Hardware Is it normal for the 128 evo+ to be 138 gb?

Mikemk

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2015
Messages
2,090
Trophies
1
Age
28
XP
3,115
Country
United States
I just realized. Flash memory has over-provisioning. Typically 7%, which would be a total of 136.96. If the card for some reason is using its full capacity instead of over-provisioning (very unlikely), that's bad.
 

migles

All my gbatemp friends are now mods, except for me
Member
Joined
Sep 19, 2013
Messages
8,033
Trophies
0
Location
Earth-chan
XP
5,299
Country
China
Yes, this is normal. Ubuntu displays the SI sizes, and Windows displays the real sizes. Normally, Ubuntu will show it being what it's actually advertised as, but in the rare case the manufacturer doesn't cheat you, it'll show over.

(1024*1024*1024*128) / (1024*1000*1000) ~= 134.

this^
linux\ubunto calculates in and displays MB as Megabytes.. and if you notice it sometimes shows values in MiB (mebibyte) or MB (megabyte)
while shitty windows calls MB to mebibyte

more info about here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
you can use the bottom template to navigate between different measures

Anyway. it sjhould display it as 128 not 138.... test the card anyway to make sure...
 
Last edited by migles,
  • Like
Reactions: OrGoN3

gnmmarechal

Well-Known Member
Member
GBAtemp Patron
Joined
Jul 13, 2014
Messages
6,039
Trophies
2
Age
25
Location
https://gs2012.xyz
Website
gs2012.xyz
XP
5,991
Country
Portugal
Yes, this is normal. Ubuntu displays the SI sizes, and Windows displays the real sizes. Normally, Ubuntu will show it being what it's actually advertised as, but in the rare case the manufacturer doesn't cheat you, it'll show over.

(1024*1024*1024*128) / (1024*1000*1000) ~= 134.
What? Actually, Windows doesn't display the "real capacity". Windows generally calls GiB GB, which is frankly, well, stupid. GiB is base 2, GB is base 10. SI units ARE the standard units.

Samsung would call 1GB to a Samsung card with 10^9 bytes.

If anyway, Ubuntu is using proper units (Ubuntu calls GiB GiB and GB GB).

128GiB = 137.4GB ...

Windows is dumb.
 
Last edited by gnmmarechal,
  • Like
Reactions: DaMan and OrGoN3

Mikemk

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Mar 26, 2015
Messages
2,090
Trophies
1
Age
28
XP
3,115
Country
United States
Ubuntu last time I used it used the middle "standard" (for lack of a better word). 1024 bytes in a kilobyte since drives store in multiples of 512, and 1000 thereafter.
 

Amapola62

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Oct 25, 2015
Messages
967
Trophies
0
Age
36
XP
557
Country
France
Yeah...I have 62Gb in my 64GB...and 14 in my 16Gb card...I think we always lose 2GB...or something....
 

Tomy Sakazaki

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2006
Messages
880
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
812
Country
Brazil
@jimmyleen I'd recommend that you test the card anyway (even if it takes hours to do, let the application do it's thing while you sleep), just to be sure that it's not fake. This in case that you didn't finish the previous test attempt.

@NebulaPiplup @Amapola62 What OP actually found strange is that Ubuntu was showing a "larger than real capacity", but in the end, the "problem" is that Ubuntu uses a size calculation different from other OSes.
 
Last edited by Tomy Sakazaki,

sarkwalvein

There's hope for a Xenosaga port.
Member
Joined
Jun 29, 2007
Messages
8,508
Trophies
2
Age
41
Location
Niedersachsen
XP
11,234
Country
Germany
But the "real" capacity is 128 Gigabytes. That is 128,000,000,000 bytes.
Giga is defined by standards as left shifting 9 decimal digits.
The poor man 70s computer friendly version of left shifting 30 binary digits is the incorrect, imprecise, non standard, only there because of bad legacy, calculation of the value.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gnmmarechal

tbb043

Member
Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2008
Messages
1,754
Trophies
0
XP
1,488
Country
United States
this^
linux\ubunto calculates in and displays MB as Megabytes.. and if you notice it sometimes shows values in MiB (mebibyte) or MB (megabyte)
while shitty windows calls MB to mebibyte

more info about here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
you can use the bottom template to navigate between different measures

Anyway. it sjhould display it as 128 not 138.... test the card anyway to make sure...

What? Actually, Windows doesn't display the "real capacity". Windows generally calls GiB GB, which is frankly, well, stupid. GiB is base 2, GB is base 10. SI units ARE the standard units.

Samsung would call 1GB to a Samsung card with 10^9 bytes.

If anyway, Ubuntu is using proper units (Ubuntu calls GiB GiB and GB GB).

128GiB = 137.4GB ...

Windows is dumb.

MIB and GIB is revisionist history nonsense. Windows is using the terms MB and GB (and KB, etc) as they were defined from the dawn of computing, before sneaky, unscrupulous hard drive manufacturers started using GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes because it artificially inflated the size they could list the drive on the packaging to fool consumers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mikemk

The Real Jdbye

*is birb*
Member
Joined
Mar 17, 2010
Messages
23,293
Trophies
4
Location
Space
XP
13,850
Country
Norway
If you are satisfied with trash be my guest.

Probably works better than the official product :D

In all seriousness, dont buy samshit. Buy either a Toshiba or Sandisk
I'm not sure why you hate on Samsung so much, but their SSDs are proven to be among the best on the market, which says a lot about the quality of their flash memory, and their SD cards have about the same price and performance as SanDisk. I've had no problems with my Samsung Evo card yet.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gnmmarechal

Veho

The man who cried "Ni".
Former Staff
Joined
Apr 4, 2006
Messages
11,383
Trophies
3
Age
42
Location
Zagreb
XP
41,191
Country
Croatia
Windows is dumb.
The poor man 70s computer friendly version of left shifting 30 binary digits is the incorrect, imprecise, non standard, only there because of bad legacy, calculation of the value.
Having units tied to 1024 (or some other power of 2) makes way more sense when describing size in a binary system and a binary address space than some decimal, power of ten version. Forcing a decimal notation on an inherently binary value is silly, and the only reason hard drive manufacturers are so vehemently in favor of it is because it makes their disk look larger than it really is. Which is understandable; everyone wants to make their disk look bigger :tpi: But it's horribly impractical, non-intuitive and just plain silly to use it with binary storage.
 

gnmmarechal

Well-Known Member
Member
GBAtemp Patron
Joined
Jul 13, 2014
Messages
6,039
Trophies
2
Age
25
Location
https://gs2012.xyz
Website
gs2012.xyz
XP
5,991
Country
Portugal
MIB and GIB is revisionist history nonsense. Windows is using the terms MB and GB (and KB, etc) as they were defined from the dawn of computing, before sneaky, unscrupulous hard drive manufacturers started using GB as 1,000,000,000 bytes because it artificially inflated the size they could list the drive on the packaging to fool consumers.
Ridiculous. A standard's a standard. If a KB was initially 1024B, it was wrong right from the start, MiB and GiB make much more sense. Differentiate it from base 10... the moment the byte was defined, kilobyte was automatically defined as 10^3 bytes. That's just how it works. If anything, those who said 1 K = 1024 are the ones wrong. And why is MiB or KiB nonsense? It makes much more sense, considering it actually is aimed at base 2.

To correct a mistake (calling K --> 2^10 , when it is 10^3) is not "revisionist history nonsense".
 
Last edited by gnmmarechal,

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum

General chit-chat
Help Users
    K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386617469929?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2T8UwYf_Qse&...