[POLL] U.S. Presidential Election 2016

[Engert]

basically trump is beating obama at his own game but in a way which obama totally despises.

by the way here's what Cornel West a princeton professor has to say about obama http://www.salon.com/2014/08/24/cor..._a_wall_street_presidency_a_drone_presidency/

 

[Lacius]

basically trump is beating obama at his own game but in a way which obama totally despises.

How is Donald Trump "beating Obama at his own game"? Last time I checked, President Obama's aggregate net favorable rating was +6, and Donald Trump's aggregate net favorable rating was -27.

 

[Engert]

How is Donald Trump "beating Obama at his own game"? Last time I checked, President Obama's aggregate net favorable rating was +6, and Donald Trump's aggregate net favorable rating was -27.

obama got elected by being a smooth talker and trump might get elected by being a harsh talker. This infuriates obama and also keep in mind that everyone has dismissed trump since he announced his candidacy ... but look at him now.

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if trump wins i cant wait for him to make fun of obama in the correspondents dinner.

 

[Lacius]

obama got elected by being a smooth talker and trump might get elected by being a harsh talker. This infuriates obama

When has President Obama been in any way infuriated by Donald Trump?

and also keep in mind that everyone has dismissed trump since he announced his candidacy ... but look at him now.

Consistently behind by about 3 points in the polls? Donald Trump could definitely win, but it doesn't appear likely. He's currently the weaker candidate.

 

[Engert]

Obama's "jokes" about trump by the way are his way of expressing himself in a positive way (meaning trump doesn't bother me) since he cannot cry but if you look at the Obama's statements in news channels not talk shows you see that he's seriously troubled by trump and trump has gotten under his skin.

Also note that elections in USA are not about logic or common sense but pure raw feelings which makes it for a good show.
One time the American people vote for Obama who's nothing but a smooth talker piece of shit and the other time they might vote for trump who's a hardline retarded moron.

These are the choices we always have But, people always defend their gun rights because one day they might need them to "rebel" against a tyrannical government. Don't make me laugh! That's a bullshit line. People don't want to change anything because this country is not about what's right or about common sense but it's one giant business transaction from east coast to west coast.

 

[Deleted User]

dude Hillary may be a criminal but at least shes not Trump!!! lol dude so what about benghazi attack bro trumps a racist my high school teacher told me so

tl;dr Hillary voters

 

[cracker]

I don't get the huge "scandal" with Benghazi. From what has been said the supposed Intel to act on was hours old and resulted in 4 dead and 11 injured. There was much less political demonizing over 9/11 where (at best) months-old credible briefings were ignored and nearly 3000 died and 6000+ were injured. Are, we, Americans this bad at math?

Also, I have to add, many officials from foreign relations to financial overseers have painted a very bleak future for an America (and even world) if there is a Trump presidency. The guy makes his money off the backs of others and tax payers have to bail him out — so far six times. He is a very irresponsible person with the money of others and his speech.

 

[RevPokemon]

I am what you would call a Libertarian (partyist yet largely sympathetic to agorist ideology) and huge Mises and Rothbard fan so obviously I am voting Johnson because I want my vote to go for a person who ideological is what I feel is ideal for my country (although I will add I really do like Stein). Likewise my state is solid red to the point where Clinton has no shot and I want Johnson to get the 15 % which would really help the party next election cycle. Will he win? Realistically no but he might surprise a few if he does good in the debates.

As for trump he is an idiot and a true disgrace. As Berry Goldwater said "Do not associate my name with anything you do. You are extremists, and you've hurt the Republican party much more than the Democrats have." Which I feel is the modern GOP.

 

[Iamapirate]

I don't live in the country, and so I cannot vote, but if I could I'd probably vote for Johnson. Clinton will be more of the same, just more corrupt, and Trump is a clown with no real substance.

Out of Trump or Hillary, I'd definitely prefer Trump. He at least seems to care about America, whereas Clinton seems to be just another cold, money-hungry, power-hungry politician.

 

[Abcdfv]

Why donald Trump hate me and the others mexicans :´)?
By the way... im not american, so, i cant vote...

Haven't you heard? Mexicans are all thieves rapists and murderers. And some I assume are good people.


It's just standard racism appealing to people who won't look for a job, and then blame illegal immigrants for not having one.

 

[RevPokemon]

Haven't you heard? Mexicans are all thieves rapists and murderers. And some I assume are good people.


It's just standard racism appealing to people who won't look for a job, and then blame illegal immigrants for not having one.

This 100%.

Although this appeal has-been done several times before Trump started using it.

 

[Glyptofane]

Opposing infinity illegal immigrants in any way is pure racism.

Going to immediate war with Russia for the sake of international banking is also a very important trait in any electable candidate. Supporting the establishment is the hip, happening thing to do these days. Well worth rioting over, in fact!

 

[Lacius]

dude Hillary may be a criminal but at least shes not Trump!!! lol dude so what about benghazi attack bro trumps a racist my high school teacher told me so

tl;dr Hillary voters

Secretary Clinton is not by any definition a criminal.

I don't get the huge "scandal" with Benghazi. From what has been said the supposed Intel to act on was hours old and resulted in 4 dead and 11 injured. There was much less political demonizing over 9/11 where (at best) months-old credible briefings were ignored and nearly 3000 died and 6000+ were injured. Are, we, Americans this bad at math?

Also, I have to add, many officials from foreign relations to financial overseers have painted a very bleak future for an America (and even world) if there is a Trump presidency. The guy makes his money off the backs of others and tax payers have to bail him out — so far six times. He is a very irresponsible person with the money of others and his speech.

There have been eight Republican investigations on the topic of Benghazi, and each one has shown that there is no scandal. Some Republicans have even admitted publicly that the purpose of the investigation is to specifically hurt Secretary Clinton politically.

 

[RevPokemon]

Secretary Clinton is not by any definition a criminal.


There have been eight Republican investigations on the topic of Benghazi, and each one has shown that there is no scandal. Some Republicans have even admitted publicly that the purpose of the investigation is to specifically hurt Secretary Clinton politically.

If Hillary is a criminal then so are McCain, Rice, Bush,Obama,Bernake, Greenspan, Cheney and many more

 

[KingpinSlim]

I am german, so i personally believe that the goverment should exist for the benefit of the people they serve.
This means that everything important to the development of the people should be absolutely free.
This means education, medical treatment and yes... even supporting people financially who can not support themselves.
In germany that has been the case for ages and it saddens me that this shouldn't be the standard in any western nation.
This is nothing new, nothing revolutionary. This should be the absolute bare-minimum.
If someone needs help, you help them.
If someone wants to learn, you teach them.
If someone has nothing to eat, you feed them,
and if someone doesn't have a home, then you give him one.

 

[grossaffe]

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

 

[Meteor7]

I am german, so i personally believe that the goverment should exist for the benefit of the people they serve.
This means that everything important to the development of the people should be absolutely free.
This means education, medical treatment and yes... even supporting people financially who can not support themselves.
In germany that has been the case for ages and it saddens me that this shouldn't be the standard in any western nation.
This is nothing new, nothing revolutionary. This should be the absolute bare-minimum.
If someone needs help, you help them.
If someone wants to learn, you teach them.
If someone has nothing to eat, you feed them,
and if someone doesn't have a home, then you give him one.

Our government knows the "right" things to do, but they find manipulating and exploiting us much more fun (Profitable).

 

[KingpinSlim]

Our government knows the "right" things to do, but they find manipulating and exploiting us much more fun (Profitable).

Yeah, i know.
Politicians say that such social reforms would hurt the economy, but that is most certainly a lie.
Germany is doing great and our economy is rock-solid and only the nordic nations are more social than we are.
If you invest in the well-being of a society, the stronger your nation gets as a whole, but that's not what a lot of the politicians in America are interested in.
They don't want the wealth to be shared.
Trump is not like them, however. He is not lying. He actually believes in what he says.
Which makes sense, considering that he is a textbook narcissistic sociopath.

We had a ruler once that was like that. We Germans know exactly what kind of a creature trump is.

 

[RevPokemon]

Yeah, i know.
Politicians say that such social reforms would hurt the economy, but that is most certainly a lie.
Germany is doing great and our economy is rock-solid and only the nordic nations are more social than we are.
If you invest in the well-being of a society, the stronger your nation gets as a whole, but that's not what a lot of the politicians in America are interested in.
They don't want the wealth to be shared.
Trump is not like them, however. He is not lying. He actually believes in what he says.
Which makes sense, considering that he is a textbook narcissistic sociopath.

We had a ruler once that was like that. We Germans know exactly what kind of a creature trump is.

although I think the issue is also the question of how should such models be adopted here in America so that the transition is smooth?
Granted with the Democratic and Republican parties I doubt such change will happen (atleast under the current type of leadership).

 

[KingpinSlim]

although I think the issue is also the question of how should such models be adopted here in America so that the transition is smooth?
Granted with the Democratic and Republican parties I doubt such change will happen (atleast under the current type of leadership).

Of course that wouldn't be possible right now.
For something like that you would need a democracy.
America doesn't have a proper democracy.
In a democracy you would have two things: A) The ability to directly vote for any candidate of your choice and B) Enough legitimate choices.

If you have the choice between a Maniacal Sociopath and Hillary Clinton, of course your only sensible choice is Hillary Clinton. That does not however mean that you had a legitimate choice in the first place.
Choosing between death and torture might be a choice, but not one that actually reflects your wishes.