personal opinion, they re released because the Switch may gain more multiplayer functionality and activity than the wiiU, and I personally enjoy playing Mario Kart in a multiplayer mode.
Plus the Switch did sort of kill the wiiU in senses. They're probably also trying to give the Switch as many games as they can right now until the promised games are released.

 

[Bladexdsl]

nintendo likes money...yeah so do i big woop wanna fight about it?

 

[Thirty3Three]

nintendo likes money...yeah so do i big woop wanna fight about it?

I like money too. I want moniez.

 

[vinstage]

I like money too. I want moniez.

nintendo likes money...yeah so do i big woop wanna fight about it?

Who doesn't like money? It's basically the economies fuel.

 

[CMDreamer]

I think this all reduces to the very same "power battles" on the consoles from each manufacturer. People keep believing that more power means better games, and they keep getting the same games just "remastered"... If they are happy with that I don't care, but I like games out of common and sadly none of the developers are providing that on any console platform.

Gaming industry is getting lame... just like movies nowadays...

 

[deinonychus71]

I think this all reduces to the very same "power battles" on the consoles from each manufacturer. People keep believing that more power means better games, and they keep getting the same games just "remastered"... If they are happy with that I don't care, but I like games out of common and sadly none of the developers are providing that on any console platform.

Gaming industry is getting lame... just like movies nowadays...

Movies are getting lame... but we have very good TV Shows now
Triple A games are getting lame... but we're getting very good indie games

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

Don't worry OP, I don't have the wii u version and I won't buy the switch game until a price drop of at least $40 or less is made. I also didn't buy Ultra street fighter 2, and won't buy until a price drop of $20 or less is made. Puyo Puyo Tetris? $40 retail, $30 digital? $20 for me, Super bomberman R?.... well i thought the internet started hating knoami. Still that game hasn't been in production for least 7 years, should be D-listed to indie game status and no more than $20. Let's fight the marketplace together! YOU AND ME.