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<blockquote data-quote="Prophet" data-source="post: 4614469" data-attributes="member: 3089"><p>It’s the wonky definition of theft that you are endorsing that’s leading to the weird logic here. I agree that the replacement example is an instance of theft. But for it to be theft as YOU define, it would require some loss or damage. If no loss or damage occurred and we still agree that it was a theft, then your definition is wrong which would open the door for an interpretation of copyright infringement as another possible form of non-loss/damage theft. My own point ended there.</p><p> </p><p>However you thought it wise to press on and suggest that there is in fact a loss/damage that occurs in the replacement example. Citing a “special” sentimental value assigned to the original, which renders it irreplaceable even with an indistinguishable copy. Your folly here is in proposing “specialness” as a relevant thing when identifying loss. My response was simply, if you are willing to rest your argument on an intangible assigned value (“specialness”), then I can’t see how you can deny an argument which regards a copyright holder as incurring a loss of their exclusive right (intangible) to produce and distribute an object, when their copyright is infringed upon. This appears no more or less dependent upon an intangible concept, yet you reel against it. That’s strange – arbitrary and inconsistent even.</p><p> </p><p>I’m essentially letting you pick your poison and entertaining the discrepancies in your position. I personally don’t think private property is grounded in any intrinsic logic or morality, which is precisely why so many discrepancies arise – the whole concept is unsound to begin with. I would argue that private property is just a strange and problematic social construct. I just enjoy watching folks who I presume normally cling to the comforts found in the illusion of private property, suddenly switch gears when they want to erect an argument to defend their tendency to pirate goods. I'm an adorable douche, in that way. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite50" alt=":shy:" title="shy :shy:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":shy:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prophet, post: 4614469, member: 3089"] It’s the wonky definition of theft that you are endorsing that’s leading to the weird logic here. I agree that the replacement example is an instance of theft. But for it to be theft as YOU define, it would require some loss or damage. If no loss or damage occurred and we still agree that it was a theft, then your definition is wrong which would open the door for an interpretation of copyright infringement as another possible form of non-loss/damage theft. My own point ended there. However you thought it wise to press on and suggest that there is in fact a loss/damage that occurs in the replacement example. Citing a “special” sentimental value assigned to the original, which renders it irreplaceable even with an indistinguishable copy. Your folly here is in proposing “specialness” as a relevant thing when identifying loss. My response was simply, if you are willing to rest your argument on an intangible assigned value (“specialness”), then I can’t see how you can deny an argument which regards a copyright holder as incurring a loss of their exclusive right (intangible) to produce and distribute an object, when their copyright is infringed upon. This appears no more or less dependent upon an intangible concept, yet you reel against it. That’s strange – arbitrary and inconsistent even. I’m essentially letting you pick your poison and entertaining the discrepancies in your position. I personally don’t think private property is grounded in any intrinsic logic or morality, which is precisely why so many discrepancies arise – the whole concept is unsound to begin with. I would argue that private property is just a strange and problematic social construct. I just enjoy watching folks who I presume normally cling to the comforts found in the illusion of private property, suddenly switch gears when they want to erect an argument to defend their tendency to pirate goods. I'm an adorable douche, in that way. :shy: [/QUOTE]
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