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UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
And people who feel like they have it.
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here is the scary part, you can't know if you have it. Some people are asymptomatic.
UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
Most people are asymptomatic.
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so that's the kicker. You can't know if you could infect and kill someone else. So since you can't know definitively if you are infectious - it becomes necessary to have everyone wear a mask. A simple, lightweight, cheap and easy way to help save lives.
UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
How many times do I have to say this? If most people don't know if they have it, it doesn't matter.
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but the lives that are lost - do those matter? Or are those just a decimal point to you. If we can save human life- don't we have the obligation to try?
UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
Obesity kills millions each year. Should we outlaw junk food?
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you didn't answer my question. Do the lives that are lost matter?
UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
Yes, but freedom matters more than anything. (Except God, but I doubt you believe in Him.)
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freedom matters more than anything? But you already agreed freedom does not include getting people sick (knowingly) - and if you can't know if you are sick or not - then isn't the best thing to do wear a mask just to be safe. Isn't the small inconvenience worth a life
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
As someone with a relative on the verge of death from COVID,I can say firsthand that it’s not worth risking your life for this
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Chary
Chary
“But I doubt you believe in him” oh my gosh it’s petty childish snark meets 92 year old bible thumper levels of condescending. Who are you to question anyone’s faith. Gosh dang.
UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
Our Founding Fathers risked everything to establish this country.
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yeah they risked a lot, even they didn't agree you should be able to hurt people. And guess what they didn't believe in unlimited freedom because they owned slaves. Times change man - and we need to protect each other.
relauby
relauby
I think the issue here @UltraSUPRA is that you’re not really explaining where you’re coming from. You make these declarative statements like “Freedom matters above all else” but don’t explain why you feel that way. Why freedom is more important than saving lives, or why assault isn’t covered under the “freedom is most important” declaration,
relauby
relauby
or why some things are considered intrinsic freedoms but other similar things aren’t. You state your values as if they’re self-evident fact, but they obviously aren’t, because nobody knows what the hell you’re talking about, which is why you get bombarded with fifty questions after every post
UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
I'll put this as simply as possible.

It's not your responsibility to protect strangers.
Julie_Pilgrim
Julie_Pilgrim
So it’s fine if I let my friend run over people because “it’s not my responsibility to protect strangers”
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not even from yourself? You sound like Cain bro "Where is your brother Cain?" "what am I my brother's keeper?"
UltraSUPRA
UltraSUPRA
I shouldn't have been saying assault. The correct word is violence.
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