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<blockquote data-quote="Frederica Bernkastel" data-source="post: 4710079" data-attributes="member: 114943"><p>Hey now, it's no secret that Britian died (I estimate in 1997, after the last major anti-freedom bill was passed), but that doesn't mean everyone from there is particularly bad. Your post was a little uncalled for - if the points you're making hold value, they should stand up on their own to any rational person, there is no need to resort to personal attack if this doesn't happen. It just means that either you're wrong, or that person is irrational and that others reading won't be very inclined to take them very seriously either.</p><p> </p><p>You're right about the video-gamers demographic, however, it tends to be a place where immaturity and ignorance run rampant. Why bother doing productive things, and waste your time learning and exercising your powers of rationality, when you can seek an artificial sense of achievement from both videogames and the communities involved?</p><p>I've noticed many of the same attitudes are prevalent in both videogaming communities, roleplaying communities (including the more normal desktop kind - seriously you have no idea how bad some people get with even DnD) and in the anime communities. Interestingly enough, were you aware that the tumblrite 'social justice' movement is an offshoot of some older forum-based roleplaying communities?</p><p>That isn't any reason to judge, however, and I make a point of habit to try and discuss things rationally with people with memberships in forums like these, as belonging to a demographic doesn't make a person. Their personal viewpoints and ideas do.</p><p> </p><p>Censorship is a quick fix, and not one that should be used here.</p><p>It is the fault of the media, with their intent to make money by manipulating the views of their audience, that we all have mixed and contradictory opinions.</p><p> </p><p>If everyone were given the facts, straight up, threads like this one would not reach the same level of controversy. We'd still find a few "special snowflakes" with rebellious opinions, too edgy for us normal folk to understand completely, but they wouldn't get anywhere near the same level of support - and hopefully many would recieve the mental healthcare of which they are so badly in need.</p><p> </p><p>I'm left feeling a little bad for the Martin's, as they've been misled by the same tactics as so many others here. While they were right to seek out a second opinion on what had happened, I think we can all agree that this is is mockery of what that should have entailed.</p><p> </p><p>- Alex.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederica Bernkastel, post: 4710079, member: 114943"] Hey now, it's no secret that Britian died (I estimate in 1997, after the last major anti-freedom bill was passed), but that doesn't mean everyone from there is particularly bad. Your post was a little uncalled for - if the points you're making hold value, they should stand up on their own to any rational person, there is no need to resort to personal attack if this doesn't happen. It just means that either you're wrong, or that person is irrational and that others reading won't be very inclined to take them very seriously either. You're right about the video-gamers demographic, however, it tends to be a place where immaturity and ignorance run rampant. Why bother doing productive things, and waste your time learning and exercising your powers of rationality, when you can seek an artificial sense of achievement from both videogames and the communities involved? I've noticed many of the same attitudes are prevalent in both videogaming communities, roleplaying communities (including the more normal desktop kind - seriously you have no idea how bad some people get with even DnD) and in the anime communities. Interestingly enough, were you aware that the tumblrite 'social justice' movement is an offshoot of some older forum-based roleplaying communities? That isn't any reason to judge, however, and I make a point of habit to try and discuss things rationally with people with memberships in forums like these, as belonging to a demographic doesn't make a person. Their personal viewpoints and ideas do. Censorship is a quick fix, and not one that should be used here. It is the fault of the media, with their intent to make money by manipulating the views of their audience, that we all have mixed and contradictory opinions. If everyone were given the facts, straight up, threads like this one would not reach the same level of controversy. We'd still find a few "special snowflakes" with rebellious opinions, too edgy for us normal folk to understand completely, but they wouldn't get anywhere near the same level of support - and hopefully many would recieve the mental healthcare of which they are so badly in need. I'm left feeling a little bad for the Martin's, as they've been misled by the same tactics as so many others here. While they were right to seek out a second opinion on what had happened, I think we can all agree that this is is mockery of what that should have entailed. - Alex. [/QUOTE]
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