Question How will gbatemp handle links to shops that sell pirated firmware

[notimp]

So TX' "firmware SKU" is literally pirated Nintendo firmware, modified with its own DRM layer, then sold in stores. Which are linked in here.

Is the "I'm just buying the license for that firmware in those stores" argument enough to freely link to stores selling pirated firmware?

You know - details...

Should we report those links. Should we pretend, they arent what they are?

Should we only ignore those of them that allow paypal?

 

[EclipseSin]

That was just an attempt to stop you from making circles with other users information and facts, which you seem to disregard. See circles, they don't have a beginning or end, and repeating the process expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

Anyway, I've explained. Later gbaers, TV time

 

[TheCyberQuake]

I mistakingly thought when you told everyone to not pay attention anymore - that that would include you. I'm sorry. You can win that one.

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This thread should not be locked up - I remain, that its important for people to know that:

- The word "operating system" in on TX's product pages is a false marketing claim - which they are happy to admit to, so they can get out of the accusation of actually selling pirated firmware.

- Also - it is important to know, that TX's solution will blow efuses, which has further implications down the road. This was the first thread this information surfaced in - and its an important one.

I will not pump this thread from now on, as the situation was "cleared up" - but it should remain open imho.

You seem to have missed my explanation where I said blowing fuses literally doesn't matter with the exploit being used.
It's the efuses that naturally burn for downgrade protection.

 

[MHDestination]

- Also - it is important to know, that with TX's solution you will have to update to the most recent firmware on your switch, to play recent games - and that it will blow efuses, which has further implications down the road. This was the first thread this information surfaced in - and its an important one.

It blows fuses just like any official update (without using TX) does.
Now what's the problem?

 

[notimp]

It blows fuses just like any official update (without using TX) does.
Now what's the problem?

- You have to do a new nand backup every time you update the console. Or risk a brick.
- You cant downgrade.
- You are actively working against your chances of getting a "true software based solution eventually" (still has some back and forth with the "unknown" if you have to use the dongle "just once" or "more than once").
- You will/edit: might run into issues with homebrew, as HB would want to standardize on a certain firmware version.

You'll loose online - or CFW capabilities, every time Nintendo pushes a new update, for the duration until TX' can patch it "in memory".

Which might be an impossible task going forward, depending on Nintendos actions. (They could obfuscate, and randomize memory positions, and...)

If you mistakingly update your official firmware - you can be locked out of running TX's firmware (patches).

For starters.

You know - details.

 

[MHDestination]

You have to do a new nand backup every time you update the console. Or risk a brick.
You cant downgrade.
You are actively working against your chances of getting a "true software based solution eventually" (still has some back and forth with the "unknown" if you have to use the dongle "just once" or "more than once").
You will run into issues with homebrew, as HB would want to standardize on a certain firmware number.

You'll loose online - or CFW capabilities, every time Nintendo pushes a new update, for the duration until TX' can patch it "in memory"

Which might be an impossible task going forward (depending on Nintendos actions).

If you mistakingly update your official firmware - you can be locked out of running TX's firmware (patches).

For starters.

You know - details.

Again .. what's the problem?

CFW usage always brings a high risk of ban. Deal with that.

We can be quite sure that important homebrews will be updated to support the latest firmware.

If you don't accept the drawbacks then keep your system clean, avoid homebrews
and stay with what nintendo offers you.

AND: You can downgrade!!! CFW bypasses efuse checks
But i don't see that there'll be a need to do so...

 

[notimp]

Put this information out in the open.

Yesterday and today - all this forum was about spreading preorder links. And people sharing their "order confirmation slips" with others to assure, them that they would be first. They had no information on what they'd actually bought - and no chance of getting it - despite some vague forum claims on other platforms.

I thought that this was awful.

Inform people what they are buying, and what the limitations are. Basically.

I'll not press further - release statements take time - but please, tell people what they are buying.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

- You have to do a new nand backup every time you update the console. Or risk a brick.
- You cant downgrade.
- You are actively working against your chances of getting a "true software based solution eventually" (still has some back and forth with the "unknown" if you have to use the dongle "just once" or "more than once").
- You will/edit: might run into issues with homebrew, as HB would want to standardize on a certain firmware version.

You'll loose online - or CFW capabilities, every time Nintendo pushes a new update, for the duration until TX' can patch it "in memory".

Which might be an impossible task going forward, depending on Nintendos actions. (They could obfuscate, and randomize memory positions, and...)

If you mistakingly update your official firmware - you can be locked out of running TX's firmware (patches).

For starters.

You know - details.

I just can't deal with this anymore.
You lack a fundamental basic understanding of how the switch, it's OS, general cfw, and the overall switch homebrew scene operate.
You desperately need to educate yourself on these topics before continuing to make claims.
TX doesn't care about software only methods, they don't make money from those.
With these kinds of exploits, no one would need to downgrade anyway.
No you won't lose online from updating, but you may lose cfw fun temporarily. It was the same for 3ds, and will be the same for atmosphere. That's just the nature of cfw.
No homebrew does not want to standardize to one firmware, as seen by support slowly being added for all firmwares in libnx and hbl. I can run checkpoint for save backup/restore right now on 5.0.2

 

[notimp]

AND: You can downgrade!!! CFW bypasses efuse checks
But i don't see that there'll be a need to do so...

What CFW? The one that TX isn't providing, since the only use Nintendos "firmware delivery" system - and then patch the most current firmware in memory?

Or is this a "theoretically they could" - and maybe someone will release something eventually...? Because currently - with blown efuses, downgrades are impossible.

 

[ChaosInJapan]

I just can't deal with this anymore.
You lack a fundamental basic understanding of how the switch, it's OS, general cfw, and the overall switch homebrew scene operate.
You desperately need to educate yourself on these topics before continuing to make claims.
TX doesn't care about software only methods, they don't make money from those.
With these kinds of exploits, no one would need to downgrade anyway.
No you won't lose online from updating, but you may lose cfw fun temporarily. It was the same for 3ds, and will be the same for atmosphere. That's just the nature of cfw.
No homebrew does not want to standardize to one firmware, as seen by support slowly being added for all firmwares in libnx and hbl. I can run checkpoint for save backup/restore right now on 5.0.2

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I'm out.

 

[MHDestination]

What CFW? The one that XT isn't providing, since the only use Nintendos "firmware delivery" system - and then patch that in memory?

Or is this a "theoretically they could" - and maybe someone will release something eventually...? Because currently - with blown efuses, downgrades are impossible.

By god... stop trolling!!!!

The customfirmware that get's created by the patcher in your devices memory!

NO!! Downgrades are already possible. You can already boot a lower nand backup using hekate.

Damn... I'm out too. You really want to convince everyone that you are an idiot? Don't you?

 

[notimp]

By god... stop trolling!!!!

The customfirmware that get's created by the patcher on your device!

Damn... I'm out too. You really what to convince everyone that you are an idiot? Don't you?

How will you get to a lower firmware than is on your system that way?

Also the firmware gets "created"? I though those were just memory patches on whatever version is on your Switches emmc?

Not trolling, actual questions.

(Trolling would be: So you are selling a piracy firmware creation tool as part of the software package after all? )

 

[MHDestination]

How will you get to a lower firmware than is on your system that way?

Also the firmware gets "created" - I though those were just memory patches on whatever version is on your Switches emmc?

Not trolling, actual questions.

Edited my prior post to clarify...

But now: Bye!

 

[TheCyberQuake]

My spidey-senses tingle. I sense the mods coming to shut this down

 

[notimp]

To clarify - MHDestination just edited his posting to read the CFW that gets created in memory AND on your device.

So now all of a sudden we have CFW thats stored on emmc. And Nintendo is supposed to overlook that?

High risk of bans. Period.

Once banned, you dont get a current firmware anymore - because their "update channel" is Nintendos - as far as we've just learned.

Now they are leaving ship.

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My spidey-senses tingle. I sense the mods coming to shut this down

Please don't shut this down, we try to explore, what TX' is actually selling here.

People are buying their solution sight unseen, and without knowing the details.

 

[Minox]

I am locking this topic for now. At this point Team Xecutor's product isn't even available, is it? So in other words there is no telling what exact method they used to deliver their modifications whether it be a full firmware dump or just applied patches.

If it turns out that they distribute the whole modified firmware then we might have to ban links to it, but for now there is no telling so please wait. Feel free to make another topic when evidence is available which can be used to prove on or the other.