So, uh... the gas prices

[TraderPatTX]

Right, but as you pointed out, that's because strategic reserves are being released. Once that dries up corporations will go right back to gouging people just because they can.


Slave labor is not a requirement, and it still pollutes/destabilizes a lot less land than drilling for oil/fracking.


I was identifying a problem without a current solution, not "complaining." Nuclear power is the best stopgap for the US in particular until we reach a breakthrough in battery technology. That said, a lot of states also have the option to go 100% renewable right now.

Prices will go back up because of simple supply and demand. Econ 101, familiarize yourself with it.

It just so happens that rare earth materials for batteries are all mined in third world countries. Do you think they have a 40 hour work week and livable wages? I laugh in your general direction.

You admit that we are being transitioned to a technology that needs a breakthrough. At least we were able to meet part of the way. That's progress.

 

[City]

thats the price we have to pay to not let russia win in ukraine, even if thousands will die of cold in the west,that is a small price to not let russia win

Damn are you a muslim political terrorist? Because that's one massive suicide bombing to your own campaign.

 

[TraderPatTX]

I'm not a fan of paying someone else's mortgage through exploitation of the housing market.

You are about to be forced to pay other people's student loans if the resident gets his way.

 

[Jayro]

You are about to be forced to pay other people's student loans if the resident gets his way.

Whatever makes things easier for people to get educated.

 

[matthi321]

Damn are you a muslim political terrorist? Because that's one massive suicide bombing to your own campaign.

no im just a ukraine supporter.ukriane winning this war is the only thing thats matters now.fuck our own people in the west,if some poor fuckers die of cold or hunger,so be it we cant leet russia win this war.besides if russia win this war, they will just continue to annex countries,until they have annexd the whole world including Antarctia

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[City]

no im just a ukraine supporter.ukriane winning this war is the only thing thats matters now.fuck our own people in the west,if some poor fuckers die of cold or hunger,so be it we cant leet russia win this war.besides if russia win this war, they will just continue to annex countries,until they have annexd the whole world including Antarctia

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Except Ukraine is never going to win the war alone. The only way for Ukraine to win the war is to be granted a NATO membership, but that will never happen. So maybe let's not make people die of frostbite just because we're too chicken to stop this war by doing the only right thing.

We stopped buying oil from Russia. What did India and other countries do? Bought them at a lower price. The money pressure is clearly not working.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Whatever makes things easier for people to get educated.

So you support educated people being homeless? Why be willing to pay for one and not the other?

 

[Xzi]

Prices will go back up because of simple supply and demand. Econ 101, familiarize yourself with it.

Wrong, I already told you the price per barrel of oil is at the same level as the late 2000s. Therefore if corporations are charging more per a gallon of gas than they were at that time, it's unnecessary gouging/profiteering, plain and simple. You don't gotta shill for fucking Exxon, much as you seem to enjoy it.

It just so happens that rare earth materials for batteries are all mined in third world countries. Do you think they have a 40 hour work week and livable wages? I laugh in your general direction.

The corporations producing solar panels and wind turbines are international. Same as oil corporations. This is just concern trolling.

You admit that we are being transitioned to a technology that needs a breakthrough. At least we were able to meet part of the way. That's progress.

Again your reading comprehension has failed you. We need a breakthrough in battery technology (or grid capacity) to transfer green energy to certain specific states that don't get enough sun or wind to generate their own. At least half the country could switch to 100% renewables without any issue right now. The other half is better off using nuclear power in the meantime to reduce emissions and pollution.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Wrong, I already told you the price per barrel of oil is at the same level as the late 2000s. Therefore if corporations are charging more per a gallon of gas than they were at that time, it's unnecessary gouging/profiteering, plain and simple. You don't gotta shill for fucking Exxon, much as you seem to enjoy it.


The corporations producing solar panels and wind turbines are international. Same as oil corporations. This is just concern trolling.


Again your reading comprehension has failed you. We need a breakthrough in battery technology (or grid capacity) to transfer green energy to certain specific states that don't get enough sun or wind to generate their own. At least half the country could switch to 100% renewables without any issue right now. The other half is better off using nuclear power in the meantime to reduce emissions and pollution.

So every energy company all around the world are price gouging in unison? Our prices are a lot better than Europe's because they depend on other countries for their energy and that supply got cut off. Supply/demand. Please read up on it.

So solar and wind corporations are just as evil as oil companies. Duly noted.

So we need a breakthrough but half the country could switch right now. Your cognitive dissonance is astounding.

 

[Xzi]

So every energy company all around the world are price gouging in unison?

"Every" he says, as if there aren't only three or four major international oil players that can easily coordinate price fixing.

So solar and wind corporations are just as evil as oil companies. Duly noted.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but the product provided by wind and solar companies can make countries, states, or even individuals energy independent. Meaning it's virtually impossible to gouge the middle and lower classes if we transition to renewables fully. The price of renewables per kWh is already much lower than that of electricity generated by oil, coal, or natural gas.

So we need a breakthrough but half the country could switch right now. Your cognitive dissonance is astounding.

I've been trying my hardest not to insult you, but fuck, your stupidity is really testing my patience here. How is it "cognitive dissonance" if I tell you that one half of the country could fully switch to renewables now, but THE OTHER HALF needs to utilize a stopgap instead? You understand that 50% + 50% = 100%, yes?

 

[TraderPatTX]

"Every" he says, as if there aren't only three or four major international oil players that can easily coordinate price fixing.


There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but the product provided by wind and solar companies can make countries, states, or even individuals energy independent. Meaning it's virtually impossible to gouge the middle and lower classes if we transition to renewables fully. The price of renewables per kWh is already much lower than that of electricity generated by oil, coal, or natural gas.


I've been trying my hardest not to insult you, but fuck, your stupidity is really testing my patience here. How is it "cognitive dissonance" if I tell you that one half of the country could fully switch to renewables now, but THE OTHER HALF needs to utilize a stopgap instead? You understand that 50% + 50% = 100%, yes?

Imagine equating oil to all energy production. Have you never heard of natural gas, propane, or coal? Please read up on topics before commenting.

Tell that to California who pay the highest in energy costs in the country. The cost is lower because we stopped drilling. Supply and demand. For the love God, read up on it.

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. You didn't even back it up with any kind of studies. Sorry if I'm not gonna believe everything you blurt out your butthole.

 

[Xzi]

Imagine equating oil to all energy production. Have you never heard of natural gas, propane, or coal? Please read up on topics before commenting.

You lost the thread somewhere along the way, not me. I was referring specifically to gasoline prices with my comments about gouging and profiteering. You even responded with a comment about strategic reserves being released, remember?

Tell that to California who pay the highest in energy costs in the country. The cost is lower because we stopped drilling.

Lmao way to contradict yourself.

Just because you say something doesn't make it true. You didn't even back it up with any kind of studies. Sorry if I'm not gonna believe everything you blurt out your butthole.

Why the fuck would I need a study for a concept so simple a sixth grader could understand it? Some states do not see enough sunshine or wind annually to generate 100% of their own renewable energy, so installing a high number of solar panels and/or wind turbines in those states would be fruitless. Until we have the battery technology to transfer renewable energy from states that can generate an excess of it, those renewable-deficient states need a stopgap to reduce emissions and pollution generated by oil and natural gas. My suggestion would be nuclear energy, but there are other options as well.

 

[TraderPatTX]

You lost the thread somewhere along the way, not me. I was referring specifically to gasoline prices with my comments about gouging and profiteering. You even responded with a comment about strategic reserves being released, remember?


Lmao way to contradict yourself.


Why the fuck would I need a study for a concept so simple a sixth grader could understand it? Some states do not see enough sunshine or wind annually to generate 100% of their own renewable energy, so installing a high number of solar panels and/or wind turbines in those states would be fruitless. Until we have the battery technology to transfer renewable energy from states that can generate an excess of it, those renewable-deficient states need a stopgap to reduce emissions and pollution generated by oil and natural gas. My suggestion would be nuclear energy, but there are other options as well.

Batteries do not transfer power, they store power. Power lines transfer power. Next you gonna tell me that bullets travels 5 times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun.

 

[Jayro]

So you support educated people being homeless? Why be willing to pay for one and not the other?

If they're educated, they'll have a good career and won't be homeless, duh.

 

[The Catboy]

Government doesn’t control the gas prices and they shouldn’t control them either

 

[TraderPatTX]

If they're educated, they'll have a good career and won't be homeless, duh.

If they are educated, they shouldn't need help paying off their student loans. If they don't know how to pay loans back, they won't know how to pay a mortgage or rent.

Poor people will be paying off loans for people with master's degrees.

 

[Jayro]

If they are educated, they shouldn't need help paying off their student loans. If they don't know how to pay loans back, they won't know how to pay a mortgage or rent.

Poor people will be paying off loans for people with master's degrees.

Studentoans shouldn't exist in the first place, silly.
It's classist as fuck, and only hurts poorer communities, like uh... The entire general population.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Studentoans shouldn't exist in the first place, silly.
It's classist as fuck, and only hurts poorer communities, like uh... The entire general population.

Well, I live in the real world where they do. Wishing them away will not accomplish much.

I think student loans should be backed by the universities and the billions they receive in endowments, which are tax free. Then they will have skin in the game and not offer stupid degrees to people leading to jobs at Starbucks.

Instead they are taxpayer backed and people can't even claim them in a bankruptcy. Thanks Obama.

 

[MikaDubbz]

Tens of thousands of dollars for the gas bill? Where the hell do your parents live?

 

[LainaGabranth]

so called "libertarians" when you suggest we should break free from corporate moguls and be independent syndicalists: