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<blockquote data-quote="FaTaL_ErRoR" data-source="post: 5866218" data-attributes="member: 346523"><p>Actually, this is wrong . . . . . Yep spaces before dots....lolol . . . . </p><p>It is by far easier to teach someone who is genuinely interested in learning that has little to no knowledge then it is to teach someone with a ton of knowledge in the incorrect area.</p><p>Someone with heavy knowledge in x86 programming will have a difficult time with ARM RE. Someone with no knowledge will not be attempting to program from a different language they are used to writing in. (because they don't have that knowledge of other structures)</p><p>Sure there will be more learning involved but there won't be any other stuff getting in their way. Everything they learn won't be overlooked because they aren't looking for familiar coding. (because nothing is familiar yet)</p><p>Things in other types of structure IE x86, ect may be vulnerable to certain attacks that ppc or ARM are not. They won't have that comparison to go by so they won't be held back by attempting to exploit that area because to them it is already not exploitable.</p><p>Many great hackers never attended one class in computer forensics or computer programming. Many of the greats never completed high school.</p><p>Everything learned was learned on their own. Self education on hacking in general and a strong will to break it is usually how they make their claim to fame. Don't be so quick to dismiss people, did you have a bad childhood?? Would explain your general bitterness.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My advice to the OP would be to spend little time in already exploited vulnerabilities in older nintendo architecture as most of it is fixed on the newer console. And spend more time with the unknown. One area I can for sure tell you is worth looking into is during the "checking disc" (aka checking format and set up of usb device)</p><p>IOS is very vulnerable. To the point that telling it to reset does just that. (This holds true for every device on the market currently not just the wii u)</p><p>It is doing a full read on the device and a ton of it's security protocol is terminated during this process. A little bit of firmware alteration to the usb device and some knowledge on IOSU and you have a viable entrypoint. From there it will be a series of attacks that cause IOSU to basically shut down (at least from a security aspect) and allow code execution. Sound simple? It's not really as simple as it sounds. There is a tremendous amount of information that needs to be learned. But, I have faith that you will become a very knowledgeable person in the art of hacking.</p><p>Best advice would be to ignore the hate from all websites and just get to work. Keep your mind open and don't become discouraged when attempts fail. Also, learn to know when to stop attempting to exploit a vulnerability that you are having trouble with executing and move on to another area to exploit. With that also don't give up too quickly and don't assume since nothing happened with 5 minutes of attempts that it is no longer exploitable.</p><p>And many times patches to already existing exploits only require slight changes to re exploit. As in making flooded attempts at something that has been "patched" sometimes will also resurrect a once thought to be patched exploit. Most of the time the patch attempts to resolve the issue by returning either the rendered item (by actually displaying it) or it sends "fail". Sometimes if requested enough times that area that is patched becomes very vulnerable once again because it still hasn't processed the original request before it was sent to it 100 more times. This can cause it to leak and can allow for a buffer overflow. And now you have a new/old functional exploit. Anyway, you have much learning to do so I will leave you to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FaTaL_ErRoR, post: 5866218, member: 346523"] Actually, this is wrong . . . . . Yep spaces before dots....lolol . . . . It is by far easier to teach someone who is genuinely interested in learning that has little to no knowledge then it is to teach someone with a ton of knowledge in the incorrect area. Someone with heavy knowledge in x86 programming will have a difficult time with ARM RE. Someone with no knowledge will not be attempting to program from a different language they are used to writing in. (because they don't have that knowledge of other structures) Sure there will be more learning involved but there won't be any other stuff getting in their way. Everything they learn won't be overlooked because they aren't looking for familiar coding. (because nothing is familiar yet) Things in other types of structure IE x86, ect may be vulnerable to certain attacks that ppc or ARM are not. They won't have that comparison to go by so they won't be held back by attempting to exploit that area because to them it is already not exploitable. Many great hackers never attended one class in computer forensics or computer programming. Many of the greats never completed high school. Everything learned was learned on their own. Self education on hacking in general and a strong will to break it is usually how they make their claim to fame. Don't be so quick to dismiss people, did you have a bad childhood?? Would explain your general bitterness. My advice to the OP would be to spend little time in already exploited vulnerabilities in older nintendo architecture as most of it is fixed on the newer console. And spend more time with the unknown. One area I can for sure tell you is worth looking into is during the "checking disc" (aka checking format and set up of usb device) IOS is very vulnerable. To the point that telling it to reset does just that. (This holds true for every device on the market currently not just the wii u) It is doing a full read on the device and a ton of it's security protocol is terminated during this process. A little bit of firmware alteration to the usb device and some knowledge on IOSU and you have a viable entrypoint. From there it will be a series of attacks that cause IOSU to basically shut down (at least from a security aspect) and allow code execution. Sound simple? It's not really as simple as it sounds. There is a tremendous amount of information that needs to be learned. But, I have faith that you will become a very knowledgeable person in the art of hacking. Best advice would be to ignore the hate from all websites and just get to work. Keep your mind open and don't become discouraged when attempts fail. Also, learn to know when to stop attempting to exploit a vulnerability that you are having trouble with executing and move on to another area to exploit. With that also don't give up too quickly and don't assume since nothing happened with 5 minutes of attempts that it is no longer exploitable. And many times patches to already existing exploits only require slight changes to re exploit. As in making flooded attempts at something that has been "patched" sometimes will also resurrect a once thought to be patched exploit. Most of the time the patch attempts to resolve the issue by returning either the rendered item (by actually displaying it) or it sends "fail". Sometimes if requested enough times that area that is patched becomes very vulnerable once again because it still hasn't processed the original request before it was sent to it 100 more times. This can cause it to leak and can allow for a buffer overflow. And now you have a new/old functional exploit. Anyway, you have much learning to do so I will leave you to it. [/QUOTE]
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