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I'd be careful with such claims since you don't seem capable of distinguishing your and you're.
There's a huge difference between a typo and intentionally misusing words multiple times.
Answer the question. Do you want a medal? Also, the irony of you of all people trying to stay on the moral high ground, hilariously pathetic.
I'd like my metal in gold please.
Plot twist: he can't. Besides they would be medically unsafe.
Gov Ralph "blackface" Northam advocated for after birth abortions and he's supposedly a doctor and was a governor of a major state who received millions of votes when he won election. Not exactly some nobody from some backwoods town nobody's ever heard of. Virginia also tried to pass a bill legalizing after birth abortion. Luckily, it failed in committee.

Before you say I can't prove something, you better make damn sure I can't prove it. Now you look foolish.
 

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It's amazing how all the pro-birthers here are calling abortion "murder" and yet were happy to ignore any lockdown measure at the peak of the pandemic "because of the economy". I guess sick and elderly don't count as people for them?
It's amazing how all the Branch Covidians ignore studies that prove they have been wrong on every single issue, but let's try and keep it on topic, mmkay?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/johns-h...ckdowns-only-reduced-covid-19-death-rate-by-2
 

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Before you say I can't prove something, you better make damn sure I can't prove it. Now you look foolish.

Nah that's still you.

I'd like my metal in gold please.

Denied. You only did what a husband would do.

There's a huge difference between a typo and intentionally misusing words multiple times.

Except that your "typos" are real and betray ignorance, this word abuse you talk of is totally imaginary.

Gov Ralph "blackface" Northam advocated for after birth abortions and he's supposedly a doctor and was a governor of a major state who received millions of votes when he won election. Not exactly some nobody from some backwoods town nobody's ever heard of. Virginia also tried to pass a bill legalizing after birth abortion. Luckily, it failed in committee.

Is that the best you have? Hearsay and unverified stuff?
 
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If it's usually 12 weeks old, then stop advocating for 9 month abortions.
Not you personally. The left in general.
Straw man number1 and unlogical argument, since you made an accusation towards me

Choice for what? Killing babies? Guess what? I can't kill babies either.
You asserted it was to kill babies as your original argument. So your later positions are incoherent with your original reasoning. Since you question me saying that people deserve a choice. aka focused directly on me.
Well golly, let's just allow kindergartners to look at porn in their school libraries. That's not gr00m1ng at all.
Straw man number 2, since it's not porn.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/...na-and-trinity-neal-illustrated-by-art-twink/
https://books.google.com/books/about/Téo_s_Tutu.html?id=zAdAEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description
just a sample of some of the books being banned. All specifically towards trans individuals or queer.
The only people who paint El Salvadordans is you since I had to provide the distinction.
Strawman 3 and dodging the argument.
Strawman due to the fact that I never said they looked alike. And I had to provide a distinction, since your own party refuses to acknowledge that there is a distinction, via "the illegals" and boiling it down all to that/dehumanizing.

If we said "el salvador immigrants" people would be a lot more aware of the gang conflict that is happening there (since a large bulk of the illegal immigrants are as a result of that conflict. And waiting down at the border is not a good idea, when the gang will actively hunt you down and shoot you.)
But your party would rather deflect, and boil it down to "illegals" and bash on them. Not like your party also made it way harder to get refugee status... oh wait. They did. (and if I'm not mistakened biden hasn't fixed that. So he get's a layer of shit as well.)

And you dodged an argument. Earlier "on Trader brain hemorrhages"
This is a dodged argument after I countered your assertion, and now your dropping it.
Really entertaining how you want to throw everything at the wall at me.
I guarantee that you have always been against building the wall and you are perfectly ok with 6 million illegal aliens in 18 months because "we made the problem".
Building a wall is ineffective. I'm not even talking from a political stand point. I'm just talking basic ass maintenance and up keep cost, topped with the fact people WILL find ways around that wall. In some places (in the world) if there was some sort of choke point then yes a wall is feasible.
But for the US, no we can't, primarily because the amount of distance that would have to be covered, ontop of the geological area not being exactly well suited for building without proper treatment. Otherwise you get the current wall now, which is toppling over itself. The foundation is not stable.

I propose a better solution. Fix the problem we made. It's like drinking soda after every meal, and trying to lose weight. So instead you drink a fuck ton of water so you piss the soda out in hoping that it helps loose weight.
Why not just remove the soda? Putting a wall up doesn't fix the problem, it just makes it easier to ignore the problem.
So you are saying that the entire country decided all at once to completely flip, even though less than a handful of national politicians actually changed parties.
"All at once"

Wow. no go on ahead, just skip the fact that it took roughly 24 years for that flip to happen, and it didn't even happen evenly. But okay sure. Whatever.
? If the parties truly flipped, why were there still segregationists in the Democrat Party into the 80's?
Because it didn't happen all at once? Granted you clearly skipped that reading or at least comprehension and went straight to responding.
The map shows that it didn't happen all at once. But it happened "very rapidly"
Places that were solidly one color for over 60 years. Switched in the span of 20.
Republicans adopted again, southern strategy. You had the KKK literately openly support Nixon. which, again, as we know, Republicans (in name) supported civil rights. But that conflicts with their current image. Just like how Democrats modern image, doesn't fit their previous language either. If you did just the slightest analysis of their talking points, it would of also been obvious that a party switch happened.

Parties and their meaning change with time, just like words, just like gestures. Course, your going to go ahead and reject that too. Since already you dodged the KKK and Nixon situation. And tried to strawman me to hell and back. And just didn't do any thinking at all when I presented the maps to you.
 
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Nah that's still you.
Denial is not a river in Egypt.
Denied. You only did what a husband would do.
I was really hoping to score some gold to counteract all this transitory inflation going on.
Except that your "typos" are real and betray ignorance, this word abuse you talk of is totally imaginary.
As imaginary as you arguing based on science instead of emotion?
Is that the best you have? Hearsay and unverified stuff?
Say you're scared of watching the man say it on video and a finding a copy of the proposed bill without saying you are scared.
 

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If you would have actually read the story, you would have noticed a link to the actual study. Somehow I knew you would do this so it's no surprise. This is why your arguments fail. You refuse to actually read up on topics.

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/f...ffects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

A paper discredited by basically everyone because it was not methodologically sound and rigorous? Is this another regnerus nonsense? Even the way it's written is ridiculous and unscientific. But I suppose you love it since it's been dumbed down to your level!

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

It definitely is an area of your smooth brain.

was really hoping to score some gold to counteract all this transitory inflation going on.

And yet biden's economic growth outclassed Trump years.

As imaginary as you arguing based on science instead of emotion?

Unfortunately for you I do argue relying on science.

Say you're scared of watching the man say it on video and a finding a copy of the proposed bill without saying you are scared.

I did look him up and couldn't even find evidence of the "blackface" part. See, this is what your illiteracy does to you.
 
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As imaginary as you arguing based on science instead of emotion?
You know what? Let's experience some true brain trauma.
Do you think leftists enable abortions as an option because we want fetuses dead?
No.
We (this is an asserted we, as other leftists may have other reasons. So in otherwords, what I think others think, but not sure if it's actually what they think)
allow the option because of 3 pretenses
1. If we are bringing a life to the world, it better be A DAMN GOOD LIFE for that kid. Abortions allow in the cases of condoms failing or birth control failing. Enable the ability to prevent a life from constant suffering through bad conditions due to parents not being ready.

2. Life starts at self awareness or a a abstract difficult to explain level of brain function. And Mother awareness
A fetus, at 9-12 weeks, has little no self awareness or brain function, the entity merely exists, it's not aware of it's existences, nor even capable of developing memories. The brain isn't developed (ie brain function) to the point it looks remotely close to a developed baby. Thus it's reason to assume that while an arbitrary line, it's a safe line.
As the heartbeat bill (and others) is cruelly crafted so that way by the time mothers know they are pregnant, it's too late. It's unfair to the women in every aspect.
3. Forcing life, is not the best option
A pro life stance forces life to exist without any stipulations or exceptions, and even more concerningly, is unable to account for unforseen situations. Even if you made as many possible exceptions, you'd still be missing more exceptions to that law.

I didn't think I would be talking about a headless baby, but I am now. There's a women who is going to have to carry a headless baby to term, and then watch it die. And this brings a question. There's nothing regarding deformities in such bills. I'm talking serious impairment physically speaking that could be life threatening later on. Or cause extreme suffering.
 
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Straw man number1 and unlogical argument, since you made an accusation towards me


You asserted it was to kill babies as your original argument. So your later positions are incoherent with your original reasoning. Since you question me saying that people deserve a choice. aka focused directly on me.
What is the choice? To allow a baby to live or to not let it live. You argue like the "right to choice" is some abstract concept.
Straw man number 2, since it's not porn.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/...na-and-trinity-neal-illustrated-by-art-twink/
https://books.google.com/books/about/Téo_s_Tutu.html?id=zAdAEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description
just a sample of some of the books being banned. All specifically towards trans individuals or queer.
This is what you want kindergartners to read.

https://theiowastandard.com/shockin...h-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/
Strawman 3 and dodging the argument.
Strawman due to the fact that I never said they looked alike. And I had to provide a distinction, since your own party refuses to acknowledge that there is a distinction, via "the illegals" and boiling it down all to that/dehumanizing.
You are the one who was arguing that it was only Mexicans. I had to share a Pew Research article proving you wrong. Now you want to gaslight to defend yourself.
If we said "el salvador immigrants" people would be a lot more aware of the gang conflict that is happening there (since a large bulk of the illegal immigrants are as a result of that conflict. And waiting down at the border is not a good idea, when the gang will actively hunt you down and shoot you.)
But your party would rather deflect, and boil it down to "illegals" and bash on them. Not like your party also made it way harder to get refugee status... oh wait. They did. (and if I'm not mistakened biden hasn't fixed that. So he get's a layer of shit as well.)
Those gang conflicts are being imported here. And 9 more illegal aliens just drowned trying to cross the border. If only we had a system that people could use instead of breaking the law. Hmmm...
And you dodged an argument. Earlier "on Trader brain hemorrhages"

This is a dodged argument after I countered your assertion, and now your dropping it.
Really entertaining how you want to throw everything at the wall at me.
I don't argue against personal attacks. I let them stand to show how weak your arguments are.
Building a wall is ineffective. I'm not even talking from a political stand point. I'm just talking basic ass maintenance and up keep cost, topped with the fact people WILL find ways around that wall. In some places (in the world) if there was some sort of choke point then yes a wall is feasible.
Tell Biden that as we are paying for him to build a wall around his Delaware home.
But for the US, no we can't, primarily because the amount of distance that would have to be covered, ontop of the geological area not being exactly well suited for building without proper treatment. Otherwise you get the current wall now, which is toppling over itself. The foundation is not stable.
The Great Wall of China worked just fine and also covers a great distance.
I propose a better solution. Fix the problem we made. It's like drinking soda after every meal, and trying to lose weight. So instead you drink a fuck ton of water so you piss the soda out in hoping that it helps loose weight.
Why not just remove the soda? Putting a wall up doesn't fix the problem, it just makes it easier to ignore the problem.
The left argues with the assumption that the wall is the only solution because you know walls work. That's why they are put up everywhere for security.
"All at once"

Wow. no go on ahead, just skip the fact that it took roughly 24 years for that flip to happen, and it didn't even happen evenly. But okay sure. Whatever.

Because it didn't happen all at once? Granted you clearly skipped that reading or at least comprehension and went straight to responding.
The map shows that it didn't happen all at once. But it happened "very rapidly"
Places that were solidly one color for over 60 years. Switched in the span of 20.
Republicans adopted again, southern strategy. You had the KKK literately openly support Nixon. which, again, as we know, Republicans (in name) supported civil rights. But that conflicts with their current image. Just like how Democrats modern image, doesn't fit their previous language either. If you did just the slightest analysis of their talking points, it would of also been obvious that a party switch happened.

Parties and their meaning change with time, just like words, just like gestures. Course, your going to go ahead and reject that too. Since already you dodged the KKK and Nixon situation. And tried to strawman me to hell and back. And just didn't do any thinking at all when I presented the maps to you.
You neglected to address why there were segregationists and KKK members in the Democrat Party all the way to the 2000's. What was it that Johnson said about black people voting Democrat for the next 200 years? Not to mention all the racist things Biden said during the 2020 election.
 
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A paper discredited by basically everyone because it was not methodologically sound and rigorous? Is this another regnerus nonsense? Even the way it's written is ridiculous and unscientific. But I suppose you love it since it's been dumbed down to your level!
So Johns Hopkins is discredited now. Bold move Cotton.
It definitely is an area of your smooth brain.
Sick burn.
And yet biden's economic growth outclassed Trump years.
We haven't even recovered all the jobs lost from the Democrat governors' lockdowns. Stock market is not as high. Energy prices are out of control and inflation is hurting poor people. Not to mention, we are in a recession right now.
Unfortunately for you I do argue relying on science.
You haven't said one scientific thing since you started responding to me.
I did look him up and couldn't even find evidence of the "blackface" part. See, this is what your illiteracy does to you.
This was so easy to find, even you could have done it.
 

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So Johns Hopkins is discredited now. Bold move Cotton.

Can you read, illiterate? I said the paper. Not the University.

We haven't even recovered all the jobs lost from the Democrat governors' lockdowns. Stock market is not as high. Energy prices are out of control and inflation is hurting poor people. Not to mention, we are in a recession right now.

You can blame your hero Putin for it, and Trumpo for having made the vaccine a political issue.

This was so easy to find, even you could have done it

There's been a whole investigation about it which said "it ain't him". And even if it were true, I'd be less worried about a blackface than I'd be about Jim Crow laws which you RepubliKKKans love.
 

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Make up your mind. Either it's in school library or in kindergarten library. It can't be in both.
Where do you think kindergartners go to learn?
Really? Such as?
You ain't black if you don't vote for him.

Poor kids are just as bright as white kids.

They are used to being experimented on—the Tuskegee Airmen and others.

Unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things.

Responding to a question on whether he had taken a cognitive test, Biden angrily fired back with the suggestion that the black reporter was a drug addict.
“That’s like saying you . . . before you got in this program, you’re take [sic] a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not,” Biden said. “What do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie?”

In 2007, he referred to Barack Obama as “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

In 2006, he said, “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”

Way back in 1977, he said that forced busing to desegregate schools would cause his children to “grow up in a racial jungle.”

He infamously worked with segregationist senators to oppose that mandatory busing, which decades later led to the strongest moment in Kamala Harris’s campaign for president, when she blasted him as having personally impacted her as a young girl.

Is this enough examples for you?
 
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Where do you think kindergartners go to learn?

Kindergarten library, not school library. Different places, doofus.

Is this enough examples for you?

They would be if they weren't de-contextualised or if they were actually racist. I wasn't aware that "poor" was a race btw.

On that note, Obama took him as VP and they were great friends. And I think he knows better than you about whether Biden is a racist. So again, you're full of shite.
 

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What is the choice? To allow a baby to live or to not let it live. You argue like the "right to choice" is some abstract concept.
aka literately the right to choose. right now you, and your party makes it "always yes"
You don't let the person choose yes or no.
This is what you want kindergartners to read.
That's just fucking false and a half. It's targeted to 16-18 year olds. Why?
https://www.amazon.com/Gender-Queer-Memoir-Maia-Kobabe/dp/1549304003
how about the actual amazon listing. Your argument doesn't stand any ground.
Especially since
"a book in schools across Iowa"
is this high school?
Pre k?
doesn't tell you. If they specified what school and what grade, I'd have more reason to believe.
I don't argue against personal attacks. I let them stand to show how weak your arguments are.
dude. YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
Not after you littearly just :
Many of the women and children were sex trafficked here. And you applaud it.
Tried to assert that I applaud sex trafficking, with NO EVIDENCE.
How sad do you have to be to not only get owned for getting nailed for dropping a bad argument. But doubling down on it and then grandstanding ontop of it. Your hubris is insane.
The Great Wall of China worked just fine and also covers a great distance.
is the great wall in the middle of a desert and ontop of a fuck ton of shifting grain? Also having to deal with extreme heat and cold which can result in build materials expanding and contracting and eventually breaking the foundation? Not saying it's impossible, but it's going to take a lot more work and investment than just fixing the actual problem.
The left argues with the assumption that the wall is the only solution because you know walls work. That's why they are put up everywhere for security.
BAAAAAAAH
wow imagine thinking that you can just, throw down a wall anywhere at any time. With absolutely no prep work.
You neglected to address why there were segregationists and KKK members in the Democrat Party all the way to the 2000's.
When you need more whataboutism as much as possible to keep avoiding answering that southern strategy was used, or that the KKK loudly supported the Republican party. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...ke-says-of-course-trump-voters-are-his-voters
or that you know. Behind Trump too. I can keep adding onto the list if you'd like.
 
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