Hardware Should I just get a new laptop?

[the_randomizer]

My personal opinion? You've invested in a solid piece, don't worry too much about it. 80 degrees is not bad at all. If the thing starts to shut itself down, THEN you have a problem. Computers are designed to shut down to prevent overheating. I can melt crayons on my exhaust, and it's not shutting down, so not a problem. Don't give up on it, be fortunate your machines actually good. I'd take it if you don't have a use for it. It beats mine a hundred ways.

Alright, I'll move and stop worrying. I freaked out, like real bad yesterday, but I'll keep an eye out on the temps. I just need to form a habit where I'm not having to look every five minutes.

 

[Unagi]

It's natural. If you're running things, it starts to get hotter.

 

[the_randomizer]

It's natural. If you're running things, it starts to get hotter.

So just let it run its course then and not freak out?


Edit: What the hell!!?

Why the f**k does it reach 80 Celsius when I close a program and leave for ten minutes? No bueno.

 

[Rydian]

My GPU will hit 80C when I'm gaming a recent game... but it tends to idle at about 45-48C, with my CPU about that temperature too , motherboard reporting 33C.

And my previous GPU hit 100C, started failing, and I needed to RMA it...

EDIT: Also the task manager's processes list will let you see what is using up how much CPU (it's of total, so 25% means one full core of a 4-core CPU), and this will let you see GPU usage stats.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

 

[Celice]

On that note: is your GPU handling the YouTube/video stuff? I've heard of some people, laptops with nVidia cards especially, having the problem that the CPU would often override the GPU in cases like YouTube and handle rendering as if you were only using the onboard video stuff. Perhaps that's worth looking into, but, again, these are normal temps, and you can only make it so much cooler before it becomes impossible, without directly modifying the system hardware.

When it gets hot, how is the laptop situated, by the way? You can do a control test by using it normally and seeing your temps, then try something simple like this alongside a no-battery/only charger or a no-charger/only battery run whilst doing "normal" things. Try not to compare whilst gaming or other system-intensive stuff as that's going to push your system, and the results are going to be high no matter what you do.

 

[the_randomizer]

My GPU will hit 80C when I'm gaming a recent game... but it tends to idle at about 45-48C, with my CPU about that temperature too , motherboard reporting 33C.

And my previous GPU hit 100C, started failing, and I needed to RMA it...

EDIT: Also the task manager's processes list will let you see what is using up how much CPU (it's of total, so 25% means one full core of a 4-core CPU), and this will let you see GPU usage stats.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

Funny thing is, it can be 5% and still get hot as hell. I heard disabling hyperthreading reduces the temperatures, and I see no harm since I don't use programs that use HT at all, so why not. Unfortunately, most Lenovo laptops don't have it changeable in the BIOS, so the only method to turn it off is this
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPa...u-disable-Hyperthreading-on-Y550P/ta-p/265848

It will reduce heat, but others have said to disable Turbo Boost, which cannot be done in the BIOS at all, and would make the performance go to hell.

On that note: is your GPU handling the YouTube/video stuff? I've heard of some people, laptops with nVidia cards especially, having the problem that the CPU would often override the GPU in cases like YouTube and handle rendering as if you were only using the onboard video stuff. Perhaps that's worth looking into, but, again, these are normal temps, and you can only make it so much cooler before it becomes impossible, without directly modifying the system hardware.

When it gets hot, how is the laptop situated, by the way? You can do a control test by using it normally and seeing your temps, then try something simple like this alongside a no-battery/only charger or a no-charger/only battery run whilst doing "normal" things. Try not to compare whilst gaming or other system-intensive stuff as that's going to push your system, and the results are going to be high no matter what you do.

Dedicated GPU is on all the time, so the Intel HD 3000 isn't used at all; everything is handled via GPU for YouTube, etc.

 

[Rydian]

What are you checking the temps with? If the dedicated GPU is on all the time, that'd do it. They get hotter than your average CPU quicker.

 

[Deleted User]

My GPU will hit 80C when I'm gaming a recent game... but it tends to idle at about 45-48C, with my CPU about that temperature too , motherboard reporting 33C.

And my previous GPU hit 100C, started failing, and I needed to RMA it...

EDIT: Also the task manager's processes list will let you see what is using up how much CPU (it's of total, so 25% means one full core of a 4-core CPU), and this will let you see GPU usage stats.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

and what temp will it hit if you watch a video? mine is max 53.. but im atm unable to test it with a game

 

[Rydian]

Got Borderlands 2 running, CPU is 60C, Motherboard is 48C, GPU is 79C.

When watching videos my card doesn't heat or spin up the fans since it's such a low-end task, so my temps are more like idle.

 

[the_randomizer]

What are you checking the temps with? If the dedicated GPU is on all the time, that'd do it. They get hotter than your average CPU quicker.

Well, it's a lose-lose situation. If I have the universal GPU set to the Intel IGP, there are some programs that can't force-enable the NVidia GPU, notably Dolphin, PCSX2 or other graphic-intensive programs. It will force the Intel GPU when it's NOT needed, screwing the up to no end. Summary, switching to the Intel GPU will cause programs that should use the NVidia GPU, not to use it. In other words, some programs won't use the dedicated GPU even if you tell it to. That's why the nVidia GPU is on all the time, because Optimus sucks donkey balls and will never use the NVidia chip when I tell it to. The GPU never gets that hot though, the highest I've seen was 55 maybe 60 tops, that's it.

Optimus doesn't know how to use the proper GPU even when the profile tells it too. To make matter worse, emulators and Steam have the dedicated GPU grayed out, leaving no choice but to use the s****y IGP. I tried using the IGP as the universal GPU once, but the CPU temps were not much lower than they are now.

GPU temps aren't a concern for me at all, CPU temps, however, are my greatest source of stress. I'm going to disable HT no matter what, I don't use it, I don't need it, and even Dolphin uses two, three cores max, not eight threads.

 

[sliver123]

I have 3 desktops and 2 laptops one with gxforce GT 630M intel core i7 up to 3.1ghz 8gb memory 500 gb hdd and are working great speed with pcsx2 games emulators etc

 

[the_randomizer]

I have 3 desktops and 2 laptops one with gxforce GT 630M intel core i7 up to 3.1ghz 8gb memory 500 gb hdd and are working great speed with pcsx2 games emulators etc

What does that have to do with what I said? I'm having issues with abnormal temperatures.

 

[sliver123]

What does that have to do with what I said? I'm having issues with abnormal temperatures.

a sorry,does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/14997/abnormal-increase-in-laptop-temperature ?

 

[the_randomizer]

a sorry,does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/14997/abnormal-increase-in-laptop-temperature ?

Don't worry about it Based off of that read, it could be due to hidden processes, or hyperthreading causing an issue; suffice to say, it's frustrating and perplexing. This is why I contemplated getting a desktop with my tax refund. *sigh*.

 

[Rydian]

Process Explorer?

 

[the_randomizer]

Process Explorer?

Yep, at a loss here. I might as well give up.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

A lot of laptops have this problem. As long as it isn't overheating and crashing/shutting down, you have nothing to worry about, temps like that are normal on laptops.
You have to pick your laptop carefully to avoid temperatures like that, as the air flow in different models and brands can vary widely. The newer Intel CPUs (especially i7) also produce a lot of heat.

 

[the_randomizer]

A lot of laptops have this problem. As long as it isn't overheating and crashing/shutting down, you have nothing to worry about, temps like that are normal on laptops.
You have to pick your laptop carefully to avoid temperatures like that, as the air flow in different models and brands can vary widely. The newer Intel CPUs (especially i7) also produce a lot of heat.

Althought it is somewhat disconcerting, I'll live with it for now until I can get a desktop

 

[KingBlank]

Do a nice wee cleanup with the tools in Glary utilitys (Fantastic program toolkit)
http://www.glarysoft.com/ (lets you clean up those random background processes too!)
And stop worrying, as long as its not decreasing your preformance and the temp is below 100, its fine.
My old alienware M15X used to get cpu temps up to 110 (before it shut down automaticly) and it suffered no permanent damage.
Maybe try using http://www.hwinfo.com/ (HWINFO), it let me change my internal fan speed on my laptop and set new rpm/temp trends.
(go into sensors then look down the bottom, if there is a tiny red fan button then you can change fan speeds, if there is not, then u cant)

 

[the_randomizer]

Do a nice wee cleanup with the tools in Glary utilitys (Fantastic program toolkit)
http://www.glarysoft.com/ (lets you clean up those random background processes too!)
And stop worrying, as long as its not decreasing your preformance and the temp is below 100, its fine.
My old alienware M15X used to get cpu temps up to 110 (before it shut down automaticly) and it suffered no permanent damage.
Maybe try using http://www.hwinfo.com/ (HWINFO), it let me change my internal fan speed on my laptop and set new rpm/temp trends.
(go into sensors then look down the bottom, if there is a tiny red fan button then you can change fan speeds, if there is not, then u cant)

You're right, I have been way too focused on the negative when there was nothing to really worry about in the first place. Granted, I still will do a comparing and price matching for a desktop in the near future, but I will no longer get so uppity about the laptop getting hot. It hasn't shut down in the year or so I've had it, and as long as I keep the dust levels under wraps, I doubt I'll ever have that issue