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I would look for a build like this :-

Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H for the Motherboard,
Intel I5 2500k for the CPU (boring I know, but still the best for the money),
An NVIDIA GTX 670 (2GB) rather than the pricey but not much better performing NVIDIA GTX 680,
(Or a GTX 570 if you can't afford the GTX 670 as you get about a third less performance (FPS wise) and it costs about a third less).

Bear in mind that you are stuck with 1600 MHZ ram for that Motherboard and it only supports Crossfire for dual GPU use (the second PCI slot is restricted to 4x).

This build is aimed at a Bang4Buck purchase. You may want to spend a bit more.
Haha, jinx my friend sent me that...

And he's not wrong by the sound of it. Add some Corsair Vengence Arctic White ram as you can find it cheap in a lot of places (because it's white it's not a popular choice despite being good ram). For the GFX, the EVGA 570 HD Superclocked seems good for the money too. For a PSU, I have a 600w Corsair Builder series CX V2 and have been more than happy with it's stability and quality despite being a budget PSU. I paid about £48 pounds for it (probably about $70-$75) and it has been a good buy for me and my GTX 560 ti and should be enough for a single GTX 570.
 

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I would look for a build like this :-

Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H for the Motherboard,
Intel I5 2500k for the CPU (boring I know, but still the best for the money),
An NVIDIA GTX 670 (2GB) rather than the pricey but not much better performing NVIDIA GTX 680,
(Or a GTX 570 if you can't afford the GTX 670 as you get about a third less performance (FPS wise) and it costs about a third less).

Bear in mind that you are stuck with 1600 MHZ ram for that Motherboard and it only supports Crossfire for dual GPU use (the second PCI slot is restricted to 4x).

This build is aimed at a Bang4Buck purchase. You may want to spend a bit more.
Haha, jinx my friend sent me that...

And he's not wrong by the sound of it. Add some Corsair Vengence Arctic White ram as you can find it cheap in a lot of places (because it's white it's not a popular choice despite being good ram). For the GFX, the EVGA 570 HD Superclocked seems good for the money too. For a PSU, I have a 600w Corsair Builder series CX V2 and have been more than happy with it's stability and quality despite being a budget PSU. I paid about £48 pounds for it (probably about $70-$75) and it has been a good buy for me and my GTX 560 ti and should be enough for a single GTX 570.
Can you post the corrected build since there was a mistake? Thanks.
 

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Not sure about a mistake, but here is my suggestion in it's entirety.

Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H for the Motherboard,
Intel I5 2500k for the CPU (boring I know, but still the best for the money),
An NVIDIA GTX 670 (2GB) rather than the pricey but not much better performing NVIDIA GTX 680,
(Or a GTX 570 if you can't afford the GTX 670 as you get about a third less performance (FPS wise) and it costs about a third less). The EVGA 570 HD Superclocked looks good for the money.
600w Corsair Builder Series CX V2 for the PSU if you choose a single GTX 570. I doubt it would be powerful enough for any of the gaming 600 series GTX's.
8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengence Arctic White as you can probably find it cheap in a lot of places (because it's white it's not a popular choice despite being good ram).

Seratonin. I made a mistake as the ram on Amazon was laptop ram. Please don't buy it. I have deleted that part from this post incase you didn't see it.
 

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Not sure about a mistake, but here is my suggestion in it's entirety.

Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H for the Motherboard,
Intel I5 2500k for the CPU (boring I know, but still the best for the money),
An NVIDIA GTX 670 (2GB) rather than the pricey but not much better performing NVIDIA GTX 680,
(Or a GTX 570 if you can't afford the GTX 670 as you get about a third less performance (FPS wise) and it costs about a third less). The EVGA 570 HD Superclocked looks good for the money.
600w Corsair Builder Series CX V2 for the PSU if you choose a single GTX 570. I doubt it would be powerful enough for any of the gaming 600 series GTX's.
8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengence Arctic White as you can probably find it cheap in a lot of places (because it's white it's not a popular choice despite being good ram).
How much will it be all together with a 570?
 

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As Originality put earlier on (and I didn't read it when I should have :teach: . Sorry m8), you are stuck with 1300 mhz ram for the I5 2500k.

Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H for the Motherboard ($114 @ Amazon)
Intel I5 2500k ($199 @ Amazon)
EVGA 570 HD Superclocked (about $270 @ Amazon)
600w Corsair CX V2 PSU ($61.24 @ Amazon)
8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Ripjaws X 1333 mhz ($43 @ Newegg)

That's a little under $690.
 

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As Originality put earlier on (and I didn't read it when I should have :teach: . Sorry m8), you are stuck with 1300 mhz ram for the I5 2500k.

Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H for the Motherboard ($114 @ Amazon)
Intel I5 2500k ($199 @ Amazon)
EVGA 570 HD Superclocked (about $270 @ Amazon)
600w Corsair CX V2 PSU ($61.24 @ Amazon)
8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Ripjaws X 1333 mhz ($43 @ Newegg)

That's a little under $690.
Which CPU would you recommend me in order for me not to get stuck with 1300 mhz.
 

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Why are you worried about ram speed? You're not using an APU. Sandy Bridge will perform pretty much identically with 1333mhz ram and 2133mhz ram. Only worry about faster ram if you're building an AMD APU-based computer.
 

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Why are you worried about ram speed? You're not using an APU. Sandy Bridge will perform pretty much identically with 1333mhz ram and 2133mhz ram. Only worry about faster ram if you're building an AMD APU-based computer.
I'm not worried about it, I was just curious. Question, is it really necessary to get a GTX 670? Both the 670 and 570 seem to be a bit pricey...
 

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Go with the 560 Ti if you want, it should be suitable enough. You can always hit the AMD route for something a little more powerful at a cheaper price, at the cost of driver support.
 

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My friend has a 560 Ti 448 core, which is basically a 570, and it runs everything on at least high at 1080p. It has slight lag playing Battlefield 3 on ultra. You can get a cheaper card and still play everything, hell, a $70 Radeon 6670 will play everything, just not maxed out. My A8-3870K plays everything and i don't even have a graphics card installed.
 

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If help is needed go to reddit.com/r/buildapc, and reddit.com/r/buildapcsales for pc part sale!
 

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So far I have this,
Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H for the Motherboard ($114 @ Amazon)
Intel I5 2500k ($199 @ Amazon)
EVGA 570 HD Superclocked (about $270 @ Amazon)
600w Corsair CX V2 PSU ($61.24 @ Amazon)
8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Ripjaws X 1333 mhz ($43 @ Newegg)

Do we all agree with this build? Or should I get something cheaper?
 

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Sure that's the card you want? You can squeeze by with getting 4 gigs of ram if you wanna save a bit more, nothing really needs 8 gigs unless you're into like hardcore video editing or something.
 

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Gaming is not video editing.

You don't need more than 4GB, but RAM is so cheap that there's no harm in getting 8GB.

This person clearly doesn't do much with computers.
While the person is correct you wouldn't need more than 4 GB ram for a specific game.
But assuming you are a normal gamer, you'll be running a browser with tons of tabs open for later read, having a video player in the background, having a chat program open to talk with friends, steam, origin, having music playing AND the specific game you'll be playing. You'll easily come up above 4 GB. Sometimes you'll even be having 2 games open because 1st game requires you to wait on friends or similar before you can start gaming so you'll be playing game nr 2 in the meantime.

As for me, I work with music on my computer and I had 8 GB ram. I opened up a music project and wanted to copy over some instruments and patterns from a different music project so I opened that one aswell.
Guess what, I was out of ram! Having turned off the pagefile, my computer just crashed.

Get 16 GB directly. RAM is cheap.
Also, turn off pagefile if you value your harddrives. The pagefile basically saves you when you're running out of ram. Turning it off is something you should do directly when you've got 16 GB ram.
 

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Sure that's the card you want? You can squeeze by with getting 4 gigs of ram if you wanna save a bit more, nothing really needs 8 gigs unless you're into like hardcore video editing or something.
This card will get me maxed settings correct? I mean, if necessary I'll go get a GTX 670.

P.S. I am a video editor btw...
 

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Go with the 560 Ti if you want, it should be suitable enough. You can always hit the AMD route for something a little more powerful at a cheaper price, at the cost of driver support.
EVGA Superclocked? A link would be appreciated. xD
 

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Gaming is not video editing.

You don't need more than 4GB, but RAM is so cheap that there's no harm in getting 8GB.

This person clearly doesn't do much with computers.
While the person is correct you wouldn't need more than 4 GB ram for a specific game.
But assuming you are a normal gamer, you'll be running a browser with tons of tabs open for later read, having a video player in the background, having a chat program open to talk with friends, steam, origin, having music playing AND the specific game you'll be playing. You'll easily come up above 4 GB. Sometimes you'll even be having 2 games open because 1st game requires you to wait on friends or similar before you can start gaming so you'll be playing game nr 2 in the meantime.

As for me, I work with music on my computer and I had 8 GB ram. I opened up a music project and wanted to copy over some instruments and patterns from a different music project so I opened that one aswell.
Guess what, I was out of ram! Having turned off the pagefile, my computer just crashed.

Get 16 GB directly. RAM is cheap.
Also, turn off pagefile if you value your harddrives. The pagefile basically saves you when you're running out of ram. Turning it off is something you should do directly when you've got 16 GB ram.
Ok, that's you. I'm not even going to get into how I use my computers/laptops. Now back on topic: what the OP wants/needs.

The OP hasn't made any indication that they will have half of what you've described. Also the OP hasn't made any indication that they will play any more than one game at a time. No game can currently use more than 2GB of RAM (last I checked) and Windows will automatically optimise its own RAM footprint dependant on what's available. This is why most system builders say you do not need more than 4GB of RAM. Most don't even use 3GB.

EDIT: ok, I didn't see the OP's edit that he will be video editing. Also be the point where I made that post (on the first page), he hadn't mentioned it. RAM requirements depends on the size of the video editing projects you'll be working on. Needless to say, multi-layered projects at 1200p will take up much more memory than a single layered project at 420p.

As for your browser with lots of tabs eating up your RAM... There's a fix for that. Browser extensions/plugins exist to kill the memory footprint of inactive tabs. Sure, you might not need it anymore with your 16GB of RAM... But it's there if you manage to fill that up too.
 
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32 Bit programs can hold no more than 2 gig of ram. 64 bit can go plenty over however. So expect in the future to see games & programs which consume more than 2 gig of ram.

But the most important thing about RAM these days is that it's CHEAP. Don't kid yourself and buy too little.

Oh and regarding 670 GTX. I just purchased such a gfx card myself. I bought the ASUS Direct CU 2 version cause it has a special nice cooler.
A friend enlightened me on the Arctic Accelero Xtreme 3 aswell... If you want to use your computer very silently it might be interesting to you if you have a bunch of extra $$$.
Check out a review here: http://www.kitguru.n...irectcu-ii-top/
Ofc, that is with the 680 GTX, but the cooler also works with the 670 GTX.

Oh and regarding win 7 ram caps (so don't buy/get anything other than professional and higher):
  • Starter: 8GB
  • Home Basic: 8GB
  • Home Premium: 16GB
  • Professional and higher: 192GB
 

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