Hacking Question Should you wait for the Online Service before you hack your Switch?

[Der_Blockbuster]

So, in consideration of the steady developments in the Switch's hacking scene, I wondered what consequences we might have to face when softmodding the console.
Im talking about Nintendo taking action to ban people completely from their Platform e.g. Online Gaming, E-Shop etc.
This hasen't been a problem on the Wii U.
I don't wanna risk a ban, becaue we currently don't know what we can expect from their online service.
I don't wanna miss out their Virtual Console and have to worry that my Switch could be permanently banned from playing online so early in it's life span. (Also regarding SSB5 )

So what do you guys think?
Risk it for a biscuit?
Nintendo doesn't care?
Will you instantly install and use any homebrew and don't give a damn about any coming consequences?
Let me know in the comments below!

 

[DocAmes1980]

Virtual Virtual Console is coming soon and you won't have to pay for Super Mario Bros. 3 for the fourth time.

 

[Maximilious]

Virtual Virtual Console is coming soon and you won't have to pay for Super Mario Bros. 3 for the fourth time.

Or Megaman X 1-8, Legacy 1 and Legacy 2. AFAIK aren't the VC games being offered only available to play for a month, then it is changed the next rotating month, or did they change that in a public statement?

 

[pro-pumper]

i dont play online, so...i still waiting for a CFW on 4.0.1

 

[aykay55]

Most people here have two Switches, one for hacking and one for personal use, so won't be a prob for most. However, I only have one, so I took the initiative not to screw with my Switch at all, I'm not gonna lose my fun cause of some crap homebrew I stupidly installed on it.

 

[p0tent]

Do not care about online what so ever.

 

[DocAmes1980]

Or Megaman X 1-8, Legacy 1 and Legacy 2. AFAIK aren't the VC games being offered only available to play for a month, then it is changed the next rotating month, or did they change that in a public statement?

I'm not sure. I think the monthly games will be part of your Nintendo online membership. You will still be able to buy ROMs (VC titles).

 

[aykay55]

Monthly games, voice chat app, eShop exclusive deals, online play, (possible monthly goodies were also hinted at)
Or homebrew
Hard decision, have to admit.

 

[saito1234]

I bought myself a second Switch for CFW/hacks (I was lucky, so it is also on 3.0.2), and I will probably update my main Switch (which is on 4.01 atm) to play Online and stuff.
I think this is the best solution if you want to enjoy both worlds.

 

[the_randomizer]

It depends:

- Will the service be good?
- Will it actually have a good VC library?
- Will it have multimedia services?

If it doesn't have a good infrastructure, I don't see the value.

 

[Disco Inferno]

I care more about not having my game saves stuck to the console than being able to play online. If Nintendo had tied game saves to the game card and/or user account, things would have been different, but as it is, I didn't even consider getting a Switch until there was the possibility of hacking that basic feature in.

 

[Ivellios]

Personally i dont care about Nintendo online services, i already pay for PSN+ so i see no need for another subscription. Besides i only bought the Switch for homebrew.

 

[Quantumcat]

Or Megaman X 1-8, Legacy 1 and Legacy 2. AFAIK aren't the VC games being offered only available to play for a month, then it is changed the next rotating month, or did they change that in a public statement?

How would that work? Couldn't you disconnect from the net and then change the date in your device and keep playing them forever? If you have to be connected to the net to play them so much for it being a take-anywhere hand-held.

 

[Pleng]

Most people here have two Switches, one for hacking and one for personal use.

Do you have a source to backup this highly unlikely statistic?!

 

[JaRocker]

So, in consideration of the steady developments in the Switch's hacking scene, I wondered what consequences we might have to face when softmodding the console.
Im talking about Nintendo taking action to ban people completely from their Platform e.g. Online Gaming, E-Shop etc.
This hasen't been a problem on the Wii U.
I don't wanna risk a ban, becaue we currently don't know what we can expect from their online service.
I don't wanna miss out their Virtual Console and have to worry that my Switch could be permanently banned from playing online so early in it's life span. (Also regarding SSB5 )

So what do you guys think?
Risk it for a biscuit?
Nintendo doesn't care?
Will you instantly install and use any homebrew and don't give a damn about any coming consequences?
Let me know in the comments below!

Maybe I would have cared about the only if it was going to be free but Nintendo Is going to be changing all that some time this year there online wasn't good to begin with now you'll have to pay for it hmm no thanks I'll stick to offline

 

[MiguelinCrafter]

why?
care about online? dont hack your console(s)

 

[reminon]

How would that work? Couldn't you disconnect from the net and then change the date in your device and keep playing them forever? If you have to be connected to the net to play them so much for it being a take-anywhere hand-held.

Could be similar to psn+ freebie titles, where as if you don't connect to the net ever so often the title becomes locked.

 

[RHOPKINS13]

Well, I think that what's currently released with fusee gelee, shofel2, Linux on Switch and other payloads, it's currently undetectable as long as you're not shorting pin 10 while booted in Horizon.

That being said, I know there are people with 2 Switches, one for homebrew/CFW/piracy, and one for strictly legit titles to play online with. That's a pretty steep price to pay for homebrew though, I think there may be a cheaper solution. I've heard that the eMMC is easily replaceable, and I believe we can already read and write backups to it. So, what if you just got a 2nd eMMC, backed up your current eMMC, and restored the backup to your new eMMC?

At that point, you could have two eMMCs to switch between. One for hax and one for legit stuff. You'd want to leave the hax eMMC in "airplane mode," because I'm pretty sure if your switch gets banned it won't matter which eMMC you're using.

Also, because of e-fuses, upgrading the system on one eMMC may cause the other eMMC to stop working. With homebrew save managers on the "hax" eMMC, you should be able to work around this problem by backing up your stuff, upgrading your "legit" eMMC, re-imaging it to the hax eMMC, and finally re-haxing it and restoring your stuff.

It would make system updates a PITA but I think it's a solution worth looking into. A sure-proof way of running hax on a Switch without getting banned, and without needing a second Switch.

 

[willdunz]

Nintendo multiplayer games don't interest me so I can live with offline only

 

[RHOPKINS13]

Oh yeah, I should clarify. I don't think what has CURRENTLY been released is detectable. Atmosphere, other CFWs, homebrew, cheats, mods, and piracy will most likely lead to banwaves similar to what we've seen on 3DS. Which is why either a separate Switch or a separate eMMC solution as I described above would be advisable.