Neimod has full kernel control from an unmodified 3DS

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After the release of Pokemon X and Y I really hope there will be no 3ds hacks this year.
Just think of all the rom begging...
i think it has become a tradition, there will still be threads like that around and there will be mods who close all those threads down.
 

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I do not care about roms but I want to play some games that are probably not coming to Europe and importing is not an option as long as region lock is still working. I will not buy a second system just because Nintendo decided to patronize customers.

And I certainly would not want to wait another year for a solution just because there are people out there begging for roms. They will always be there. How would postponing a release change that fact?
 
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And I certainly would not want to wait another year for a solution just because there are people out there begging for roms. They will always be there. How would postponing a release change that fact?
No one even suggested a possibility of the release of the exploit being postponed even a minute due to the entitled pirates wanting warez. It seems rather random for you to voice your opposition to such an idea when it was not suggested in the first place.
 

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Even nintendo would struggle to fix something before anyone releases a hack, as they don't know what the hack is.

Ignoring the tradition of hackers sometimes having a quiet word beforehand I would not be so sure of a fix "only after the public release" and there are still things Nintendo could do; though presumably not much is known they could see some people look through the code, they could add a bunch of integrity checks to obvious hacking points, they could try for a multiregion/multifirmware approach, they could do some obfuscation (granted the previous example is possibly an applied version of that) and the list goes on for some time. Granted some of that is a delaying tactic or frustration tactic rather than a "true" protection but I would not discourage Nintendo from doing it should I be wearing my "security advisor" hat.
 
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I do not care about roms but I want to play some games that are probably not coming to Europe and importing is not an option as long as region lock is still working. I will not buy a second system just because Nintendo decided to patronize customers.

And I certainly would not want to wait another year for a solution just because there are people out there begging for roms. They will always be there. How would postponing a release change that fact?

I agree with this post 100%
 

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Bollocks to all the moralistic bullhickey - Give me a hack and flashcard and Nintendo gains another 3DS sale :yaynds: - No ROMs, no 3DS sale.
It's better than nothing Nintendo, take it or leave it.
 
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Homebrew emulators etc. b****es !

Dragonminded should recreate a 3DSOrganize (however I doubt he will ever return *sob*)

He sure was awesome.
 

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I do not care about roms but I want to play some games that are probably not coming to Europe and importing is not an option as long as region lock is still working. I will not buy a second system just because Nintendo decided to patronize customers.

And I certainly would not want to wait another year for a solution just because there are people out there begging for roms. They will always be there. How would postponing a release change that fact?
I'm fine without a ROM loader, but it would be nice to be able to store all my games on the SD card so I wouldn't have to carry them around.
 

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Congrats, you are what's wrong with gbatemp.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Do you get dizzy up there on the moral high ground ?

I'm fine without a ROM loader, but it would be nice to be able to store all my games on the SD card so I wouldn't have to carry them around.
Oh yes, that old chestnut. That's what I meant to say. That would be acceptable, of course, without question........
 

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Bollocks to all the moralistic bullhickey - Give me a hack and flashcard and Nintendo gains another 3DS sale :yaynds: - No ROMs, no 3DS sale.
It's better than nothing Nintendo, take it or leave it.

Congrats, you are what's wrong with gbatemp.

I must say.....in all honesty.....if DS flashcarts weren't available at the time, I wouldn't have bought 1 DS phat, 2 DS lite and 1 DSiXL over the years....
Nintendo surely made a penny or two off me.......
Software sales......that's another matter.
But within the systems, cases, chargers, cables, SD cards, adapters and so on, I feel they made enough money off me.....
Just sayin'...
 
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[07:57:34] <@neimod> unfortunately, we are elitist bastards who never share anything, so kiss that warez loader goodbye

No wonder the decapping fundraiser is frozen at $1059.05... as long as they keep to themselves (by apparently monopolizing their finds) there will be no worthwhile brew or anything of the kind...

Also, on the topic of piracy damaging the 3ds or taking away game dev incentive or w/e: Pokemon B2/W2 released on DS in 2012. One of Nintendo's biggest franchises. I'll leave it at that.
 

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[07:57:34] <@neimod> unfortunately, we are elitist bastards who never share anything, so kiss that warez loader goodbye

No wonder the decapping fundraiser is frozen at $1059.05... as long as they keep to themselves (by apparently monopolizing their finds) there will be no worthwhile brew or anything of the kind...
Except that fact that they said so right at the beginning. Not like they were trying to scam anyone of their money. And those who donated will get the pictures from the decapping. What people are going to do with the pictures is entirely up to them. Develop a way to run homebrew? Go ahead. Find a way to pirate 3DS games? Knock yourself out. Put it in your cat's litter box? I won't judge you.

Think of it this way. You and a couple of friends pool some money to get some milk. You get your share. Your friends get theirs. All is good. But if one of your friends decides to convert his milk into say, cheese, he is not obligated in any way to share the recipe/method for making cheese. If you want cheese, you have to figure out how to do it yourself or get someone who does to do it for you, though that is a separate transaction altogether as cheese-making was never part of the original deal.
 

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Except that fact that they said so right at the beginning. Not like they were trying to scam anyone of their money. And those who donated will get the pictures from the decapping. What people are going to do with the pictures is entirely up to them. Develop a way to run homebrew? Go ahead. Find a way to pirate 3DS games? Knock yourself out. Put it in your cat's litter box? I won't judge you.

Think of it this way. You and a couple of friends pool some money to get some milk. You get your share. Your friends get theirs. All is good. But if one of your friends decides to convert his milk into say, cheese, he is not obligated in any way to share the recipe/method for making cheese. If you want cheese, you have to figure out how to do it yourself or get someone who does to do it for you, though that is a separate transaction altogether as cheese-making was never part of the original deal.

They already know that most people won't know what they're doing with those images to begin with, anyway my points still stand.
 
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They already know that most people won't know what they're doing with those images to begin with, anyway my points still stand.
Irrelevant. If anything, I'd rather have them claim to be "elitist bastards who never share anything" than to make empty promises.
 

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[07:57:34] <@neimod> unfortunately, we are elitist bastards who never share anything, so kiss that warez loader goodbye

No wonder the decapping fundraiser is frozen at $1059.05... as long as they keep to themselves (by apparently monopolizing their finds) there will be no worthwhile brew or anything of the kind...

Yep and that's the reason I'm not going to donate, if he was willing to share the information, I bet the fundraiser would of been complete day one. I look at the decapping as a kickstarter, he asking for money so that it can be decaped and by not shareing the information from the decapping it is just wrong & insulting, specially as he's asking the public for money to fund the decapping, it's one thing to fund the decapping yourself and be an "elitist bastards who never share anything" but it takes a total ass hole to ask people for money and not share a single thing. At the very least he should give the information of the decaping to the people who donanted.
 
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Yep and that's the reason I'm not going to donate, if he was willing to share the information, I bet the fundraiser would of been complete day one. I look at the decapping as a kickstarter, he asking for money so that it can be decaped and by not shareing the information from the decapping it is just wrong & insulting, specially as he's asking the public for money to fund the decapping, it's one thing to fund the decapping yourself and be an "elitist bastards who never share anything" but it takes a total ass hole to ask people for money and not share a single thing. At the very least he should give the information of the decaping to the people who donanted.
hmm they promised to send you the decapping information when you donate money. Also if they find anything usefull for the normal users they will sharing it, what else is the point of doing all this. But for know they just want to be sure nothing is gonna patched and be on the safe side.

the reason why i am not donating is that 1 I simply can't duo the payment methods 2: they always spitting fire on gbatemp and other (and it actually funny ) but when they need money they are gonna beg here
 

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Yep and that's the reason I'm not going to donate, if he was willing to share the information, I bet the fundraiser would of been complete day one. I look at the decapping as a kickstarter, he asking for money so that it can be decaped and by not shareing the information from the decapping it is just wrong & insulting, specially as he's asking the public for money to fund the decapping, it's one thing to fund the decapping yourself and be an "elitist bastards who never share anything" but it takes a total ass hole to ask people for money and not share a single thing. At the very least he should give the information of the decaping to the people who donanted.
He was probably being sarcastic...and besides that, have you ever contributed anything to the community and/or dabbled a little bit in homebrew and coding??? Probably not, so stfu. Even if you were given the decapping photos, what could you possibly do with them???
 
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