Milk is bad for you

Deleted User · Feb 13, 2016

LittleFlame said:
What kind of milk do you drink man

radioactive milk

Aurora Wright · Feb 13, 2016

What he did is basically this: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
I think it's useless to keep talking to him

CheeseCake · Feb 13, 2016

Ssssuper said:
I POSTED ABOUT ANIMAL PRODUCTS IN GENERAL. READ THE TOP OF THE POST.

I thought your arguments were on milk? Why are you dragging in unrelated topics now?

Deleted User · Feb 13, 2016

Ssssuper said:
I POSTED ABOUT ANIMAL PRODUCTS IN GENERAL. READ THE TOP OF THE POST.

PLEASE STOP YELLING MY EARS HURT NOW

GameSystem · Feb 13, 2016

Fracture rate has absolutely nothing to do with dairy intake. Did you ever think that for one second those people were drinking milk to up their calcium levels BECAUSE they did things that put them more at risk for broken bones?

LittleFlame · Feb 13, 2016

Ctrl F all the articles look for keywords milk and Lactose i ain't finding shit so far

Ssssuper · Feb 13, 2016

LittleFlame said:
Ctrl F all the articles look for keywords milk and Lactose i ain't finding shit so far

gamefan5 · Feb 13, 2016

GameSystem said:
Fracture rate has absolutely nothing to do with dairy intake. Did you ever think that for one second those people were drinking milk to up their calcium levels BECAUSE they did things that put them more at risk for broken bones?

It was basically a higher intake of milk that increased the risk of having fractures...

You know, that's why we keep telling people not to overeat. It is literally nothing new. Even an abundance of healthy stuff is bad for you.

The Catboy · Feb 13, 2016

Ssssuper said:
I POSTED ABOUT ANIMAL PRODUCTS IN GENERAL. READ THE TOP OF THE POST.

I AM SUPER CEREAL, GUYS!

CheeseCake · Feb 13, 2016

Jekuma said:
This thread has been pretty informative.... Especially because I'm interested in chemicals and bodily functions

The thing with reading studies is to pay careful attention to specific words such as "may" "associated" "correlated" "as likely as", etc.
They're great for grasping the general idea but don't take any claims as a truth.

Conclusions are conclusions, something inferred from the data taken. Not saying the authors are wrong but you will just as likely find a study arguing the opposite using its own set of data

Ssssuper · Feb 13, 2016

Ssssuper said:
The ignorance hurts me, I'll just post studies from now on, you guys don't probably don't even read anything I post.

Here are studies about the bad stuff in animal products, draw tour own conclusions, i wish the best for you all, good night.

Milk fractures and mortality:
http://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g6015
Meat and dairy weight gain:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/96/...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20...
Eggs and cholesterol:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22...
Fish pollutants and diabetes:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cont...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18...

Erectile Dysfunction:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19...
Hormones and Muscle Growth:
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content...
Meat consumption and weight gain:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/40...
Pollutants in animal products:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21...
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/...

The first 3 articles here are about milk and dairy btw.

LittleFlame · Feb 13, 2016

I don't mean to be a bother here but still not finding jackshit
well except for consuming too much is bad well duh

Jacklack3 · Feb 13, 2016

I feel like i should read this with ace attorney cornered music playing in the background with every post would have OBJECTION! in the front of the post.

gamefan5 · Feb 13, 2016

CheeseCake said:
The thing with reading studies is to pay careful attention to specific words such as "may" "associated" "correlated" "as likely as", etc.
They're great for grasping the general idea but don't take any claims as a truth.

Conclusions are conclusions, something inferred from the data taken. Not saying the authors are wrong but you will just as likely find a study arguing the opposite using its own set of data

And yeah in a lot of these, you can find studies contradicting them.
But hey, that's what science is. XD

Jekuma · Feb 13, 2016

CheeseCake said:
The thing with reading studies is to pay careful attention to specific words such as "may" "associated" "correlated" "as likely as", etc.
They're great for grasping the general idea but don't take any claims as a truth.

Conclusions are conclusions, something inferred from the data taken. Not saying the authors are wrong but you will just as likely find a study arguing the opposite using its own set of data

Not talking about the original poster's facts -- I'm talking about everyone else's.

GameSystem · Feb 13, 2016

gamefan5 said:
It was basically a higher intake of milk that increased the risk of having fractures...

You know, that's why we keep telling people not to overeat. It is literally nothing new. Even an abundance of healthy stuff is bad for you.

Forgive me if I'm interpreting this incorrectly, but are you saying that drinking milk will literally cause your bones to break? I mean, aside from drinking so much milk that you gain several hundred pounds and your skeleton can no longer support you, I can't see that as making any sense.

Ssssuper · Feb 13, 2016

Aurora Wright · Feb 13, 2016

He starting copying/pasting some huge Gish Gallop from somewhere else. We're doomed

The Catboy · Feb 13, 2016

You realize the only way milk would harm you, is if you drink stupid amounts of it.

gamefan5 · Feb 13, 2016

GameSystem said:
Forgive me if I'm interpreting this incorrectly, but are you saying that drinking milk will literally cause your bones to break? I mean, aside from drinking so much milk that you gain several hundred pounds and your skeleton can no longer support you, I can't see that as making any sense.

No, it does cause your bones to break. It MIGHT INCREASE THE RISK of your bones breaking due to other effects caused by overconsumption. Note that a glass of milk brings a lot of nutrients to the body at once, so of course having a larger intake of what it recommended can have ill effects and end up doing the opposite of what you expect.

But again, everyone knows this. This is nothing new. The usual "watch your calories and nutrients intake" is what they are verifying basically.

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